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Seals
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We are now experiencing the 7 last plagues. The Euphrates was dry on 9/11 when the first shot of the Battle of Ar Mageddon was fired.
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Why is it so hard for people to get it through their skulls that the individual chapters of Revelation (most of which were not even accurately separated by the editors who applied the breaks and verse numbers) ain't intended to reflect a chronological order by their mere placement?
Job is virtually undisputedly considered to be the oldest "book" of the bible... and yet we find it installed in a much later postition within the OT?
Job is virtually undisputedly considered to be the oldest "book" of the bible... and yet we find it installed in a much later postition within the OT?
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vinsight4u,
I think you might be trying too hard to decipher details which do not provide any information regarding timing.
Here's an easy example of how to view Revelation's timeline (disregard ALL the dates: I plugged them in for illustration only, and I don't want you to think they are factual--they are used merely to show the sequencing):
Let's just say the time period leading to the End of the Age (Second Coming of Jesus)is 2,000 years--from 33AD until 2,033AD.
Let's also just say that the 1st Seal is opened in 100AD. The Seals continue opening, with no specific intervals, until the 6th Seal is opened in 2,033AD.
Now, let's say the 1st Trumpet sounds (which factually does happen between the 4th and 5th Seal) in 1,900AD. The Trumpets continue to sound, with no specific intervals, until the 7th Trumpet sounds in 2,033AD
An finally, let's say the 1st Vial is poured out (which factually does happen between the 6th and 7th Trumpet) in 2,030AD These Vials continue to be poured, with no specific intervals, until the 7th Vial is poured out in 2,033AD.
That's the simplified approach, which explains how the chapters of Revelation are not compiled in a chronological order.
* The Seals are circumstances that set up conditions over the broad timeline of 2,000 years.
* The Trumpets are specific events announcing that the Wrath of God is drawing close.
* The Vials are the final pouring out of God's Wrath.
The 6th Seal, 7th Trumpet, and 7th Vial are the exact same event, which occurs in 2,033AD... so, one cannot follow another in sequence--they all occur at the same time. In other words, the Seals don't all happen first, followed by all the Trumpets... and finally, by all the Vials.
Once the fact of the 6th Seal, 7th Trumpet and 7th Vial all being the same event is understood, the timing becomes very simple. And the other aspects of Revelation can then be taken as holy details elaborating the revealing of Jesus Christ, rather than merely clues in some intricate mystery novel.
That's the key--the 6th Seal, 7th Trumpet, and 7th Vial MUST be understood as the same event. Don't take my word for it; check them out. Keep in mind... great hailstones weighing a talent each.
Voila! God did not intend for ALL of us to beat our heads against a "wailing wall". In Daniel, we can read...
Da 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
I've been instructed by others who did beat their heads; and now, you are instructed by one who has not had to beat his head wuite so hard as they. Learn... and instruct.
I think you might be trying too hard to decipher details which do not provide any information regarding timing.
Here's an easy example of how to view Revelation's timeline (disregard ALL the dates: I plugged them in for illustration only, and I don't want you to think they are factual--they are used merely to show the sequencing):
Let's just say the time period leading to the End of the Age (Second Coming of Jesus)is 2,000 years--from 33AD until 2,033AD.
Let's also just say that the 1st Seal is opened in 100AD. The Seals continue opening, with no specific intervals, until the 6th Seal is opened in 2,033AD.
Now, let's say the 1st Trumpet sounds (which factually does happen between the 4th and 5th Seal) in 1,900AD. The Trumpets continue to sound, with no specific intervals, until the 7th Trumpet sounds in 2,033AD
An finally, let's say the 1st Vial is poured out (which factually does happen between the 6th and 7th Trumpet) in 2,030AD These Vials continue to be poured, with no specific intervals, until the 7th Vial is poured out in 2,033AD.
That's the simplified approach, which explains how the chapters of Revelation are not compiled in a chronological order.
* The Seals are circumstances that set up conditions over the broad timeline of 2,000 years.
