Scientific hoax: Piltdown man was a fake

Wiccan_Child · Dec 3, 2007

Chalnoth said:
We don't yet know. Depending upon what the true fundamental laws are, it may indeed be possible that some subset of the fluctuations in the "quantum foam" are universes forming.

If it is indeed possible, the formation of a new universe from a quantum fluctuation would, from the perspective of an observer outside the fluctuation, look like the formation of a miniature black hole, a black hole which would then immediately decay away through Hawking radiation, forever pinching off the new baby universe from the universe which spawned it. From an observer on the inside, the universe may expand forever.

I forget his name (began with an 'S'?), but a phyicist came up with the idea that universes breed, mutate, and ultimately evolve in a way analogous to biological systems. He also concluded that a 'successful' universe is one that is especially conducive to the formation of black holes: his method of universe reproduction.

So if quantum foam is, in fact, a myriad of universes (or even universe-forming micro black holes), that could be a mechanism for universal evolution...

Beccs · Dec 3, 2007

Molal said:
Scientists uncovered that it was a forgery, not creationists.

The self-regulating machinery of science - impressive......most impressive.

It is impressive, isn't it?

If only other groups would self regulate the way scientists do . . .

Beccs · Dec 3, 2007

speakout said:
Evolution is not a law of science.

Gravity now there is a law of science. There is proof for that stuff.

There is no law of evon because it is a hypothesis at best.

They try to say it is a theory but it is not yet that, let
alone a law.

What is evolution? Reincarnation, a hindu religion. Reincarnation holds that species return as different species.

Give us one fossil which is between species?

For the past 6000 years we have not seen man evolve.

It has to take billions of years, never never land stuff.

Evolution has absolutely NOTHING do do with reincarnation. Even the most serious stretch of the imagination can't associate the two. Though I should be used to people making things up as they go along by now . . . .

There are plenty of fossils that show adaptation. If you're expecting to see a half dog/half sheep, as those who regularly comment on evolution without the most basic understanding of the process often do, then you'll have a very long wait.

kidoncoathangers · Dec 3, 2007

speakout said:
Evolution is not a law of science.

Gravity now there is a law of science. There is proof for that stuff.

There is no law of evon because it is a hypothesis at best.

They try to say it is a theory but it is not yet that, let
alone a law.

What is evolution? Reincarnation, a hindu religion. Reincarnation holds that species return as different species.

Give us one fossil which is between species?

For the past 6000 years we have not seen man evolve.

It has to take billions of years, never never land stuff.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

EnemyPartyII · Dec 3, 2007

Evolution is reincarnation the same why Walrusses are Cactii

Molal · Dec 3, 2007

Beccs said:
It is impressive, isn't it?

If only other groups would self regulate the way scientists do . . .

I find it impressive. Particularly since I have been apart of the self-correcting machinery.

Thanks for your comment Beccs.

Beccs · Dec 4, 2007

EnemyPartyII said:
Everyone knows scientists insist on using complex terminology to make it harder for True Christians to refute their claims.

Deoxyribonucleic Acid, for example... sounds impressive, right? But have you ever seen what happens if you put something in acid? It dissolves! If we had all this acid in our cells, we'd all dissolve! So much for the Theory of Evolution, Check MATE!

Wow. Simply wow.

We have stomach acid and we don't dissolve. How do you explain that and still maintain your argument?

Beccs · Dec 4, 2007

Molal said:
I find it impressive. Particularly since I have been apart of the self-correcting machinery.

Thanks for your comment Beccs.

Well I work around scientists and medical people all weekend and am surrounded by them at my university.

If we didn't have our checks and balances the world would be an even scarier place.

Patashu · Dec 4, 2007

Beccs said:
Wow. Simply wow.

We have stomach acid and we don't dissolve. How do you explain that and still maintain your argument?

You don't really think EnemyPartyII is being serious, do you?

necroforest · Dec 4, 2007

Beccs said:
Wow. Simply wow.

We have stomach acid and we don't dissolve. How do you explain that and still maintain your argument?

Poes law, case closed.

Beccs · Dec 4, 2007

Patashu said:
You don't really think EnemyPartyII is being serious, do you?

I hope not.

But sadly, I HAVE encountered this type of thing before from people who were serious. Though the acid angle's a new one.

Vene · Dec 4, 2007

Beccs said:
But sadly, I HAVE encountered this type of thing before from people who were serious. Though the acid angle's a new one.

Which is why we have Poe's Law. Smilies are very important to use.
See?

SallyNow · Dec 8, 2007

Beccs said:
I hope not.

But sadly, I HAVE encountered this type of thing before from people who were serious. Though the acid angle's a new one.

but, but...

