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Stephen Grocott, PhD, chemistry

If one believes in evolution, then one has to also account for the origin of life – the very first step. Without this, the whole subject of evolution hangs on nothing.​

Paul Davies, theoretical physicist and cosmologist

When I set out to write this book [The Fifth Miracle], I was convinced that science was close to wrapping up the mystery of life’s origin…. Having spent a year or two researching the field, I am now of the opinion that there remains a huge gulf in our understanding… This gulf in understanding is not merely ignorance about certain technical details; it is a major conceptual lacuna. Many investigators feel uneasy about stating in public that the origin of life is a mystery, even though behind closed doors they freely admit that they are baffled. There are two reasons for their unease. First, they feel it opens the door to religious fundamentalists…. Second, they worry that a frank admission of ignorance will undermine funding.​

Jeremy R. Bergman, PhD, human biology

Oversimplified, life depends on a complex arrangement of three classes of molecules: DNA, which stores the cell’s master plans; RNA, which transports a copy of the needed information contained in the DNA to the protein assembly station; and proteins, which make up everything from the ribosomes to the enzymes. Furthermore, chaperones and many other assembly tools are needed to ensure that protein is properly assembled. All of these parts are necessary and must exist as a properly assembled and integrated unit. DNA is useless without RNA and proteins, although some types of bacteria can combine the functions of the basic required parts.​

George Javor, PhD, biochemistry

But we now know that even the simplest of living cells, bacteria (that are not parasitic), must contain thousands of complex structural and catalytic proteins, a variety of nucleic acids, hundreds of small biomolecules, all in a dynamic non-equilibrium steady state. Within live cells, we see numerous series of interconnected chemical conversions (“pathways”) that are functioning uninterrupted. Their continuous activities are due to steady supplies of starting material and the ongoing utilization of end products. The recycling of waste to biosynthetic precursors completes the cycling of matter through living systems. The absence of any component of these complex series of chemical changes will cause defective operation or even death to the cell.​

Stephen Grocott, PhD, chemistry

The complexity of the simplest imaginable living organism is mind-boggling. You need to have the cell wall, the energy system, a system of self-repair, a reproduction system, and means for interpreting the complex genetic code and replicating it, etc., etc. The combined telecommunication systems of the world are far less complex, and yet no one believes they arose by chance.​

John K. G. Kramer, PhD, biochemistry

No one has ever demonstrated macroevolutionary changes on a molecular level, yet many people readily speculate evolutionary links between bacteria, plants, animals, and man. Are the gross structures not made up of individual cells with complex molecules? If macroevolution is unlikely on the molecular level, how can the whole be changed? Endless DNA sequence comparisons do not explain evolutionary development. Furthermore, the changes (mutations) observed on a molecular level, such as DNA, are predominantly disruptive, and always with loss of, not gain in, information and complexity.​

Arial Roth, PhD, biology

The presence of complexity – interdependent parts that do not function unless other parts are also present – poses another major problem for evolution. For instance, a muscle is useless without a nerve going to the muscle to direct its contracting activity. But both the muscle and the nerve are useless without a complicated control mechanism in the brain to direct the contracting activity of the muscle and correlate its activity with that of other muscles. Without these three essential components, we have only useless parts…. Interdependent parts, which represent most of the components of living organisms, would not be expected from random, undirected changes (mutations) as is proposed for evolutionary advancement… In nature, it appears that we are dealing largely If not exclusively, with purposeful parts…. The simple example of a muscle, mentioned above, pales into insignificance when we consider more complicated organs such as the eye or the brain.​
 

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What´s the point of this thread?
"Being a scientist doesn´t prevent you from holding religious beliefs", or something?
There are really two points: (1) non-scientists in this forum have said similar things and have been ridiculed for it, and (2) these quotes put evolution on ice.

The question has finally been settled for me, and I feel free again! :).
 
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There are really two points: (1) non-scientists in this forum have said similar things and have been ridiculed for it,
I don´t know that logical fallacies and unprecise thinking are more acceptable when they come from scientists.
and (2) these quotes put evolution on ice.
Well, no, they don´t.
But even if they did - just because someone with a degree said it that doesn´t settle it.

The question has finally been settled for me, and I feel free again! :).
Glad you have found your appreciation of science.
 
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I don´t know that logical fallacies and unprecise thinking are more acceptable when they come from scientists.