* The Trumpets are specific events announcing that the Wrath of God is drawing close.
* The Vials are the final pouring out of God's Wrath.
The 6th Seal, 7th Trumpet, and 7th Vial are the exact same event, which occurs in 2,033AD... so, one cannot follow another in sequence--they all occur at the same time. In other words, the Seals don't all happen first, followed by all the Trumpets... and finally, by all the Vials.
Once the fact of the 6th Seal, 7th Trumpet and 7th Vial all being the same event is understood, the timing becomes very simple. And the other aspects of Revelation can then be taken as holy details elaborating the revealing of Jesus Christ, rather than merely clues in some intricate mystery novel.
That's the key--the 6th Seal, 7th Trumpet, and 7th Vial MUST be understood as the same event. Don't take my word for it; check them out. Keep in mind... great hailstones weighing a talent each.
Voila! God did not intend for ALL of us to beat our heads against a "wailing wall". In Daniel, we can read...
Da 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
I've been instructed by others who did beat their heads; and now, you are instructed by one who has not had to beat his head wuite so hard as they. Learn... and instruct.
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Correction:
Last line--"...his head wuite so hard..." should read "...his head quite so hard..."
Last line--"...his head wuite so hard..." should read "...his head quite so hard..."
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zeke37,
The Seals on the Scroll are not used for the sealing of the 144,000. The Scroll Seals could be considered as the "wax seals" used through the ages as a means of indicating authenticity. The was was melted onto the document and then an indignia, such as found on an imperial ring, would be use to transfer the insignia (emblem of the emperor) to the wax. This would verify who sealed the document. In the case of the Scroll, it would be God who sealed it. And Jesus was the only one (having suffered the temptations of all men) worthy to break those seals and open it.
I can't tell you exactly what the "sealing" is for the 144,00... but my guess is it's the Holy Spirit. I can tell you the sealing is not the same as the "Seals" on that Scroll.
The Seals on the Scroll are not used for the sealing of the 144,000. The Scroll Seals could be considered as the "wax seals" used through the ages as a means of indicating authenticity. The was was melted onto the document and then an indignia, such as found on an imperial ring, would be use to transfer the insignia (emblem of the emperor) to the wax. This would verify who sealed the document. In the case of the Scroll, it would be God who sealed it. And Jesus was the only one (having suffered the temptations of all men) worthy to break those seals and open it.
I can't tell you exactly what the "sealing" is for the 144,00... but my guess is it's the Holy Spirit. I can tell you the sealing is not the same as the "Seals" on that Scroll.
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zeke37
IMO...
What was in the Seals that were opened? information....the truth....basically like Mat24/Mar13
what is sealed into ones mind? information....the truth....
there is a great deception coming....being a believer in Jesus is not what will save you from being seduced and turned into a harlot...
the truth of who is who and Who is Who, will ave you, keep you from temptation...
what is sealed into ones mind? information....the truth....
there is a great deception coming....being a believer in Jesus is not what will save you from being seduced and turned into a harlot...
the truth of who is who and Who is Who, will ave you, keep you from temptation...
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vinsight4u,
Please don't think I am attacking your sincerity. I'm merely pointing out certain things that MOST people haven't thought about--and likely never will. I'll let you in on a little secret: I spent most of my life refusing to be baptized (in water) because John the Baptist said, 'surely I baptize with water; but He who comes after me shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire.'
In fact, I applied my, and countless others, misinterpretation of John's meaning. The true meaning can be further understood by hearing what Jesus said; 'Except a man be born of WATER AND of the Spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God.'
The Apostles baptized with water--every single time... in the name of "Jesus". John baptized unto repentance, only. Jesus... or rather His Apostles, baptized into the death and burial of Christ for the remission of sins (imputed righteousness), and Jesus then gives the gift of the Holy Spirit; the Comforter; Himself... which is the power of His resurrection. This is why Paul had certain disciples re-baptized:
Ac 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto Johns baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And all those years I went about being a "Christian" who was not going to enter the Kingdom of God. Funny how things come to pass for so many different reasons (though I suspect they are all to impress upon us the Grace of God); ain't it? Seems that when we rely on the teachings of man, rather than on the teachings of the Holy Spirit, through the word of God... we end up with flawed teachings.
