Schoolboys punished with detention for refusing to kneel in class and pray to Allah

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Two schoolboys were given detention after refusing to kneel down and 'pray to Allah' during a religious education lesson.

Parents were outraged that the two boys from year seven (11 to 12-year-olds) were punished for not wanting to take part in the practical demonstration of how Allah is worshipped.

They said forcing their children to take part in the exercise at Alsager High School, near Stoke-on-Trent - which included wearing Muslim headgear - was a breach of their human rights.

One parent, Sharon Luinen, said: "This isn't right, it's taking things too far.

"I understand that they have to learn about other religions. I can live with that but it is taking it a step too far to be punished because they wouldn't join in Muslim prayer.

"Making them pray to Allah, who isn't who they worship, is wrong and what got me is that they were told they were being disrespectful.

"I don't want this to look as if I have a problem with the school because I am generally very happy with it."

Another parent Karen Williams said: "I am absolutely furious my daughter was made to take part in it and I don't find it acceptable.

"I haven't got a problem with them teaching my child other religions and a small amount of information doesn't do any harm.

"But not only did they have to pray, the teacher had gone into the class and made them watch a short film and then said 'we are now going out to pray to Allah'.

"Then two boys got detention and all the other children missed their refreshment break because of the teacher.

"Not only was it forced upon them, my daughter was told off for not doing it right.

"They'd never done it before and they were supposed to do it in another language."

"My child has been forced to pray to Allah in a school lesson." The grandfather of one of the pupils in the class said: "It's absolutely disgusting, there's no other way of putting it.

"My daughter and a lot of other mothers are furious about their children being made to kneel on the floor and pray to Islam. If they didn't do it they were given detention.

"I am not racist, I've been friendly with an Indian for 30 years. I've also been to a Muslim wedding where it was explained to me that alcohol would not be served and I respected that.

"But if Muslims were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war."

Parents said that their children were made to bend down on their knees on prayer mats which the RE teacher had got out of her cupboard and they were also told to wear Islamic headgear during the lesson on Tuesday afternoon.

Deputy headmaster Keith Plant said: "It's difficult to know at the moment whether this was part of the curriculum or not. I am not an RE teacher, I am an English teacher.

"At the moment it is our enterprise week and many of our members of staff are away.

"The particular member of staff you need to speak to isn't around. I think that it is a shame that so many parents have got in touch with the Press before coming to me.

"I have spoken to the teacher and she has articulately given me her version of events, but that is all I can give you at the moment."

A statement from Cheshire County Council on behalf of the school read: "The headteacher David Black contacted this authority immediately complaints were received.

"Enquiries are being made into the circumstances as a matter of urgency and all parents will be informed accordingly.

"Educating children in the beliefs of different faith is part of the diversity curriculum on the basis that knowledge is essential to understanding.

"We accept that such teaching is to be conducted with some sense of sensitivity."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...shed-detention-refusing-kneel-pray-Allah.html
 

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Well, I definitely don't agree with forcing them to pray to Allah if they don't want to. As the Qur'an says "There is no compulsion in religion." However, I do not see anything at all wrong with them learning about Islam or any other religion for that matter. I personally think that there should be a class in public schools where an non-biased overview of the different religions of the world is looked at.
 
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Well, I definitely don't agree with forcing them to pray to Allah if they don't want to. As the Qur'an says "There is no compulsion in religion." However, I do not see anything at all wrong with them learning about Islam or any other religion for that matter. I personally think that there should be a class in public schools where an non-biased overview of the different religions of the world is looked at.

The Qur'an says infidels are to be enslaved, put to the sword, or heavily taxed. If that's not compulsion what is.
 
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In my school, you just pray to Jesus and that's that. It's an Anglican school and we have chapel, etc. Incidentally, my school is also the most famous school in the world and Arab princes attend it too but most rich Muslims aren't the same as the poor ones who are ultra-religious.

The right punishment for the teacher is to make her eat a slice of pork or sack her.

The trouble with Britain is that we (like all Western countries) are just too kind to these Muslims and we have allowed them to overstep the boundary. We must remember where they are from and put them where they belong.

The West is just too kind. Look at how benevolent the US is in offering a home to Muslim terrorists in Guantanamo Bay. I hear they get fat in Guantanamo Bay because they are usually so destitute where they're from that they have nothing to eat. Going to Guantanamo Bay is a godsend for them - they've never had it so clean, so plentiful and so good.
 
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The Qur'an says infidels are to be enslaved, put to the sword, or heavily taxed. If that's not compulsion what is.

Please tell me exactly where in the Qur'an it says this.
 
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The Qur'an says infidels are to be enslaved, put to the sword, or heavily taxed. If that's not compulsion what is.
That's a lie. Taking specific battles out of context and trying to make them say that they apply to all 'infidels' is an Islamophobia scare tactic.
Also, the Dhimmi tax on non-Muslims was less than what Muslims had to give in alms and a far better fate than what a Jew, Muslim, or suspect witch would have gotten in Medieval Europe.
 
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That's a lie. Taking specific battles out of context and trying to make them say that they apply to all 'infidels' is an Islamophobia scare tactic.
Also, the Dhimmi tax on non-Muslims was less than what Muslims had to give in alms and a far better fate than what a Jew, Muslim, or suspect witch would have gotten in Medieval Europe.


Are you aware how the Dhimmi tax is to be paid according to the Hadith? Are you aware that the non-Muslim has to crawl in a public place and he's slapped on his face as he kneels to give his money as tax? Muslims are encouraged to attend to jeer and laugh at the spectacle. You can read about this in some of the Muslim threads and it's really funny when devout Muslims try to defend the justification for such a humiliation. The ignorance of Westerners is phenomenal. It's this sort of ignorance that allows for these infidels to behave like the Western world owes them a living.
 
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I was forced to pray to the Christian God when I was in school.

But that's ok. It was probably in a Western school in a Western country ie Christian country. The objection is a Muslim intruder entering England that has CoE as its state religion and this Muslim intruder forces Christians to worship the Muslim god. People in Muslim countries are forced to comply with Muslim laws eg Western women have been whipped for dressing wrongly or for consuming alcohol. They can do what they like with their own country and we should avoid these like the plague. But when they intrude into our space and they refuse to respect our religion and culture, that's when we should just chase them back to the desert they came from.
 
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Are you aware how the Dhimmi tax is to be paid according to the Hadith? Are you aware that the non-Muslim has to crawl in a public place and he's slapped on his face as he kneels to give his money as tax? Muslims are encouraged to attend to jeer and laugh at the spectacle. You can read about this in some of the Muslim threads and it's really funny when devout Muslims try to defend the justification for such a humiliation. The ignorance of Westerners is phenomenal. It's this sort of ignorance that allows for these infidels to behave like the Western world owes them a living.

I'd like to see those ahadith that say those things, I really would.
 
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But that's ok. It was probably in a Western school in a Western country ie Christian country.

I was in Primary school when I was forced to pray to the Christian God. My Primary school was a Community school with no religious affiliation, unlike Catholic or CoE primary schools.
 
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