Well, no, they don´t.
But even if they did - just because someone with a degree said it that doesn´t settle it.


Glad you have found your appreciation of science.
Would you care to address the *content* of the OP, or does "I don't agree" about do it?
 
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Stephen Grocott, PhD, chemistry

If one believes in evolution, then one has to also account for the origin of life – the very first step. Without this, the whole subject of evolution hangs on nothing.​

Paul Davies, theoretical physicist and cosmologist

When I set out to write this book [The Fifth Miracle], I was convinced that science was close to wrapping up the mystery of life’s origin…. Having spent a year or two researching the field, I am now of the opinion that there remains a huge gulf in our understanding… This gulf in understanding is not merely ignorance about certain technical details; it is a major conceptual lacuna. Many investigators feel uneasy about stating in public that the origin of life is a mystery, even though behind closed doors they freely admit that they are baffled. There are two reasons for their unease. First, they feel it opens the door to religious fundamentalists…. Second, they worry that a frank admission of ignorance will undermine funding.​

Jeremy R. Bergman, PhD, human biology

Oversimplified, life depends on a complex arrangement of three classes of molecules: DNA, which stores the cell’s master plans; RNA, which transports a copy of the needed information contained in the DNA to the protein assembly station; and proteins, which make up everything from the ribosomes to the enzymes. Furthermore, chaperones and many other assembly tools are needed to ensure that protein is properly assembled. All of these parts are necessary and must exist as a properly assembled and integrated unit. DNA is useless without RNA and proteins, although some types of bacteria can combine the functions of the basic required parts.​

George Javor, PhD, biochemistry

But we now know that even the simplest of living cells, bacteria (that are not parasitic), must contain thousands of complex structural and catalytic proteins, a variety of nucleic acids, hundreds of small biomolecules, all in a dynamic non-equilibrium steady state. Within live cells, we see numerous series of interconnected chemical conversions (“pathways”) that are functioning uninterrupted. Their continuous activities are due to steady supplies of starting material and the ongoing utilization of end products. The recycling of waste to biosynthetic precursors completes the cycling of matter through living systems. The absence of any component of these complex series of chemical changes will cause defective operation or even death to the cell.​

Stephen Grocott, PhD, chemistry

The complexity of the simplest imaginable living organism is mind-boggling. You need to have the cell wall, the energy system, a system of self-repair, a reproduction system, and means for interpreting the complex genetic code and replicating it, etc., etc. The combined telecommunication systems of the world are far less complex, and yet no one believes they arose by chance.​

John K. G. Kramer, PhD, biochemistry

No one has ever demonstrated macroevolutionary changes on a molecular level, yet many people readily speculate evolutionary links between bacteria, plants, animals, and man. Are the gross structures not made up of individual cells with complex molecules? If macroevolution is unlikely on the molecular level, how can the whole be changed? Endless DNA sequence comparisons do not explain evolutionary development. Furthermore, the changes (mutations) observed on a molecular level, such as DNA, are predominantly disruptive, and always with loss of, not gain in, information and complexity.​

Arial Roth, PhD, biology

The presence of complexity – interdependent parts that do not function unless other parts are also present – poses another major problem for evolution. For instance, a muscle is useless without a nerve going to the muscle to direct its contracting activity. But both the muscle and the nerve are useless without a complicated control mechanism in the brain to direct the contracting activity of the muscle and correlate its activity with that of other muscles. Without these three essential components, we have only useless parts…. Interdependent parts, which represent most of the components of living organisms, would not be expected from random, undirected changes (mutations) as is proposed for evolutionary advancement… In nature, it appears that we are dealing largely If not exclusively, with purposeful parts…. The simple example of a muscle, mentioned above, pales into insignificance when we consider more complicated organs such as the eye or the brain.​

Where did you copy and paste all this from?
 
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Stephen Grocott, PhD, chemistry

If one believes in evolution, then one has to also account for the origin of life – the very first step. Without this, the whole subject of evolution hangs on nothing.​

All this sentence tells us is just how ignorant Stephen Grocott is, he doesn't like the way evolution is set up so he want's to change it to make it seem as stupid as he is.
Evolution as we all know has nothing to do with the origins of life just as the bible does not tell us about Allah or the FSM,
evolution is only concerned with life, no life no evolution.
Please tell me what's hard to understand about that?
 
