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What you are saying then ,is that mankind falsifies the First advent, to serve his own purposes,thus polluting it. walt2000
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What you are saying then ,is that mankind falsifies the First advent, to serve his own purposes,thus polluting it.
Then Christ returns .To make the second advent ,And straightens things out Dressing his bride, His holy city ,in his second advent,
I think The Antichrist is even at the door here now.Trying his best to vomit on the water,and the earth takes it all in.
The harlot is what man made of the true word (ie.the false prophet)of God ,He cleans the woman, and dresses her ,and she comes down as the bride,The holy city now.And most of all Thunder no. 7 calls itself a harlot ,in Re.17/1+.When we get to the White horse it becomes Divine.
Look at the holy city -----12 gates
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Then Christ returns .To make the second advent ,And straightens things out Dressing his bride, His holy city ,in his second advent,
I think The Antichrist is even at the door here now.Trying his best to vomit on the water,and the earth takes it all in.
The harlot is what man made of the true word (ie.the false prophet)of God ,He cleans the woman, and dresses her ,and she comes down as the bride,The holy city now.And most of all Thunder no. 7 calls itself a harlot ,in Re.17/1+.When we get to the White horse it becomes Divine.
Look at the holy city -----12 gates
12+--------------------------Pearls,
12+---------------------------wide,
12+----------------------------high,
12+--------------------foundations,
12x12 =144 --12+-----thickness of the walls.City is based on the no. 12
12+---------------------------wide,
12+----------------------------high,
12+--------------------foundations,
12x12 =144 --12+-----thickness of the walls.City is based on the no. 12
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zeke37
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walt, I have been clear..
Satan is cast out of heaven, in his very own supernatural fallen angel body.
Satan comes looking like a lamb, riding a white horse,
to deceive the Chrisians and the rest of the world.
he comes first to seduce the bride of Christ
mankind falls for the deception, (all but the sealed elect)
that comes to try those who dwell on the earth
Satan is cast out of heaven, in his very own supernatural fallen angel body.
Satan comes looking like a lamb, riding a white horse,
to deceive the Chrisians and the rest of the world.
he comes first to seduce the bride of Christ
mankind falls for the deception, (all but the sealed elect)
that comes to try those who dwell on the earth
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B1inHim
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The clouds are not crowds.
The word of GOD says we will be caught up in the air with the LORD.
And the seals are seals that have actions that actually take place in real time as they are said to be...
seal 1= conquesting cloth,
seal 2 = no peace,
seal 3 = $20.oo bread,
seal 4 = 1/4th of the planet dieing,
seal 5 = white robes to the martyred
and
SEAL 6 = equals = a monster earthquake with all the trimmings of MAJOR catastrophes in life size proportions, which completely coincides with what Lord Jesus says in Matt 24.
Then 144,000 sealed children of Israel and then we show up in heaven...
Just like that
AND then all the mysteries start popping in Rev 8 and the timelines of "this" and "that" goes like a movie where they go from "now" to "then", back and forth... viles and plagues and stinging somethings and bowls of ugly...
BUT before then
Chapter 6 and 7 are real time events that have and/or are going to take place in this generation, in sequence and that is what the Bible says
The seals do mean MORE than JUST this and they can have other things implied, BUT this is what is going to happen...It already is happening in real time, all of the first 4 seals and the affects are a daily simultaneous event for us right now the one we do not see is the 5th seal, that takes place in heaven. The NEXT event is the 6th seal and that coincides with Matt 24 and what Lord Jesus told us about when He told us about His return in sequence according to the Word of GOD... simply the WORD of GOD in context, verbatum
Thanks
Love,
Brother Jerry
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zeke37
IMO...
time will tell..Paul certainly used clouds to represent large masses..so I do have precident. Heb12:1
seals are NEVER actions in the Bible dude...see for yourself.
They are always about information. we should learn from the Word, not from our own minds.
and remember that (just at the 6th seal timing of Mat24, which I agree is basically the same warnings)_we learn about a false Christ to come...don't seek Him here or there, 'cause it's not Him...
Christ teaches of false religion first, in Mat24, and first in Rev6..
He teaches the specific false Christ 6th, as with the Seals.
Christ comes at the 7th seal's conclusion, so how could he come at the 6th as well?
the 7th seal is opened, and there in it, is contained all the trumps and vials of wrath.
and Christ comes back at the trumps and vials of wraths conclusion.
Rev11:11And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 14The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17Saying, We give thee thanks, O LORD God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. 19And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
this is the earthquake happening...