The problem with the transition from Chapter 7 to 8--just as in a number of other places--is perhaps that the divisions, which were made by the editors and others who "print" the Bible, apply that break improperly?. This occurs in other places as well. Did God screw up? No--more likely people screwed up. Or perhaps this is exactly how God wanted His word printed... to make sure that the understanding would not come to those who shouldn't understand?...
I've often wondered if this might be the verse that reveals that fact:
2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Or this one:
Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
It's the same idea behind why Jesus taught in "parables":
Mr 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
The following example gives a clearer idea of what I mean about the divisions...
Re 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
18 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
Re 8:1 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
Does that seem to make more sense--other than for the issue of the succession of trumpets following seals?
In the case of Revelation 6, when the 6th Seal is opened... this is a depiction of the "great day of His wrath". If the day of His wrath happens under the 6th Seal, how is it the seven Vials (which is the wrath of God filled up) are not supposed to happen until AFTER the 7th Seal is opened???
This is why it is CRITICAL to understand that the timing of events is NOT tied to chapter breaks or even the succession of chapters to each other.
The 6th Seal, 7th Trumpet, and 7th Vial are ONE and the SAME event. (You can study these individually and you will see they are not different events in time or succeeding from one group to another.)
In most cases in Revelation (this particularly applies to why many people associate the timing of events as being tied to the succession of chapters), when you read the words, "and I saw" or "after this I beheld", this generally indicates a different set of circumstances (or another scene, if you will.) If the circumstances (scenes) are different, perhaps the timing is different, too?
You might think of Revelation as a grouping of dozens of separate scenes in the same movie... sorta like flipping channels on a TV where ALL channels are playing the same movie... they just didn't all start running at the same time. You can flip from one channel, where the movie is 30 minutes in... to another channel, where the movie is 57 minutes in... and then to another, where the movie is 13 minutes in. All the same movie... but the different scenes on different channels are not in succession.
This is also part of the reason why people have the idea that the church gets beamed out before the Tribulation. The fact that John saw the souls of saints at the 5th seal, and then those who came out of great tribulation under the 6th seal... shows there must be something unseen regarding the timing. Why didn't the ones who came out from great tribulation appear under the 5th Seal? After all, the 6th Seal is the great day of His wrath: right? But we still have all those trumpets and vials yet to go??
Babylon being punished--double? That's just God's way of making sure we know how He feels about "man-made religion". I doubt that God's wrath needs any refilling. When you've been wrathed by God, even once, I don't think there's much left in need of any re-wrathing.
Please don't think I am attacking your sincerity. I'm merely pointing out certain things that MOST people haven't thought about--and likely never will. I'll let you in on a little secret: I spent most of my life refusing to be baptized (in water) because John the Baptist said, 'surely I baptize with water; but He who comes after me shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire.'
In fact, I applied my, and countless others, misinterpretation of John's meaning. The true meaning can be further understood by hearing what Jesus said; 'Except a man be born of WATER AND of the Spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God.'
The Apostles baptized with water--every single time... in the name of "Jesus". John baptized unto repentance, only. Jesus... or rather His Apostles, baptized into the death and burial of Christ for the remission of sins (imputed righteousness), and Jesus then gives the gift of the Holy Spirit; the Comforter; Himself... which is the power of His resurrection. This is why Paul had certain disciples re-baptized:
Ac 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto Johns baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And all those years I went about being a "Christian" who was not going to enter the Kingdom of God. Funny how things come to pass for so many different reasons (though I suspect they are all to impress upon us the Grace of God); ain't it? Seems that when we rely on the teachings of man, rather than on the teachings of the Holy Spirit, through the word of God... we end up with flawed teachings.