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All this sentence tells us is just how ignorant Stephen Grocott is, he doesn't like the way evolution is set up so he want's to change it to make it seem as stupid as he is.
Evolution as we all know has nothing to do with the origins of life just as the bible does not tell us about Allah or the FSM,
evolution is only concerned with life, no life no evolution.
Please tell me what's hard to understand about that?
It's not hard to understand, but apparently not all of your buddies agree with you. And as a bonus, you've made the first ad hominem attack of the thread.
 
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Would you care to address the *content* of the OP, or does "I don't agree" about do it?
I didn´t say "I don´t agree".
How do you think I should go about addressing a collection of random quotes?
What is it you want to see discussed, specifically?
 
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Stephen Grocott, PhD, chemistry

If one believes in evolution, then one has to also account for the origin of life – the very first step. Without this, the whole subject of evolution hangs on nothing.​

Stephen Grocott is not a biologist, geologist, or biochemist. He has no relevant expertise and no published research in the field of evolutionary biology or anything relevant to it - his field involves the refining and unearthing of oil. While he is a respectable scientist in his field, his statements on evolution have about as much merit as my statements on evolution. It shows.

The fact of the matter is that regardless of the form the origin of life takes, and indeed, regardless of the form the first lifeform takes, as long as it duplicates itself imperfectly, evolution will necessarily happen, and evolutionary theory will explain how that lifeform and its descendants diversified. Evolution is an inherent quality of the way life is on this planet, whether or not we have a viable explanation for the origins of life.

Paul Davies, theoretical physicist and cosmologist

When I set out to write this book [The Fifth Miracle], I was convinced that science was close to wrapping up the mystery of life’s origin…. Having spent a year or two researching the field, I am now of the opinion that there remains a huge gulf in our understanding… This gulf in understanding is not merely ignorance about certain technical details; it is a major conceptual lacuna. Many investigators feel uneasy about stating in public that the origin of life is a mystery, even though behind closed doors they freely admit that they are baffled. There are two reasons for their unease. First, they feel it opens the door to religious fundamentalists…. Second, they worry that a frank admission of ignorance will undermine funding.​

Abiogenesis is a field in its infancy; even so, Davies's pessimism is not widely shared among biologists. Oh, and by the way? He accepts evolution.

Jeremy R. Bergman, PhD, human biology

Oversimplified, life depends on a complex arrangement of three classes of molecules: DNA, which stores the cell’s master plans; RNA, which transports a copy of the needed information contained in the DNA to the protein assembly station; and proteins, which make up everything from the ribosomes to the enzymes. Furthermore, chaperones and many other assembly tools are needed to ensure that protein is properly assembled. All of these parts are necessary and must exist as a properly assembled and integrated unit. DNA is useless without RNA and proteins, although some types of bacteria can combine the functions of the basic required parts.​

Hey look, an actual PhD scientist in a semi-relevant field who actually is a young-earth creationist. And what he's saying isn't even that wrong. Well, okay, it is wrong (there's no telling that all of these elements are required for the most simple life; he makes the same mistake that many creationists make in assuming that the complex mechanisms of modern cells necessarily must have mirrored the far more basic early cells), but it's not that wrong.

That said, I do wonder about Bergman's credentials, given that PubMed searches for "Jerry Bergman" and "Jeremy Bergman" both turned up exactly nothing. That's weird, to put it finely - achieving a PhD without a single published paper in your field is not exactly a common feat. So I decided to take a closer look. According to Creation.com, he got his PhD in Human Biology from Columbia Pacific University. So I google that, and look what I find in the first 5 results:

Court Orders Columbia Pacific University to Cease Operating Illegally in California

Well that's not a good sign.

It turns out that CPU is not a real college. Rather, it's an unaccredited correspondence college. Oops. So this guy's diploma in human biology is worth about as much as Kent Hovind's doctorate in education from Patriot University. It sort of begs the question - why would someone with as long of an academic career as Bergman's (he has two other master's degrees!) decide to pad out his resume like that? Well, the fact that he's published essentially nothing is probably a good hint.