Rev14:1And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
Rev16:17And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
18And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
19And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. 20And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
so, perhaps you should rethink your position...
I'm not saying that I have all the answers,
not at all....
but Rev6's 6th seal is not Christ's Coming. Sorry.
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Gog and Magog ? Revelation of Christ ?
The Gog And Magog War (Ezekiel 38) ,Rev. .
Rev.22/18 Don't Mix them
Tell me where I am in err?walt2000
The Gog And Magog War (Ezekiel 38) ,Rev. .
Rev.22/18 Don't Mix them
Tell me where I am in err?walt2000
Revelations Of Seven Thunders Explaining Flash Card
Those lines and ovals ,as you call them are similarity's between the thunders.And the area around the Thunders are really self explanatory.
GET MY CHART AND LOOK.
7 the top horizontal line is Christ's victory,in yellow.
6 next horizontal line is in Red ,The no. of Man.
5 line next is Christ's protection,souls protected,Come up my people.Word
4 line from the top is the no. of Earth.
3 line is the trinity no.Father(God),Son Of (God),Holy spirit, Word of (God)
2 this line is the union With (God)
1 is the no. of unity,(God)
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7 promises to the church's on the Earth ,things Thu seen,with (God)
The first four 1,2,3,4, are the four spirits that roam the Earth.
7 th.Thunder vertically is mystery Babylon White horse winner on Earth.
6 th. Thunder vertically is man.on Earth
5.th. Thunder vertically is Babylon Fallen Preaching to the Earth.
4.th. Thunder vertically is The word on the Earth.
3 rd. Thunder vertically is witnesses on Earth.
2 nd. Thunder vertically is union with Christ on Earth.
1 st. Thunder vertically is White horse ,winner with Christ on Earth.
5,6,7 is the consequences of the word .The trinity on Earth
even a
Fundamentalist Should see that lay ed out.To not see that, is a disservice,two the author.
look how the victory lines up at the top.
look how the winepress's line up ,next down.
look at Earth Quakes and the Great river line up horizontally.
look at the promised White clothed protection line up horizontally.
look how come up my people lines up with come out my people.
look how the seals,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 line up with the trumpets,and vials line up with each other.
look how wormwood on water,blood on water,line up
look how burning mountain in sea ,and blood on sea ,line up.
look how the two Babylons line up with each other.
look how The Thunders start with a White Horse,and end with a White horse .
And that is just ten item's,there are gemartria connections yet to them all ..
Revelations Of Seven Thunders Explaining Flash Card
Those lines and ovals ,as you call them are similaritys between the thunders.And the area around the Thunders are really self explanatory.
The Number 7
The number 7 perhaps speaks of perfection or completeness. God's complete provision in His dealings with men.
Some examples:
7 days make a complete week
7 colors make a perfect spectrum
7 great land masses form a complete earth
7 notes make a perfect scale
7 great bodies of water form a complete ocean
There were the 7 days of creation as well as many other examples throughout the Scriptures:
Zech 3:9 For behold, the stone that I have laid before Joshua: upon the stone are seven eyes. Behold, I will engrave its inscription,' says the LORD of hosts, `And I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
Rev 1:4 John, to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne,
To the Jew every 7th day was a Sabbath.
Every 7th year was a Sabbatical year.
After the 7th Sabbatical year was the year of Jubilee.
Every 7th month was holy and had 3 feasts.
There were 7 weeks between Passover and Pentecost.
The Passover feast lasted 7 days.
The feast of Tabernacles lasted 7 days.
At Passover 14 lambs (7 twice) were offered daily.
At Tabernacles 14 lambs (7 twice) and 70 bullocks were offered.
At Pentecost 7 lambs were offered.
The time of mourning the dead was fixed to 7 days.
and so on...
Seven continues to have symbolic prominence in the New Testament, with Jesus telling Peter that it is not enough that he forgive the brother who had sinned against him seven times, but "seventy times seven" (Matthew 18:21-22). Seven is also the number of Greek-speaking Christians appointed by the Twelve Apostles in Acts 6:3.
The New Testament concludes in a "great surge of sevens, with hep tads, explicit and implicit, tumbling forth from many verses."
In the Book of Revelation there were:
The 7 letters to the 7 Churches.
The 7 Seal Judgments
The 7 Trumpet Judgments
The 7 Bowl Judgments
The 7 Golden Lamp stands
The 7 Stars
The 7 Angels
The 7 Spirits of God
The Lamb with 7 Horns and 7 Eyes.