The problem with the transition from Chapter 7 to 8--just as in a number of other places--is perhaps that the divisions, which were made by the editors and others who "print" the Bible, apply that break improperly?. This occurs in other places as well. Did God screw up? No--more likely people screwed up. Or perhaps this is exactly how God wanted His word printed... to make sure that the understanding would not come to those who shouldn't understand?...
I've often wondered if this might be the verse that reveals that fact:
2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Or this one:
Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
It's the same idea behind why Jesus taught in "parables":
Mr 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
The following example gives a clearer idea of what I mean about the divisions...
Re 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
18 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
Re 8:1 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
Does that seem to make more sense--other than for the issue of the succession of trumpets following seals?
In the case of Revelation 6, when the 6th Seal is opened... this is a depiction of the "great day of His wrath". If the day of His wrath happens under the 6th Seal, how is it the seven Vials (which is the wrath of God filled up) are not supposed to happen until AFTER the 7th Seal is opened???
This is why it is CRITICAL to understand that the timing of events is NOT tied to chapter breaks or even the succession of chapters to each other.
The 6th Seal, 7th Trumpet, and 7th Vial are ONE and the SAME event. (You can study these individually and you will see they are not different events in time or succeeding from one group to another.)
In most cases in Revelation (this particularly applies to why many people associate the timing of events as being tied to the succession of chapters), when you read the words, "and I saw" or "after this I beheld", this generally indicates a different set of circumstances (or another scene, if you will.) If the circumstances (scenes) are different, perhaps the timing is different, too?
You might think of Revelation as a grouping of dozens of separate scenes in the same movie... sorta like flipping channels on a TV where ALL channels are playing the same movie... they just didn't all start running at the same time. You can flip from one channel, where the movie is 30 minutes in... to another channel, where the movie is 57 minutes in... and then to another, where the movie is 13 minutes in. All the same movie... but the different scenes on different channels are not in succession.
This is also part of the reason why people have the idea that the church gets beamed out before the Tribulation. The fact that John saw the souls of saints at the 5th seal, and then those who came out of great tribulation under the 6th seal... shows there must be something unseen regarding the timing. Why didn't the ones who came out from great tribulation appear under the 5th Seal? After all, the 6th Seal is the great day of His wrath: right? But we still have all those trumpets and vials yet to go??
Babylon being punished--double? That's just God's way of making sure we know how He feels about "man-made religion". I doubt that God's wrath needs any refilling. When you've been wrathed by God, even once, I don't think there's much left in need of any re-wrathing.
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As you wish, vinsight4u. I'm not here to argue interpretations of scripture. I am simply pointing out, things are not what they appear to be. Hopefully to the benefit of some.
John was merely recording what he was supposed to record. He was acting as a dictation machine; just as when Daniel asked what the visions meant, he was told to go his way--the visions were closed up and sealed until the end.
Don't try too hard to attach any timing significance to one angel vs another angel.... or what chapter and verse it is that John talked to them or vice versa.
I can tell you this--the 6th trumpet war is about to sound. (But, they say... the SEALS have to be opened first!!! --actually, four have been; and so have 5 Trumpets sounded...) It may be 6 months; 2 years; maybe as many as 5 years away. But this will be the 6th trumpet. When it happens, and 1/3 of mankind lay dead, do not mistake it for some act of the 2nd horseman. He has vey little to do with it.
If I were to tell you that in WWI, they had a strategic plan called the scorched earth policy. This is where they burnt everything so that if they had to retreat, they would leave nothing for the enemy. Would you wonder if that fit with "...the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up"? Would it make more sense if I told you that there was "hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth", first? Maybe John just didn't quite know how to describe mortars and aerial bombs?
If I were to tell you that there were 105,127 ships involved in WWII, and that 36,387 of them (1/3) were either sunk or destroyed... what would you think? And if you were John and had never seen a nuclear explosion, how would you descibe Hiroshima or Nagasaki? Might you not say...."as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea"? After all Japan is an island sitting in the sea, and them mushroom clouds are pretty impresive with all the lightning and fire... and mountainous appearance.