George Javor, PhD, biochemistry

But we now know that even the simplest of living cells, bacteria (that are not parasitic), must contain thousands of complex structural and catalytic proteins, a variety of nucleic acids, hundreds of small biomolecules, all in a dynamic non-equilibrium steady state. Within live cells, we see numerous series of interconnected chemical conversions (“pathways”) that are functioning uninterrupted. Their continuous activities are due to steady supplies of starting material and the ongoing utilization of end products. The recycling of waste to biosynthetic precursors completes the cycling of matter through living systems. The absence of any component of these complex series of chemical changes will cause defective operation or even death to the cell.​

Similar to Bergman's claims, this falls apart by missing that modern cells are not simple organisms. Even the most simple bacterium alive today has been evolving for billions of years without going extinct. Why should we expect the first simple organisms to exhibit this sort of complexity? But either way, congratulations, you've found a legitimate publishing expert in the field who disagrees with the consensus view. I mean, sure, he works at a university that is wholly owned by the 7th-day Adventist church, but he's a legitimate expert with real PhDs who dissents. I wonder if this dissent can be found in the peer-reviewed literature?

...Nope, not really. His work in peer review doesn't reflect his views on the theory of evolution. I wonder why?


John K. G. Kramer, PhD, biochemistry

No one has ever demonstrated macroevolutionary changes on a molecular level, yet many people readily speculate evolutionary links between bacteria, plants, animals, and man. Are the gross structures not made up of individual cells with complex molecules? If macroevolution is unlikely on the molecular level, how can the whole be changed? Endless DNA sequence comparisons do not explain evolutionary development. Furthermore, the changes (mutations) observed on a molecular level, such as DNA, are predominantly disruptive, and always with loss of, not gain in, information and complexity.​

Kramer is wrong. How wrong? Really, really wrong. It's stunning that someone with a PhD in biochemistry could be so mind-blowingly ignorant of the research.

Arial Roth, PhD, biology

The presence of complexity – interdependent parts that do not function unless other parts are also present – poses another major problem for evolution. For instance, a muscle is useless without a nerve going to the muscle to direct its contracting activity. But both the muscle and the nerve are useless without a complicated control mechanism in the brain to direct the contracting activity of the muscle and correlate its activity with that of other muscles. Without these three essential components, we have only useless parts…. Interdependent parts, which represent most of the components of living organisms, would not be expected from random, undirected changes (mutations) as is proposed for evolutionary advancement… In nature, it appears that we are dealing largely If not exclusively, with purposeful parts…. The simple example of a muscle, mentioned above, pales into insignificance when we consider more complicated organs such as the eye or the brain.​

Irreducible complexity is not and never has been a problem for evolution. Irreducibly complex systems can and do evolve through intermediary stages - be it that the previous stage had some function that the current form has lost (such as the venus flytrap, which in the past was slower, but also had a sticky resin to capture insects), or that the existing structure had a different utility (such as the bacterial flagellum, whose early precursors were not used for transportation but rather for protein injection). Roth's ideas were picked up by Behe and widely and firmly debunked by the scientific community.

There are really two points: (1) non-scientists in this forum have said similar things and have been ridiculed for it, and (2) these quotes put evolution on ice.

The question has finally been settled for me, and I feel free again! :).

What an odd viewpoint. Firstly, not a single one of these quotes is from the peer-reviewed literature. One is from someone who clearly accepts evolution; three are from people with no expertise in the field, and all of them are wrong in fairly trivial ways. You didn't even take the time to establish whether these quotes came from actual relevant experts, let alone whether they were true at all; you just read them and accepted them.

The fact that there is some dissent within a field is no huge shocker; particularly if there is a significant ideological or religious opposition to the mainstream consensus viewpoint. However, when after decades the dissenters cannot produce any movement or progress in the field, it's a fairly decent sign that their ideas are without merit, ideologically bound, and pseudoscientific.

And let's be honest here, do you think these guys aren't ridiculed for their statements? They are! Within their academic fields, these people are considered at best a huge waste of time and at worst a dangerous distraction from the teaching of actual science. Nothing any of these scientists have published does anything to refute the theory of evolution. The meagre attempts by people like Stephen Meyer show the caliber of work at play here.

The vast, vast majority of biologists, geneticists, zoologists, paleontologists, virologists, pathologists, and scientists in almost any biological field accept the theory of evolution. The fact you can find a handful of pseudoexperts who parrot creationist talking points does nothing to diminish the theory.
 