The 7 Lamps of Fire
The 7 Thunders
The Fiery Red Dragon with 7 heads and 7 Crowns.
The Leopard-Like Beast with 7 heads.
The Scarlet-Colored Beast with 7 heads.
The 7 Mountains The 7 Kings
interrupt. Revelations.
Look and see (7th Seal 's)
the (7 Trumpets,) (7 bowls=vials)and
all so Seven Thunders.Line up.walt2000
the (7 Trumpets,) (7 bowls=vials)and
all so Seven Thunders.Line up.walt2000
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zeke37
IMO...
B1inHim
did you research "seals" at all in the Bible?
Are they ever representative of actions?
the false Messiah comes first to deceive the church,
and the 6th seal is a seal of information for the elect
about his coming,
the 7th seal's conclusion is Christ's Coming...
and I did not say that everytime cloud is used it means mass multitude,
but context is everything...
and Christ certainly does come with masses, right...
whether you believe in pre trib, mid trib, or post trib...Christ comes with masses.
so the symbolic usage of cloud(s)=properly cloudiness,
could indeed represent just that, masses of returning believers.
as seen in Mat24, Mar13, 1Cor15, Rev19 and of course 1The4
since Paul wrote both Heb12 and 1Thes4, there is more than a chance IMO.
did you research "seals" at all in the Bible?
Are they ever representative of actions?
the false Messiah comes first to deceive the church,
and the 6th seal is a seal of information for the elect
about his coming,
the 7th seal's conclusion is Christ's Coming...
and I did not say that everytime cloud is used it means mass multitude,
but context is everything...
and Christ certainly does come with masses, right...
whether you believe in pre trib, mid trib, or post trib...Christ comes with masses.
so the symbolic usage of cloud(s)=properly cloudiness,
could indeed represent just that, masses of returning believers.
as seen in Mat24, Mar13, 1Cor15, Rev19 and of course 1The4
since Paul wrote both Heb12 and 1Thes4, there is more than a chance IMO.
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Then you agree with ignorance .MY Chart ,as you put it, is not my Chart, Christ is the author ,an even flow of Christs word, given to John from Christ, Starting with Rev.1 to Rev.22. No opinion of mine is given .I take all the italics out, then the space's, It comes as a flow of letters ,a ribbon of letters.Christ is riding The first WHITE HORSE,Ready to conquer and to conquer ,And is also the last WHITE HORSE With The Conquered.Sorry It is not for you to understand ,some will see ,and some will not see .walt2000
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If Jesus was coming on clouds of witnesses, paul would have said so just like he said to some, we are surrounded by a cloud of witnesses in Hebrews, but Paul didn't say that, he said Christ comes on clouds.
And right through out the bible God is shown travelling on clouds.
Paul is very clear.
Many don't wan't to be caught up to christ, they want to remain here on earth, it's right through out these threads.
Even to the extent of praying to be left behing etc.
Job 22:14 Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven.
Psalm 104:3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:
jeremiah 4: 13 Behold, he shall come up as clouds, and his chariots shall be as a whirlwind: his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe unto us! for we are spoiled.
Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Nahum 1:3 The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.
Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Not one of the verses telling of Christ's coming, mentions coming on clouds of witnesses, they all just say coming on clouds.
Wonder why that is? because it's true, He is coming on the clouds of Heaven.
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B1inHim
LOVE one another
There is absolutely no evidence to your interpretation of clouds being any more than clouds.
The Only individuals that are mentioned as being with Him would be His angels...
You keep using Matthew 24 and Mark 13 for reference like they are something different when both of them say the almost the same exact thing.
They are the witness of two or more being established, nothing more.
We have shown you countless times that Rev 19 does not say anything about any resurrection for anyone and the people mentioned in it and all the voices heard are in fact coming from heaven. Yet you continue to use it for some type of reference to this...
The use of Heb 12:1 which does in fact refer to a huge crowd is completely out of context when in fact there is no reference to a huge crowd in I Thes 4... Apostle Paul was speaking about faith and all those who had it just prior to him saying NLT
Heb 12:1Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a huge crowd of witnesses to the life of faith, let us strip off every weight that slows us down, especially the sin that so easily hinders our progress. And let us run with endurance the race that God has set before us.
For you to try and continue to use that to prove your point is not only out of context, but actually doing injustice to the Word.
I totally get having the “harpazo” taking place after the GT, as long as the GT ends at the opening of the 6th seal. That places us where we are supposed to be in Rev 7. And completely coincides with what happens just prior to what Lord Jesus says in Matthew 24.