If I told you that the Ukranian translation of the Englsih word, mugwort, is "chornobyl"--or "Chernobyl", how would you feel about that? How would you feel when I told you that mugwort's more common English name is... Wormwood?
Don't mistake that 6th Trumpet war for Armageddon... which the vast majority of "Christians" will do... because they do not understand the timing. And when the false prophet convinces everyone that the "anti-Christ" is really Jesus (incommunicado)... and that he had to return in secret to protect his "dudes" from the "evil flase-christians"--don't mistake that for the real Christ, because that false prophet says that the "Book" got screwed up by the "evil ones" and they made up "lies" about him coming in the clouds just to throw off the "real Christians". (Of course... if it were possible, even the elect would be deceived... if it were possible.)
Very shortly after the end of that 6th Trumpet war begins, and the world barely starts to recover, there will be an agreement to allow Israel to share the Temple Mount. This is the start of the final seven years... but the church will still be here, waiting to get beamed up.
3.5 years after that agreement (confirmation of the covenant -- Abrahamic), after the Temple has been rebuilt, the "anti-Christ" will sit in the temple and declare himself God... and the Church will still be here, waiting to get beamed up. And the Tribulation will have started.
Since, by that time, the 6th Trumpet will have long since sounded--that means there ain't any more trumpets to go until the final 7th one... when Christ returns. But there are still 7 Vials to go... and the church will still be here, waiting to get beamed up instead of preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom. And all because they didn't understand the timing.
I've heard this verse a thousand times. Sounds good; eh?...
Ho 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:...
The problem is no one ever completes the verse:
...because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
It's not that the knowledge isn't available... the problem is it's rejected. Pride goeth before a fall. You can take it from me--I KNOW first hand. I've been there and done that.
When I said that time was growing short, that's exactly what I meant. And these are the words of Jesus:
Joh 14:29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
John was merely recording what he was supposed to record. He was acting as a dictation machine; just as when Daniel asked what the visions meant, he was told to go his way--the visions were closed up and sealed until the end.
Don't try too hard to attach any timing significance to one angel vs another angel.... or what chapter and verse it is that John talked to them or vice versa.
I can tell you this--the 6th trumpet war is about to sound. (But, they say... the SEALS have to be opened first!!! --actually, four have been; and so have 5 Trumpets sounded...) It may be 6 months; 2 years; maybe as many as 5 years away. But this will be the 6th trumpet. When it happens, and 1/3 of mankind lay dead, do not mistake it for some act of the 2nd horseman. He has vey little to do with it.
If I were to tell you that in WWI, they had a strategic plan called the scorched earth policy. This is where they burnt everything so that if they had to retreat, they would leave nothing for the enemy. Would you wonder if that fit with "...the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up"? Would it make more sense if I told you that there was "hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth", first? Maybe John just didn't quite know how to describe mortars and aerial bombs?
If I were to tell you that there were 105,127 ships involved in WWII, and that 36,387 of them (1/3) were either sunk or destroyed... what would you think? And if you were John and had never seen a nuclear explosion, how would you descibe Hiroshima or Nagasaki? Might you not say...."as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea"? After all Japan is an island sitting in the sea, and them mushroom clouds are pretty impresive with all the lightning and fire... and mountainous appearance.
If I told you that the Ukranian translation of the Englsih word, mugwort, is "chornobyl"--or "Chernobyl", how would you feel about that? How would you feel when I told you that mugwort's more common English name is... Wormwood?
Don't mistake that 6th Trumpet war for Armageddon... which the vast majority of "Christians" will do... because they do not understand the timing. And when the false prophet convinces everyone that the "anti-Christ" is really Jesus (incommunicado)... and that he had to return in secret to protect his "dudes" from the "evil flase-christians"--don't mistake that for the real Christ, because that false prophet says that the "Book" got screwed up by the "evil ones" and they made up "lies" about him coming in the clouds just to throw off the "real Christians". (Of course... if it were possible, even the elect would be deceived... if it were possible.)
