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Scripture is the authority, not the traditions of men.

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It is greatly offending to God for anyone to say: 'the Bible is NOT the Word of God'. The Lord Jesus speaks all the mind of His Father (Jesus being God in the flesh); and He says: "no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me". Some religous people don't realize that God is a Spirit, and no man will ever see God, except in the Christ, who true saints (as John 3; John 14; etc.) will see in Heaven. All other religous souls will not be there. It is sad that so many do not read the four Gospels to learn Redemption; and study the Epistles to learn Church truth.
All the religious ideas, hierarchy of many preacher types, and sectarian innovations is what is scattering seekers and dishonoring God. We MUST take "all the counsel of God"; "rightly dividing the Word of Truth", as our God tells us. Yet, many will go on turning from the holy "Word of Truth" to their innovations and ideas --so sad to see how Satan can deceive many foolish ones.
 
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It is greatly offending to God for anyone to say: 'the Bible is NOT the Word of God'. The Lord Jesus speaks all the mind of His Father (Jesus being God in the flesh); and He says: "no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me". Some religous people don't realize that God is a Spirit, and no man will ever see God, except in the Christ, who true saints (as John 3; John 14; etc.) will see in Heaven. All other religous souls will not be there. It is sad that so many do not read the four Gospels to learn Redemption; and study the Epistles to learn Church truth.
All the religious ideas, hierarchy of many preacher types, and sectarian innovations is what is scattering seekers and dishonoring God. We MUST take "all the counsel of God"; "rightly dividing the Word of Truth", as our God tells us. Yet, many will go on turning from the holy "Word of Truth" to their innovations and ideas --so sad to see how Satan can deceive many foolish ones.

Great post! One phrase that struck me was "rightly dividing the Word of Truth". I strongly believe that the truths of God are revealed in Scripture. Each time that I read the Bible God opens "my spiritual eyes" to understand more about Him, His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, who was sent to us to lead us into all truth. No matter how often I read Scripture, even the same "books", God shows me something new.

I do my best to not bring any presuppositions to what I read. By that I mean that I am not trying to reinforce my own doctrine, because His ways are higher than my ways. I want to learn more from Him every day -- by the Spirit. I try my best to clear my mind of any preconceptions and let the Spirit He has given me teach me what He wants me to learn.

I am opposed to rigid dogma, which is somebody else's "truth". I have been an avid reader since childhood, a blessing from God, so I let God show me what He wants me to see. Period.

I am also opposed for the same reason to any false feelings of religiosity and "holiness", which is why I read excellent modern translations in my own native language instead of an archaic translation where the language takes precedence over the meaning. I am referring to the dogmatic insistence that the King James translation is the only acceptable English Bible, but any translation can be included in this classification if people insist that it alone is the word of God.

Finally, I strongly believe in sola scriptura, the principle that God's truth is found in Scripture alone. Not in the teachings of "men" -- all people, regardless of gender -- which lead to ego-driven "truths" that morph into denominations. God is my Father; He alone will lead me into all truth.
 
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As the saying goes: 'to each his own ways' as he/she chooses, yet there is more to be found if one wants "all the counsel of God, etc. ...

That's not a Biblical saying. Christians are to follow God's ways. Period.
 
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That's not a Biblical saying. Christians are to follow God's ways. Period.

Most people here know that; but what I said does apply to all, though you might not understand that. That old worldly saying is true, and I ALLOW: 'to each his own way' whether of Holy Scripture or not.
You seem committed to being contrary, Pescador, even when you are not being challenged by anyone. I think I will just hereafter ignore what you say, though I do appreciate that you are a Christian; but just one who likes to stir up things (with that threatening Spear you hold at your posts) when others share things. At least I don't forbid anyone from speaking, but try to help them find a Scriptural direction in a scriptural way in a Godly manner. Good-by!
 