However, by your continual demand that we are on the earth in Rev 19 when the Word says differently is making much conflict
I do not know anyone here who has been training to be in an army that will take out the BEAST, his kings of the earth and their armies… I honestly believe that this particular group has been training for this for a lot longer than what we could be trained and beside that, according to Rev 7, we are doing something else.
Rev 7 is the end results of Matthew 24, I Cor 15 and I Thes 4.
Rev 7 is the beginning of our heavenly service to GOD, as a group.
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The gospel is about believing in our hearts that GOD raised Lord Jesus from the dead and confessing that He is Lord.
This coupled with true repentance brings about the needed change in order to actually become a dedicated child of GOD. Once we are dedicated we are to learn how to live according to His Word…
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Not knowing when He comes back...
Love,
Brother Jerry
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zeke37
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1And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great harlot that sitteth upon many waters:
15And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
so the many waters are ready to be married to the Lamb.
the many waters are on earth
so ther are elect in heaven, all the dead believers...
and there are elect on earth who have made themselves ready...
the same gathering in Mat24/Mar13, 1Cor15, 1Thes4....
now, I am saying that there are many waters on earth,
that have come out of Babylon, Rev18:4,
who are part of that wedding supper
and Christ is not going to get married to "part" of His bride, no...
that is what the gathering/seizing is all about..
that's why Christ leaves heaven with His army (dead believers)
and comes to earth in Rev19
15And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
so the many waters are ready to be married to the Lamb.
the many waters are on earth
so ther are elect in heaven, all the dead believers...
and there are elect on earth who have made themselves ready...
the same gathering in Mat24/Mar13, 1Cor15, 1Thes4....
now, I am saying that there are many waters on earth,
that have come out of Babylon, Rev18:4,
who are part of that wedding supper
and Christ is not going to get married to "part" of His bride, no...
that is what the gathering/seizing is all about..
that's why Christ leaves heaven with His army (dead believers)
and comes to earth in Rev19
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I have no problem with that.that is a synopses of the whole story. All Seven Thunders .walt2000synopsis [sɪˈnɒpsɪs]
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B1inHim
LOVE one another
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We do not return for the war...we are in heaven from Rev 7 till AFTER Rev 20...
Even in the war in Rev 19, we are still in heaven...We are not accounted as ever being in any ARMY that God has, ever... that is pure assumption...Mans words.
King Jesus has plenty of warrior angels that are in His Army in heaven already... The Archangel Michael is their commander for now, till Rev 19 takes place...
We are in Heaven as it is written and not as men say; Rev. 19:1-9 (KJV)
And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
[2] For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great harlot, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. [3] And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. [4] And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. [5] And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great. [6] And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. [7] Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. [8] And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. [9] And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they, which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, these are the true sayings of God.
The new home that is being prepared for us is the new body that we will get for our soul and Sspirit to inhabit when we are transformed from mortal to immortal...
It is a mansion compared to the tabernacle/temple that we dwell in right now...
2 Peter 1:14 (KJV)
Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.
What is GOING to happen is not going to be very nice for all of us.
The church does not return with Lord Jesus for the 1,000 years either... The souls of them who were martyred for their witness for Jesus and the Word of GOD, who have not worshipped the BEAST, its image and did not take the mark are the ones who come back for the event...
Scripture does not support placing all of us back here on the planet for this specific time...
That is another assumption...
Individuals MUST meet the QUALIFICATION of being martyred for specific reasons in order to occupy this particular service to GOD...
YES!!! We will rule with Christ, but it does NOT have to be for this 1,000 years... that is so tunnel visioned and narrow minded of the teachers of this teaching...
There will be nations to rule after this is all over and dung with...
Rev. 22:1-2 (KJV)
And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. [2] In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Rev. 21:24-26 (KJV)
And the nationsof them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. [25] And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. [26] And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
We can see that there will be nations for us to rule after the WTJ.
The seals are information that has specific events tied to them...
In other words, the seals are more than just information and in each case, every time one has been opened a specific something happens...
Right now, the first four seals are a set of simultaneous daily events of the first four specific something’s that represent them...those something’s are taking place every day, all day long.
The 5th seal does not happen to be observed by people on the earth, which happens in heaven.... so we do NOT know when it has been opened…
The next seal of information will be demonstrated in real time with the elements of a great earthquake; the sun becomes black as sackcloth of hair, the moon became as blood; the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. The heaven departs as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island will move out of their places. These are the specific something’s that will take place when the next seal is opened.
That is the 6th seal...
We will all see what is up when it is actually opened.