Very shortly after the end of that 6th Trumpet war begins, and the world barely starts to recover, there will be an agreement to allow Israel to share the Temple Mount. This is the start of the final seven years... but the church will still be here, waiting to get beamed up.
3.5 years after that agreement (confirmation of the covenant -- Abrahamic), after the Temple has been rebuilt, the "anti-Christ" will sit in the temple and declare himself God... and the Church will still be here, waiting to get beamed up. And the Tribulation will have started.
Since, by that time, the 6th Trumpet will have long since sounded--that means there ain't any more trumpets to go until the final 7th one... when Christ returns. But there are still 7 Vials to go... and the church will still be here, waiting to get beamed up instead of preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom. And all because they didn't understand the timing.
I've heard this verse a thousand times. Sounds good; eh?...
Ho 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:...
The problem is no one ever completes the verse:
...because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
It's not that the knowledge isn't available... the problem is it's rejected. Pride goeth before a fall. You can take it from me--I KNOW first hand. I've been there and done that.
When I said that time was growing short, that's exactly what I meant. And these are the words of Jesus:
Joh 14:29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
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B1inHim
LOVE one another
It is good to be able to actually use the seals like a God calendar to gauge our seasons by... seasons by which I mean the times that we live in and how cloes we are in respect to the final count... the 7th seal being the literal final count down
The 4th seal is 1/4th of the population being continually taken out with disease, and death be it by animal or sword... we are 15+% past this time presently with the moment by moment second by second count of 1.8 people dieing out of 4.2 birth on a global scale...(4.2-1.8=40+%)
World Vital Events
Each seal is a tell tale... the first being done in the first century AD and ever since, the second seal every now and again for centuries until 9/11 when it became full time, third world governments sell wheat to people on a daily basis for a days wage which will bake into one loaf of bread...
Never in the history of mankind have we had all of these seals in operation all the time, full time... they were spuratic at best.
Here a little, there a little, yet now that the planets population has grown to the capacity that it is, we have finally reached the cause and effect of having all four of the information's of each and every single solitary seal of the first FOUR seals with us on a moment by moment daily basis.
The actions of the information contained are in operation 24/7.
The 5th seal is not witnessed by us here on earth, that is why we cannot on any man made scale (even using God scales) measure things like when the rapture is going to take place for the day and hour...The 5th seal takes place in hevaen and it MAY have already happened, God and heaven only knows...
The next major prophetic calendar scheduled on the seal clock is the 6th seal... AND that one, the whole planet will know about.
The lost and saved will see it and be affected and effected by it beyond any imaginable words.
Love
your servant brother Jerry
2 Peter 3:9 (KJV)
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
The 4th seal is 1/4th of the population being continually taken out with disease, and death be it by animal or sword... we are 15+% past this time presently with the moment by moment second by second count of 1.8 people dieing out of 4.2 birth on a global scale...(4.2-1.8=40+%)
World Vital Events
Each seal is a tell tale... the first being done in the first century AD and ever since, the second seal every now and again for centuries until 9/11 when it became full time, third world governments sell wheat to people on a daily basis for a days wage which will bake into one loaf of bread...
Never in the history of mankind have we had all of these seals in operation all the time, full time... they were spuratic at best.
Here a little, there a little, yet now that the planets population has grown to the capacity that it is, we have finally reached the cause and effect of having all four of the information's of each and every single solitary seal of the first FOUR seals with us on a moment by moment daily basis.
The actions of the information contained are in operation 24/7.
The 5th seal is not witnessed by us here on earth, that is why we cannot on any man made scale (even using God scales) measure things like when the rapture is going to take place for the day and hour...The 5th seal takes place in hevaen and it MAY have already happened, God and heaven only knows...
The next major prophetic calendar scheduled on the seal clock is the 6th seal... AND that one, the whole planet will know about.
The lost and saved will see it and be affected and effected by it beyond any imaginable words.
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your servant brother Jerry
2 Peter 3:9 (KJV)
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
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