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Most people here know that; but what I said does apply to all, though you might not understand that. That old worldly saying is true, and I ALLOW: 'to each his own way' whether of Holy Scripture or not.
You seem committed to being contrary, Pescador, even when you are not being challenged by anyone. I think I will just hereafter ignore what you say, though I do appreciate that you are a Christian; but just one who likes to stir up things (with that threatening Spear you hold at your posts) when others share things. At least I don't forbid anyone from speaking, but try to help them find a Scriptural direction in a scriptural way in a Godly manner. Good-by!

That threatening spear? Really? That fellow was Ötzi.

Ötzi, also called the Iceman, is the natural mummy of a man who lived some time between 3350 and 3105 BC, discovered in September 1991 in the Ötztal Alps (hence the nickname "Ötzi") on the border between Austria and Italy.

Ötzi is believed to have been murdered, due to the discovery of an arrowhead embedded in his left shoulder and various other wounds.

Notice that he is not threatening anyone, but rather was the victim of a crime.

I don't forbid anyone from speaking or writing either. I also try to help them find a Scriptural direction in a Scriptural way in a Godly manner.

If you want to ignore what I write, feel free to do so. It doesn't affect me one iota.
 
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Scripture is an authority, but not the authority. As Christians we belong to one Church, but like a university it has many wings. The traditions of men should be examined but not outright abolished without proper cause. Christians are like the Jews in the time our our Lord Jesus, we are separated into different sects but united in the love and grace and mercy of our Lord. Men and women should read and comment on the Bible, but we cannot be with out reproach, and we would be wise to learn of the Saints that came before us, in both their examples and their mistakes.
 
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Yes, we should allow freedom of choice in Assemblies. Would it not be better though to forget about 'many wings' (sectarianism) as you mention, and keep the UNITY worldwide God says (note 1 Cor. 12:25-27, Eph. 4:4; Rom. 12:4-8; Rom. 16; Acts 20:27-30: etc.)? Denominated sects (including the RC religion) are man's innovations, and the unity God intends is that we be "one body in Christ" everywhere. Division groups only promote innovations of men for their interests. I have found the sound website at Biblecounsel.net to be very helpful in showing God's intent for His testimony to be "one body' worldwide.
One might choose to read various Bible versions, but most of them at least speak of this unity, (though some tend to express other meanings about what God is saying for the universal Church). I use the Scofield KJV study bible, which I have much confidence in, but certainly allow others to read whatever they like.
 
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As all are aware, there is much false teaching in the world today. It is not found only in the "Left-field, whacky" world of false teachers most are aware of, it is also found in what is considered conservative, bible-believing churches. While some deliberately spout out false teaching, there is also false teaching that is not deliberate, meaning that the preacher is not aware that he is teaching false doctrine. These preachers are simply following the denominational slant or following the herd. But a preacher who doesn't learn the truth of Scripture is just as guilty as any known false teacher. A preacher's number one priority, duty, and responsibility are to study Scripture, learn what Scripture means, learn what Scripture teaches, and pass on that information to those he teaches. By this, those who trust him to teach Scripture truth can know what to believe, obey God and how to live their lives in a righteous way.
In order to study and learn Scripture, one must spend many hours a day reading, researching, and looking up as much information as one can. It is a full-time job, which can take up to 10+ hours a day, a true labor of love. A sign that a preacher doesn't study is when they resort to what is known as the "proof text" method of teaching. For those of you not familiar with this phrase or method, it is the practice of quoting a single verse or passage by itself and after reading the words, teaching a doctrine based solely on the one verse or passage read. Not only is this wrong, but it also presents false teaching. There is no one doctrine or teaching in Scripture that can be presented or validated by this method.
Verses that teach and collaborate a doctrine are scattered throughout Scripture. It is a preacher's job to study and locate any or many verses that firmly establish a doctrine. Putting a lesson together to teach others is like making a patchwork quilt. You get a little bit here and a little bit there and a little bit over there and you put them together to make a whole quilt.
One of the most popular and common teachings is that Jesus died for the sins of all people, believers or not. The proof text used to teach this is John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, 'Behold the Lamb of God, which takes away the sin of the world." You've all heard these taught numerous times. (I am going to do a study on misused words in Scripture. One of these is the word "world." There are different places in Scripture where the word "world" specifically means believers only, not all people.) But this is not the only verse that deals with who Jesus died for. You probably are familiar with some of the other verses I am about to show, but they are not pointed out as having a different meaning than John 1:29, or when read, nothing is pointed out. (You are going to have to look up the verses for yourself.) '
Isa 53:12. This verse states that "he bare the sins of many. "Many" does not mean all people.
Mat 1:21 This verse states Jesus shall save his people from their sins. All people are not Jesus's people.
Mat 26:28 "Shed for many for the remission of sins" Many does not include all people.
John 10:14-15 Jesus said, "I lay down my life for the sheep." We all know that all people are not included with those Jesus called "my sheep."
1Cor 15:3 When Paul uses the word "our" he is specifically referring to believers only, not all people.
Eph 5:25 Christ loved the church and gave himself for it. All people are not a part of the church.
Titus 2:14 When the word "us" is used in the New Testament, it only includes believers, not all people.
Heb 9:28 Christ was offered to bear the sins of many, not all people.
1Pet 2:24-25 "Bear our sins," meaning believers only.
1John 3:5
1John 3:16 "he laid down his life for us."
1John 4:10 "to be the propitiation, (reconciliation) for our sins."

