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Senate GOP still heartless

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I can not for the life of me understand why people in the US hate the United Nations so much.
Those who "hate" the UN are generally not willing to abdicate any rights to any group not outlined in the US constitution. Federal government has certain enumerated rights. All other rights not enumerated as belonging to the federal gov belong to the individual states. The rights ceded to the UN come from either the Federal government's rights, which would go against the constitution, or the individual states, where the federal government should stay out of.
 
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A bad disabled-rights treaty | The Daily Caller

An editorial urging ratification in the Washington Post takes much the same line, claiming the measure “would not require the United States to change its laws” and blaming opposition on the “far right.” Sure, let’s sign away our national sovereignty on questions of how best to accommodate the disabled. What could go wrong?
Plenty, actually. Anyone who claims the CRPD merely codifies existing U.S. disabled-rights law, as distinct from prescribing major new extensions of it, cannot have read its text with care. Beyond that, the treaty would if taken seriously bid to wrest from the control of elected U.S. lawmakers the future course of many important domestic policy issues, from the structuring of Social Security disability benefits to the question of whether prospective law and medical students should have a right to extra time in taking exams to accommodate their learning disabilities. When it’s pointed out that the convention by its own text requires radical revamping of many existing policies, advocates respond with the peculiar argument that, after all, we shouldn’t take its provisions all that seriously; other ratifying countries are already blithely ignoring their obligations under it, and the United States will be free to do so too, especially as the mechanisms for enforcing it are (for the moment) fairly toothless. It is at best a cynical argument that deserves senators’ rejection.


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Will states and localities have to change their laws, or just the federal government? Glad you asked: Article 4, Section 5 says “The provisions of the present Convention shall extend to all parts of federal states without any limitations or exceptions.”



 
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The part I am not getting is why it is better to have the appearance of caring without any action showing that you do, than to have the action showing that you care without signing a puff piece.

We have the ADA. It's enforceable. We can modify it to improve it as needed to actually improve the rights of the disabled. We don't need this treaty for anything.

Yet countries who, by their actions, show they don't care about the disabled, sign on to the treaty and we expect people to think they are better than us for doing so.

I think that people are putting more stock into words than actions. I think I can see where the problem really lies here.
 
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The part I am not getting is why it is better to have the appearance of caring without any action showing that you do, than to have the action showing that you care without signing a puff piece.

We have the ADA. It's enforceable. We can modify it to improve it as needed to actually improve the rights of the disabled. We don't need this treaty for anything.

Yet countries who, by their actions, show they don't care about the disabled, sign on to the treaty and we expect people to think they are better than us for doing so.

I think that people are putting more stock into words than actions. I think I can see where the problem really lies here.


Actually, if that link I provided is correct, it actually does require action and puts our state governments at the mercy of U.N. officials.

So, really, the Senate Democrats were either too lazy to read it, too dumb to understand it, or too treasonous to care.
 
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Senate rejects treaty to protect disabled around the world - The Washington Post





How sad. Nations like Iran and China are agreeing to raise their standards to our levels or higher, and the GOP in the Senate cannot even give it enough support, even though their party was the one that negotiated it.

One more reason the GOP is going to be flushed down the toilet soon.

To me, the treaty seems no different than other treaties signed to signify agreement on combatting global problems like Human/Sex trafficking and ensure their governments do everything possible to either severely curtain things or end it altogether.....and other treaties as well such as stoping things like child slavery and genocides.
 
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So, really, the Senate Democrats were either too lazy to read it, too dumb to understand it, or too treasonous to care.

...and now it's treasonous!

It would be funny if not for the fact that we have 38 Senators who bow down to this fear baiting verbiage. It's really sad the U.S. Senate has reduced itself to this.

....and you can add the following to your treason list:

+ Bob Dole
+ John McCain
+ Richard Lugar
+ Dick Thornburg
 
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...and now it's treasonous!

It would be funny if not for the fact that we have 38 Senators who bow down to this fear baiting verbiage. It's really sad the U.S. Senate has reduced itself to this.

....and you can add the following to your treason list:

+ Bob Dole
+ John McCain
+ Richard Lugar
+ Dick Thornburg

Actually, I listed the options in probability. I am a big believer of Hanlon's Razor.
 
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Actually, if that link I provided is correct, it actually does require action and puts our state governments at the mercy of U.N. officials.

So, really, the Senate Democrats were either too lazy to read it, too dumb to understand it, or too treasonous to care.

I was basing that statement on the argument that it requires no changes to the US.
 
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