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Fyi- there is no Statute of Limitations for murder, releasing the accused could legally mean the accused could be prosecuted in the future.
 
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I asked you a question, I never said my question was related to your response.

Please be so kind as not to quote what you aren't replying to. It only creates confusion.

My answer is that I don't really care about the question or what its answer is. Yeshua went willingly to his death. It was part of God's plan for the Romans to execute him.
 
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Fyi- there is no Statute of Limitations for murder, releasing the accused could legally mean the accused could be prosecuted in the future.
I was only commenting on the alleged dispute between Jesus and the Pharisees. The "trial" holds little interest to me as he was sentenced and executed under the Roman authority.
 
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No, I don't think Trump sits in Moses seat.
And Yeshua said the Scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses seat.
 
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A teacher should model good behavior but when one is teaching the Word of the Lord, the words are pretty important.
 
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I read an article about that recently - they were thinking Yeshua was a Pharisee and made mention of all the debating that was going on in those days. They said sometimes it wasn't so much that the people were in opposition, but that instead they were searching for the truth.
 
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Yes. One of my favorite books is by an Orthodox Rabbi named Harvey Falk -- "Jesus the Pharisee." He documents that Yeshua was a Pharisee of the school of Hillel and got into the typical arguments with the Pharisees of the school of Shammai, who ran the Sanhedrin during that time in history.

I think if Christians could just understand how the halakhic debates ran at that time, it would give them so much more context for the gospels. But unfortunately, the typical Christian has been taught that they should be able to just open up the Bible and read it and the Holy Spirit will reveal its truth to them, no studying needed.
 
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I might have to check that out. Thank you!
 
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I have a book written by a Jewish academic that makes a convincing argument that Yeshua was close to the Essenes, though not actually one.
 
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The problem is that we have two millennia of misunderstood texts, so that people now believe that the original, erroneous understandings are the only truth, and that the truth we now teach them is a lie.

Years of leading Bible study groups and preaching, and working with students, always seemed to come back to this problem. Interestingly, when I taught or preached on the Tanach (in a Church setting) it was accepted with no question - probably because 90% of Christians do not read much of the Tanach and, where the Tanach is used to teach Christian truths, the argument against it is that it is the 'Old' testament and o doesn't apply to us today (except of course certain favourite parts, usually depending on the time of the year).
 
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Where are you getting this stuff? I guess because anyone says anything that makes everything true? You know what happened 2000 years ago because you were never there? Those who were actually there wrote about what occurred.
 
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I have a book written by a Jewish academic that makes a convincing argument that Yeshua was close to the Essenes, though not actually one.
Because the person who wrote that book was alive 2000 years ago and personally witnessed everything ?
 
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Where are you getting this stuff? I guess because anyone says anything that makes everything true? You know what happened 2000 years ago because you were never there? Those who were actually there wrote about what occurred.

In the translations some errors do occur in the texts, as is clear to anyone who studies scripture, but the prime problem is the exegesis by ministers and others in relation to the texts we have. How do you think Replacement Theology started, for example?
 
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You are wrong! There are no errors in scripture. You agree with "replacement theology" when you claim there are errors and then replace what is clearly written in scripture with your own ideas that are not written. It is arrogant to think everyone or anyone who studies scripture must agree with you, I study Torah and I do not agree with you.
 
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Calm down, for goodness sake! Replacent theology goes back to Martin Luther, but more nearer our time it was taught in theological colleges as a clear Biblical Truth, and continues to be taught in some Theological Colleges to this day! This is NOT Biblical truth!

You are greatly mistaken, or you are being abusive, in accusing me of agreeing with Replacement Theology - if the latter, please cease. I have fought against RT for over 20 years!

Millions of people do not agree with me, or you, or possibly anyone else on these fora - so what is the problem? Have you read 1 Corinthians 11:19, yet?

Can you explain the discrepancy between Luke and Paul regarding the events following on from the Damascus Road? Can you tell me who Barabbas was? Can you tell me which is correct in 1 Samuel 6:19 - 70 men, or 50,000? Can you explain two different sets of 10 commandments between Exodus and Deuteronomy? Just a few that come to mind without trying too hard!

It is bedtime here. Night nights
 
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I have checked, and cannot see quite where I have insisted you must agree with me, or that anyone else should have to agree with me. When you have have calmed down, would you please be kind enough to find the relevant post where I insisted that you, or anyone else on these fora, must agree with me on anything?
 
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