Scientists Find "Man-made Climate Change Doesn't Exist In Practice"

[steve titus]

Yes, if we find there is little to nothing we can do about it.

Yes exactly - if we are able to determine with good science that nothing man is currently doing has any significant effect on climate then climate is not a reason for ceasing to do it.

So far it looks like this entire forum is almost devoid of intellectual curiosity - can you recommend another Christian forum where folks are more awake? Thanks, Steve

 

[GingerBeer]

Scientists in Finland

Which scientists and were they expert in the field of earth climate and climate modelling?

 

[timewerx]

Sweet! So we're not wrecking our atmosphere!

We're only polluting our oceans and destroying forests. A bit better odds!

 

[timewerx]

Scientists in Finland found "practically no anthropogenic [man-made] climate change" after a series of studies.
“During the last hundred years the temperature increased about 0.1°C because of carbon dioxide. The human contribution was about 0.01°C”, the Finnish researchers bluntly state in one among a series of papers.​

This has been collaborated by a team at Kobe University in Japan, which has furthered the Finnish researchers' theory: "New evidence suggests that high-energy particles from space known as galactic cosmic rays affect the Earth's climate by increasing cloud cover, causing an 'umbrella effect'," the just published study has found, a summary of which has been released in the journal Science Daily. The findings are hugely significant given this 'umbrella effect' — an entirely natural occurrence — could be the prime driver of climate warming, and not man-made factors ...​

"The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has discussed the impact of cloud cover on climate in their evaluations, but this phenomenon has never been considered in climate predictions due to the insufficient physical understanding of it," comments Professor Hyodo in Science Daily. "This study provides an opportunity to rethink the impact of clouds on climate. When galactic cosmic rays increase, so do low clouds, and when cosmic rays decrease clouds do as well, so climate warming may be caused by an opposite-umbrella effect." ...

"The IPCC climate sensitivity is about one order of magnitude too high, because a strong negative feedback of the clouds is missing in climate models."​

More:

Bombshell Claim: Scientists Find "Man-made Climate Change Doesn't Exist In Practice"

If this is true, then we need to actually develop a means to reverse the effects as cutting down on emissions won't be sufficient.

 

[hedrick]

A review of the paper: Non-peer-reviewed manuscript falsely claims natural cloud changes can explain global warming

 

[FenderTL5]

Yes, if we find there is little to nothing we can do about it.

iow, insisting on clean air and water, energy independence, preserving the rainforests, renewables and sustainability.. are all a wastes of time when there are oil profits to protect.

 

[paul1149]

iow, insisting on clean air and water, energy independence, preserving the rainforests, renewables and sustainability.. are all a wastes of time when there are oil profits to protect.

That's a blatant mischaracterization of what I wrote.

 

[paul1149]

A review of the paper: Non-peer-reviewed manuscript falsely claims natural cloud changes can explain global warming

The other side of the story. Thank you, Hedrick. It's beyond me to say where the truth lies in this, but with the study now published it should draw a lot of scrutiny.

 

[hedrick]

The other side of the story. Thank you, Hedrick. It's beyond me to say where the truth lies in this, but with the study now published it should draw a lot of scrutiny.

Probably not. It wasn’t published in a peer reviewed journal, and probably wouldn’t make it to one.

 

[klutedavid]

Probably not. It wasn’t published in a peer reviewed journal, and probably wouldn’t make it to one.

So why does this scrappy piece of pseudo scientific research get such attention?

 

[hedrick]

So why does this scrappy piece of pseudo scientific research get such attention?

It doesn't. It gets one thread in CF, and a few mentions in right-wing web sites.