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Scientific Noah's flood.
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God brought pairs of animals to Noah,
asked him to escort them into the Ark,
and God closed the door behind them.
There is no scientific explanation for
these specific events, and no suggestion
that the rest of the story need conform
to "Natural", non-divine circumstance.
Noah and the Flood
9 This is the account of Noah and his family.
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juvenissun
... and God saw that it was good.
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No no no. You don't understand my simple statement.
Think, this is very important: A global flood will NOT create an uniform sedimentary environment. It is more likely that a global flood will form many different depositional environment and resulted in all kinds of sedimentary layers, include mud layers and lime layers.
Any type of sedimentary layer deposited in water could be made by the same single flood.
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Not at all. You name one sedimentary layer to me and I can tell you how would the global flood create it.
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You have your theories mixed up.
I'll explain. Consider the following statement.
But, you say, you can't use the base assumptions in your theory to disprove mine!
You would be correct. Each theory must be graded by how it fits the data and its consistency with the base assumption it uses as a foundation.
You can not say one theory proves another wrong because both sets of assumptions can be made to fit the data.
Then it becomes a question of which set of assumption fits the data with the fewest independents variables.
The the web page I referenced was explaining a theory with many unverifiable variables. They were assuming many things because it is necessary for the theory to be correct but they do not know for sure one way or another. The assumptions were selected to be far beyond any possible measurable verification accuracy.
The fun part comes when someone does find a way to verify assumptions which were considered unverifiable.
When we can check things the assumptions do not typically hold unless you were Einstein. We seem to be able to extrapolate his ideas without error.
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The animals came from the garden of Eden which was protected.
There is no statement concerning this however if not then the animals God had gone through all the trouble to protect in the garden of Eden died in the flood. It would also make it easy get one of each set of animals which had not degenerated through variation of the species.
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Conflation of Blathers
I never said anything about a single uniform sedimentary layer. That was not what the geologists of the 19th century were looking for. They were looking for a series or grouping of sedimentary layers that were global in distribution and were atrributable to a flood. They could find none. Nothing has changed since then, except for a narrow-minded theology that ignores reality. Go ahead and show us the flood layers on any map of the geological column. Do what no other "flood geologist" has accomplished.
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Conflation of Blathers
That is just a silly game. Show us where the flood layers are on any map of the geological column for any region. Go ahead and put your money where your mouth is.
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They had no idea on what to look for. I can tell you, it is very possible that you have a rock layer deposited by the Global Flood right beneath your home.
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Go out to find the nearest road cut to your home. You may see a layer of shale, or sandstone, or limestone. They could be the very flood layer you are looking for. All you need to see it is the understanding of a global flood.
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Grand Canyon, Coconino Sandstone.
Grand Canyon, Hermit Shale.
There you go juve, two distinctively different types of sedimentary strata, one of sandstone and one of shale. How can the global flood create them?
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Can I answer!?
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Thank you!I would be quite honored for you to answer it AV.
God stockpiled them as part of His post-flood cleanup?
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Wait, asked me to give you an example, then you would explain how the flood would create it. How does the flood create the, Coconino Sandstoneand,Hermit Shale. Saying it certainly can does not explain how the flood creates it.
Try again. Both are in the Grand Canyon which most of if not all creationist claim was created by a global flood. How does a flood create those two layers, or if you wish, just explain one of those layers.
How were those layers laid down? What makes them global flood layers?
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