Seals

[B1inHim]

toxon is a greek word, translated as bow in Rev6:2...

check out the edimology of the word and see if the rider is a good guy or a false guy

see the Strong's Concordance....

ps. the BOW is not a weapon at all, but a BOW of fabric, a cheap copy of the original...a knock off...
Christ has a BOW, and so does this rider of the 1st horse/1st seal...

It is like you have these posts all tucked away and pull them out for use when the subject comes up... the same words verbatim... LOL
Jesus is not the rider of the first horse...(it sounded like that is what you are saying, I know that you are not saying that though) the first horse has been doing it's business since 70 A.D.

All of the seals up to the 4th are evidenced as being opened.

The information has been processed into the corresponding events and/or actions per the prerequisites and are a daily account for us to date.

The teaching that you subscribe to is tunnel in its holdings to one technology when God is omnipotent, all knowing and all powerful, Yet your theology just gives the seals the transgression of information and that alone with great exegesis.

Information, is something that has an action and/or effect and/or effort that corresponds to it.

Knowledge is used to grow more then just intellect.

4th seal= death+ famine+ death= World Vital Events
= 4.2-1.8=40+%
that means that this information that you have had all this time has already taken place by reason of corresponding action/effects some years ago (most likely 8 to 9 years ago, you can look it up).

The next seal of information with corresponding action to take place would be the 5th seal.
Now we do NOT have the ability to knowledgeably see this take place due to the fact that this takes place in heaven.

This in itself, keeps the information of several other theologies at bay with guess work, due to this fact. That the "5th" seal equation cannot be seen, therefore cannot be properly used. One being the "rapture" timing...

What is left?

The 6th seal with its information that has corresponding actions of cause and effect as did all the other seals before it and as will the 7th seal.

The biggest difference with the 7th seal is, the corresponding cause and effects and/or actions will be completely supernatural and not expected.

The first 6 seal are of natural causes and are expected effects of the corresponding information per seal.

The information that is in the 7th seal is intact but the actions and/or effect will have to be supernatural due to the fact that demons and spiritual entities and directly involved in the fulfillment of the finalization of Fathers will for us who are His.

Love,
your servant brother Jerry

 

[Super Kal]

B1, he's not saying the rider in the first seal is Christ... he's saying the rider in the first is trying to imitate Christ.

and honestly, what makes you think the first seal was opened in ad 70?... i want to hear scriptural evidence backed with more scripture... not personal opinion.
With that whole "world vital events" thing that you like to post so much, you dont prove anything... it doesn't prove what the first - fourth seal is, when they were opened, how they were opened, and what year they were opened in... it's like someone giving me a top notch computer and expecting me to know everything about it including it's origin without giving any details, instructions, or information on the object.

 

[B1inHim]

it's like someone giving me a top notch computer and expecting me to know everything about it including it's origin without giving any details, instructions, or information on the object.

Same computer, different operation…

The 4th seal represents a number and a set of circumstances to reach that number…

The Stats show that over 40% of the global population die by whatever means are given per the circumstances. Thus the prophecy is fulfilled.

If I have 4 people and one person gets the flue while starving, gets half eaten by a bear and is killed in battle by a bullet or sword. ¼th of my people have died.

The fact that it is now up to 40+% and you want a date, you go back and do the research.
The death toll is at 40+% to date on a global basis. That fulfills beyond any shadow of doubt that the seal has been opened.

You seem, most likely, that there will come a time that all of the sudden that ¼th of the entire 6.5 billion population will some how die from starvation and death and the sword when some of those things take time to happen…that is ridiculous. Think about it.
Rev. 6:8 (KJV)
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

This is the tunnel vision that we need to get out from under neigh of, we deserve to be ready for what is happening and your demand is rightfully so.

Here is your answer…
All the seals are natural cause and effect, set in motion billions of years ago by GOD in heaven for now. Except seal 7, that is going to have supernatural causes and effects.

This servant has nothing to gain but hell and eternal damnation to lead anyone down a wrong path…I am not going to hell for anyone

Note that these are not always global in all facets all the time and do hold the same authority on just a single locality as well
Seal 1
Jesus had to have died before the seals were taken and opened and the seals were not opened in time but in sequence.
All of the seals deal directly with the Children of Israel first and the grafted in as well.
So it would stand to reason that the first seal would be that the Children of Israel be conquered and that took place in 70 A. D.
This has since been going on through out our all history, post ascension, for many countries, in that the rider is not bound to one providence or nation
Full time, 24/7
Seal 2
This has been happening since the ascension but was completely solidified and ratified in one hour in the early morning of November 11, 2001 on the east coast of the United States of America.
Full time, 24/7, globally

Seal 3
The price of wheat has for years been the cost of a days wage (you look this up) for years now and more so to date in all of the impoverished South African countries and Asia Minor areas

Full time, 24/7

Seal 4
Has already been explained
Full time, 24/7

We would like to not have things as they are and just keep on doing business as usual, just exactly as we did after 9/11. All the Gay, kept on being gay, all the sinners just keep on sinning and on and on …ad ininitum, business as usual…post a thread here and sing a song, pay a bill and ding dong… not any more for millions of Americans now.

You look up the dates; I know that this information is correct.
The global events say so.
Our planet groans with the pains of immorality and we want proof of times and dates for seals.
They are right before our very eyes; all you need to do is open up your heart and look.

Then, if you would, please help us who are working to get the message out, that some of the information that we are getting is not correct and just say so, so that we can move on in Him and grow in faith and love.

Love,
Brother Jerry