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It's not hard to understand, but apparently not all of your buddies agree with you. And as a bonus, you've made the first ad hominem attack of the thread.
Now, it was you who demanded these guys to be ridiculed, for justice´s sake. ;)
 
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Stephen Grocott is not a biologist, geologist, or biochemist. He has no relevant expertise and no published research in the field of evolutionary biology or anything relevant to it - his field involves the refining and unearthing of oil. While he is a respectable scientist in his field, his statements on evolution have about as much merit as my statements on evolution. It shows.

The fact of the matter is that regardless of the form the origin of life takes, and indeed, regardless of the form the first lifeform takes, as long as it duplicates itself imperfectly, evolution will necessarily happen, and evolutionary theory will explain how that lifeform and its descendants diversified. Evolution is an inherent quality of the way life is on this planet, whether or not we have a viable explanation for the origins of life.



Abiogenesis is a field in its infancy; even so, Davies's pessimism is not widely shared among biologists. Oh, and by the way? He accepts evolution.



Hey look, an actual PhD scientist in a semi-relevant field who actually is a young-earth creationist. And what he's saying isn't even that wrong. Well, okay, it is wrong (there's no telling that all of these elements are required for the most simple life; he makes the same mistake that many creationists make in assuming that the complex mechanisms of modern cells necessarily must have mirrored the far more basic early cells), but it's not that wrong.

That said, I do wonder about Bergman's credentials, given that PubMed searches for "Jerry Bergman" and "Jeremy Bergman" both turned up exactly nothing. That's weird, to put it finely - achieving a PhD without a single published paper in your field is not exactly a common feat. So I decided to take a closer look. According to Creation.com, he got his PhD in Human Biology from Columbia Pacific University. So I google that, and look what I find in the first 5 results:

Court Orders Columbia Pacific University to Cease Operating Illegally in California

Well that's not a good sign.

It turns out that CPU is not a real college. Rather, it's an unaccredited correspondence college. Oops. So this guy's diploma in human biology is worth about as much as Kent Hovind's doctorate in education from Patriot University. It sort of begs the question - why would someone with as long of an academic career as Bergman's (he has two other master's degrees!) decide to pad out his resume like that? Well, the fact that he's published essentially nothing is probably a good hint.




Similar to Bergman's claims, this falls apart by missing that modern cells are not simple organisms. Even the most simple bacterium alive today has been evolving for billions of years without going extinct. Why should we expect the first simple organisms to exhibit this sort of complexity? But either way, congratulations, you've found a legitimate publishing expert in the field who disagrees with the consensus view. I mean, sure, he works at a university that is wholly owned by the 7th-day Adventist church, but he's a legitimate expert with real PhDs who dissents. I wonder if this dissent can be found in the peer-reviewed literature?

...Nope, not really. His work in peer review doesn't reflect his views on the theory of evolution. I wonder why?




Kramer is wrong. How wrong? Really, really wrong. It's stunning that someone with a PhD in biochemistry could be so mind-blowingly ignorant of the research.



Irreducible complexity is not and never has been a problem for evolution. Irreducibly complex systems can and do evolve through intermediary stages - be it that the previous stage had some function that the current form has lost (such as the venus flytrap, which in the past was slower, but also had a sticky resin to capture insects), or that the existing structure had a different utility (such as the bacterial flagellum, whose early precursors were not used for transportation but rather for protein injection). Roth's ideas were picked up by Behe and widely and firmly debunked by the scientific community.



What an odd viewpoint. Firstly, not a single one of these quotes is from the peer-reviewed literature. One is from someone who clearly accepts evolution; three are from people with no expertise in the field, and all of them are wrong in fairly trivial ways. You didn't even take the time to establish whether these quotes came from actual relevant experts, let alone whether they were true at all; you just read them and accepted them.

The fact that there is some dissent within a field is no huge shocker; particularly if there is a significant ideological or religious opposition to the mainstream consensus viewpoint. However, when after decades the dissenters cannot produce any movement or progress in the field, it's a fairly decent sign that their ideas are without merit, ideologically bound, and pseudoscientific.

And let's be honest here, do you think these guys aren't ridiculed for their statements? They are! Within their academic fields, these people are considered at best a huge waste of time and at worst a dangerous distraction from the teaching of actual science. Nothing any of these scientists have published does anything to refute the theory of evolution. The meagre attempts by people like Stephen Meyer show the caliber of work at play here.