EnemyPartyII said:
Did you know that Dihydrous Monoxide is being allowed into our waterways absolutely unchecked???

Corporations and industries are dumping this vile substance into our childrens drinking water, absolutely unchecked!

Did you know that Out of 5,000 biopsied cancer cells, 100% were found to contain traces of dihydrous monoxide??

Think of the children! How terrible that we are letting this substance in almost everything! It's in paint, soap, soup, cars, it's even in fruits and veggies! It's infiltrated fruit and veggies!

Yes, over the years there have been a few hoaxes. The hoaxes are few in number compared to the real discoveries. But, most people find the hoaxes more entertaining, so those are the things that get the media attention. Somehow, "millions of fossels found to be genuine" just doesn't make for interesting youtube videos.

The Piltdown man is a well-known hoax, played for the sake of of a hoax. When it was discovered as a hoax it was owned up to.

EnemyPartyII · Dec 11, 2007

Beccs said:
Wow. Simply wow.

We have stomach acid and we don't dissolve. How do you explain that and still maintain your argument?

[Fundie tapdancing, logic doesn't apply to me mode]Show me where the Bible says there is acid in the stomach? It doesn't! So if you say the stomach has acid in it, you're calling God a liar![/fundie tapdancing, logic doesn't apply to me mode]

RangerJoe · Jan 29, 2008

EnemyPartyII said:
Everyone knows scientists insist on using complex terminology to make it harder for True Christians to refute their claims.

Deoxyribonucleic Acid, for example... sounds impressive, right? But have you ever seen what happens if you put something in acid? It dissolves! If we had all this acid in our cells, we'd all dissolve! So much for the Theory of Evolution, Check MATE!

I dunno what is worse...This post or the fact that you honestly think that word salad means you won.

Thank you. I got many "LULZ" from this redonkulous post.

Skaloop · Jan 29, 2008

RangerJoe said:
I dunno what is worse...This post or the fact that you honestly think that word salad means you won.

Thank you. I got many "LULZ" from this redonkulous post.

The fact that you seem to have taken it seriously is worse than both of those combined. Poe strikes again!

NailsII · Jan 29, 2008

speakout said:
well try it again,it is idiot proof!

Or idiot proving.

speakout said:
I have seen my God, darling.

And I have seen evolution. But I have evidence to back up my claim - do you?

speakout said:
Let us meet God.

"Thank you jesus for dying on the cross for my sins, I ask you to come into my heart by your Holy Spirit and fill me to overflowing. Amen"

Please give yourself two minutes,

How do you feel,

Now I want to pray for you to receive the gift of prophecy.

"Lord I ask you to give me the gift of prophecy, come Holy Spirit"

Now tell me what you start seeing. Keep your eyes closed. God I pray for an impartation of the gift of prophecy.

Tell me what you see and hear.

How do I feel?
Stupid.
I might as well dance naked in the moonlight to increase my fertility.

I take it you were not granted the gift of prophesy, because you would them realise how stupid this thread would look.

What do I see?
Creationist nonsense.
What do I hear?
The fire crackling, the wind blowing, the kettle boiling, my fingers tapping keys, my breathing........

Is there a point to this or have I been poe'd again?

EnemyPartyII said:
[Fundie tapdancing, logic doesn't apply to me mode]Show me where the Bible says there is acid in the stomach? It doesn't! So if you say the stomach has acid in it, you're calling God a liar![/fundie tapdancing, logic doesn't apply to me mode]

firefinger2 · Feb 8, 2008

Piltdown Man was disproved as a hoax 55 years ago.

Now, if you provided evidence that, say, Homo floresiensis was a fraud, I might be inclined to doubt my prospective major (paleoanthropology).

Might.

lazyrockgod · Aug 3, 2008

EnemyPartyII said:
Show me where the Bible says there is acid in the stomach? It doesn't! So if you say the stomach has acid in it, you're calling God a liar!

Show me where it says humans DON'T have acid in their stomachs. It's not calling God a liar to say something that He hasn't ever even tried to deny. If you choose to use a book written (and re-written) by hundreds of people over hundreds of years to argue a point, at least do it with some basic degree of sanity

And we do have acid in our stomach, and this can be proved very simply. You know when you throw up, and your throat burns and your mouth tastes sour? That's because of the high acidity content of the vomit.

Also, all that Dihydrogen Monoxide rubbish? Dihydrogen Monoxide, H20, is water. Essential for all life. Not even a Christian would try to deny that, surely?

consol · Aug 3, 2008

The likes of Speakout deserve creationism, and the likes of Speakout is all creationism deserves.

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