Some will point to 1John 2:2 as teaching otherwise. But let me ask you a question, does Scripture contradict Scripture? Of course not. So what did John teach in this verse? In order to understand Scripture, you have to know the proper context. You have to also know the Jewish culture, the Jewish mindset and concerning this verse, the average Jewish person's attitude toward Gentiles. All Jews were taught from early childhood that all Gentiles were pagan dogs that had no chance of salvation, that only Jews were going to be saved. What the average Jew did not understand, because they hadn't been taught, is that the Old Testament does teach that Gentiles were to be included in God's plan to save all believers. It took the Apostles about 14 years to fully grasp this fact. Reading John 11:51-52 gives understanding to what John wrote in 1 John 2:2. John was writing to Jewish believers. Many of the Jews he wrote to didn't understand or refused to accept that some Gentiles would become true believers. Since the word "world" here means believers, not all people, John wrote that Jesus not only died for the Jewish believers, he also died for the Gentile believers scattered among the world.

I realize that for some, it doesn't matter what Scripture teaches or what Scripture says. Some will disagree with what I write because they will believe that I am giving a personal interpretation. There are those determined to believe what they want to believe or that whatever their preacher says is "gospel truth." I don't care if anybody believes me. I will never expect that I can personally convince anyone to believe anything. But, I don't ask or expect anyone to believe me, rather I point out Scripture, the same Scripture found in your bible and I connect the dots. Do you believe in Scripture? Any verse in Scripture has to align with the rest of Scripture, it is one book, not a book with two parts. It is one plan of salvation, not a salvation for the Jewish people in the O.T, and different salvation for the Gentiles thousands of years later. There is one faith, not a Jewish faith and a Gentile faith.
Have you ever considered you could be wrong ?

Do you know " Calvinists" such as Spurgeon have said that " tulip " is the gospel ?

Now that is a false teaching itself and connflating the gospel and Paul would tell anyone that believes tulip is the gospel that they are " accursed " in GALATIANS 1.

And by the way later I will dismatle and prove you are 100% wrong with your view of the atonement and the word world, dead and every other word you use to justify your "calvinist" slant on the atonement and Jesus dying for all the sins of the world.

I was a "calvinist" for over 40 years and defended the doctrines for just as long. I know the teachings inside out and the church history and all the heavy hitters in Calvinism. I have all their books and systematic theologies.

hope this helps !!!
 
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