The vast, vast majority of biologists, geneticists, zoologists, paleontologists, virologists, pathologists, and scientists in almost any biological field accept the theory of evolution. The fact you can find a handful of pseudoexperts who parrot creationist talking points does nothing to diminish the theory.
Now that is a good reply. Congratulations (really).
 
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And let's be honest here, do you think these guys aren't ridiculed for their statements? They are! Within their academic fields, these people are considered at best a huge waste of time and at worst a dangerous distraction from the teaching of actual science. Nothing any of these scientists have published does anything to refute the theory of evolution. The meagre attempts by people like Stephen Meyer show the caliber of work at play here.

The vast, vast majority of biologists, geneticists, zoologists, paleontologists, virologists, pathologists, and scientists in almost any biological field accept the theory of evolution. The fact you can find a handful of pseudoexperts who parrot creationist talking points does nothing to diminish the theory.
Deaf ears spring instantly to mind.
After reading the above post it would seem that I could not be further from the truth, well done.
 
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Now that is a good reply. Congratulations (really).
Thank you. To your credit, none of the quotes were particularly removed from their context - the scientists' opinions were all accurately and respectfully presented (save perhaps the conflation of Davies's problems with abiogenesis with evolution through the juxtaposition of the Grocott quote, but Davies does actually have issues with abiogenesis). It's just... Well, there's a significant difference between "a scientist says" and "science says".

When Richard Dawkins speaks about evolutionary biology, he is speaking as an expert in the field, and he is essentially sharing the conclusions of the scientific community with us. When he speaks on religion, he is not speaking as an expert in any sense of the word. As a result, his views on evolution (which are backed up by a mountain of evidence) are not to be given the same weight as his views on religion (which are... I haven't read The God Delusion or any of his other anti-religious works, so I wouldn't know).

The quotes by Javor, Kramer, and Roth do not represent the current state of the evidence in the scientific community any more than quotes by Peter Duesburg represent the current state of the evidence in AIDS research.

Also, on a side note, if you are trying to reconcile your faith with the evidence in reality, my advice would be to form your faith around reality, rather than the other way around. Take a note from the countless christian sects (including for example the Catholic Church) that accepts that evolution is true and that the earth is 4,5 billion years old. It's perfectly valid to see Genesis as allegory, and to accept both the scientific facts about reality and that a god exists. Because reality will not shift, no matter how hard you believe.
 
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Thank you. To your credit, none of the quotes were particularly removed from their context - the scientists' opinions were all accurately and respectfully presented (save perhaps the conflation of Davies's problems with abiogenesis with evolution through the juxtaposition of the Grocott quote, but Davies does actually have issues with abiogenesis). It's just... Well, there's a significant difference between "a scientist says" and "science says".

When Richard Dawkins speaks about evolutionary biology, he is speaking as an expert in the field, and he is essentially sharing the conclusions of the scientific community with us. When he speaks on religion, he is not speaking as an expert in any sense of the word. As a result, his views on evolution (which are backed up by a mountain of evidence) are not to be given the same weight as his views on religion (which are... I haven't read The God Delusion or any of his other anti-religious works, so I wouldn't know).

The quotes by Javor, Kramer, and Roth do not represent the current state of the evidence in the scientific community any more than quotes by Peter Duesburg represent the current state of the evidence in AIDS research.

Also, on a side note, if you are trying to reconcile your faith with the evidence in reality, my advice would be to form your faith around reality, rather than the other way around. Take a note from the countless christian sects (including for example the Catholic Church) that accepts that evolution is true and that the earth is 4,5 billion years old. It's perfectly valid to see Genesis as allegory, and to accept both the scientific facts about reality and that a god exists. Because reality will not shift, no matter how hard you believe.
I guess my challenge now is to figure out who is current, are they talking within their field of expertise, have they been peer reviewed, etc. Sounds like a lot of work :-(.
 
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I guess my challenge now is to figure out who is current, are they talking within their field of expertise, have they been peer reviewed, etc. Sounds like a lot of work :-(.
Why not try a different tack and tell us why we should believe the Bible?
Even if evolution was proven to be false tomorrow you would still not be any closer to finding the answer, you would still need to show why a god was responsible for everything, just like the people thousands of years ago made up gods to answer the questions they couldn't answer, you're still doing it in exactly the same way and you're still no closer to finding an answer than they were, I would say that was just standing still wouldn't you?
 
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