One major problem that might become a stumbling block is not believing that this is an actual event and dismissing it like no big thing. It is a very big thing and MANY hundreds of thousands of people will in fact be dieing during this…maybe millions. It is going to be the greatest cataclysmic something’s to take place on this planet, that we have seen, since fire from heaven took out Sodom and Gomorrah.
This is not some trick that the devil can use to get people to believe in him, it will be an avenue to implement the NWO of the mark of the BEAST in order to account for all of those who do make it through this specific something's.
If I did not love y’all, I’d just stay quit.
Hope y'all had a good turkey dinner and that you were able to be with loved ones... AND don't forget that there still is room left at the dinner table of GOD, so go tell someone about what Lord Jesus did for them, as He has done for you.
Love,
Brother Jerry
We do not return for the war...we are in heaven from Rev 7 till AFTER Rev 20...
Even in the war in Rev 19, we are still in heaven...We are not accounted as ever being in any ARMY that God has, ever... that is pure assumption...Mans words.
King Jesus has plenty of warrior angels that are in His Army in heaven already... The Archangel Michael is their commander for now, till Rev 19 takes place...
We are in Heaven as it is written and not as men say; Rev. 19:1-9 (KJV)
And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
[2] For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great harlot, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. [3] And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. [4] And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. [5] And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great. [6] And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. [7] Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. [8] And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. [9] And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they, which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, these are the true sayings of God.
The new home that is being prepared for us is the new body that we will get for our soul and Sspirit to inhabit when we are transformed from mortal to immortal...
It is a mansion compared to the tabernacle/temple that we dwell in right now...
2 Peter 1:14 (KJV)
Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.
What is GOING to happen is not going to be very nice for all of us.
The church does not return with Lord Jesus for the 1,000 years either... The souls of them who were martyred for their witness for Jesus and the Word of GOD, who have not worshipped the BEAST, its image and did not take the mark are the ones who come back for the event...
Scripture does not support placing all of us back here on the planet for this specific time...
That is another assumption...
Individuals MUST meet the QUALIFICATION of being martyred for specific reasons in order to occupy this particular service to GOD...
YES!!! We will rule with Christ, but it does NOT have to be for this 1,000 years... that is so tunnel visioned and narrow minded of the teachers of this teaching...
There will be nations to rule after this is all over and dung with...
Rev. 22:1-2 (KJV)
And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. [2] In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Rev. 21:24-26 (KJV)
And the nationsof them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. [25] And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. [26] And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
We can see that there will be nations for us to rule after the WTJ.
The seals are information that has specific events tied to them...
In other words, the seals are more than just information and in each case, every time one has been opened a specific something happens...
Right now, the first four seals are a set of simultaneous daily events of the first four specific something’s that represent them...those something’s are taking place every day, all day long.
The 5th seal does not happen to be observed by people on the earth, which happens in heaven.... so we do NOT know when it has been opened…
The next seal of information will be demonstrated in real time with the elements of a great earthquake; the sun becomes black as sackcloth of hair, the moon became as blood; the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. The heaven departs as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island will move out of their places. These are the specific something’s that will take place when the next seal is opened.
That is the 6th seal...
We will all see what is up when it is actually opened.
One major problem that might become a stumbling block is not believing that this is an actual event and dismissing it like no big thing. It is a very big thing and MANY hundreds of thousands of people will in fact be dieing during this…maybe millions. It is going to be the greatest cataclysmic something’s to take place on this planet, that we have seen, since fire from heaven took out Sodom and Gomorrah.
This is not some trick that the devil can use to get people to believe in him, it will be an avenue to implement the NWO of the mark of the BEAST in order to account for all of those who do make it through this specific something's.
If I did not love y’all, I’d just stay quit.
Hope y'all had a good turkey dinner and that you were able to be with loved ones... AND don't forget that there still is room left at the dinner table of GOD, so go tell someone about what Lord Jesus did for them, as He has done for you.
Love,
Brother Jerry
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His army is already redeemed, not dead, they are wearing white robes.
The spirits asleep in Christ would not be much of an army.
You have mixed scriptures here to make a story, but the many waters of Rev 17 are those belonging to the harlot.
There are no many waters in Rev 19 but you posted those verses trying to make them all the same group of people.
In Rev 19 there is the voice as of many waters, that is Jesus who is about to marry the church - caught up saints.
Rev 19: 6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
The great multitude in Heaven is the whole Heavenly host, angels, beasts, elders etc and the bride, the voice of mighty thunderings are the seven spirits of God, The voice as of many waters, as I said is Christ.
Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
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