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If that "tormentor" asked you for forgiveness, what are you obliged to do?
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If that "tormentor" asked you for forgiveness, what are you obliged to do?If those ended up in paradise it sure would not be paradise anymore. Can you imagine living with the person who was your tormenter in life for all eternity? It's a gift that God doesn't allow this to happen, but gives the mockers what they wanted, separation from him.
That's just wacked...There is knowing someone superficially, and then there is knowing someone intimately.
After Bundy, Manson, and Hitler are refined in the fire, they will come out resembling Christ, and God will be all in all. As for some fabled paradise, where you get to do your favourite thing all day every day, that is an invention of the church. Scripture teaches no such thing.
The video addresses this.We are sinners.. We are not righteous.. Unrighteous beings cannot exist in the presence of God.. period.. impossible.
At the point they realize that Jesus is their righteousness. He always was.At what point do these people gain their righteousness?
That's not my department. Only God can forgive the unforgivable. I can forgive sins against me, but that says nothing about the fate of the sinners soul.
For many years now multitudes of preachers and people in the Churches would have us believe that God has been in this great work of the ages for the short period of about 6,000 years. They tell us that in this day God is about to become so disgusted with the whole mess that He is going to close it down, take a few saints away to some far off heaven somewhere, and give up on the rest of the creation, the work of His love.
What a WEAK God some folk have and worship! They worship a God who CHANGES, one who in the beginning did start out to bring about a glorious end, but somewhere along the line lost control of the situation and has now thrown up His hands in despair and decided to destroy the whole thing and be satisfied with a little handful for Himself for all eternity. What great pity I feel for such people and for the god they serve! For this is going to put their god in the unenviable position of being filled with regret throughout all eternity because He was not able to carry out His purpose, and He will have to always remember that over in the hell He created is the vast majority of His creation suffering the tortures of the damned for ever and ever. What a prospect for God and His creation! If God knew in the beginning that it would turn out like this and included eternal damnation in His creative plans, then why did He create the world in the first place? Better to have forgotten the whole creation in the beginning! And if God DID NOT know this from the beginning, THEN HE IS NOT GOD.
Source: The Savior of the World, by J. Preston Eby
Kindgdom Bible Studies Savior of the World Series Part 1
Not really..It seems like the gospel of Damnationism is that Jesus saves us from God.
That when God comes in his wrath to find us, Jesus steps in to protect us.
You seem to be presuming that sending countless billions to eternal torment was a reasonable plan.
Sin is the fertilizer that made grace grow. Sin and punishment not being the goal or end, but rather grace and forgiveness.Actually, He is not as disgusted as He is heart broken. He created man to be in fellowship with Him. At the time of Noah...all flesh was corrupt and thoughts were wicked all the time.. So, He took the 8 people that He could work with. Those "righteous in their generations" and started over.
Now, over time.. if this world continues.. no flesh would remain alive. God even says that.. If He doesn't intervene.. all would perish.. It's not what He wants.. it's what man has done.
God's intention was for Jesus' work on the cross to be sufficient to save every human that ever lived.. and.. it is..This is presuming that God’s intention was for Christ to save everyone who ever lived. That may not be the case. I’m confident that you know that the word world does not always include all inhabitants of the world but can refer to a certain group in the world.
You have turned our loving heavenly Father into an angry volcano god. And then blamed the victims.To those who prefer the darkness over the light God grants them exactly what they wanted.
I would be living with the source of paradise.. Those who chose to deny Him will be given what we all deserve.If those ended up in paradise it sure would not be paradise anymore. Can you imagine living with the person who was your tormenter in life for all eternity? It's a gift that God doesn't allow this to happen, but gives the mockers what they wanted, separation from him.
Wow. That's quite a gospel presentation. Have you watched the video yet?God's intention was for Jesus' work on the cross to be sufficient to save every human that ever lived.. and.. it is..
However, only a few will accept the gift.
If someone was on a corner and saying.. "I will give you a million dollars next week right here if you come back, just take this coupon"..
Some would not believe..and not take a coupon.
Some would believe and take a coupon.
The next week, those with the coupon get their million dollars...
Those without are not going to be able to say "HEY.. I believe you now.. can I have a million dollars too"?
They will be simply told NO.. not because the person couldn't but because the people didn't believe.
Every knee will bow.. some will then go to paradise.. others to damnation..At the point they realize that Jesus is their righteousness. He always was.
Every knee will bow and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord.
If it has knees, it will bow; if it has a tongue, it will confess.
In heaven and on earth and under the earth. (the realm of the dead)
Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says,
“Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that
he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.
Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart
that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Note on "acknowledge" in Philippians 2:11 from Strong's Concordance
S1843 eksomologéō (from 1537 /ek, "wholly out from," intensifying 3670 /homologéō, "say the same thing about") – properly, fully agree and to acknowledge that agreement openly (whole-heartedly); hence, to confess ("openly declare"), without reservation (no holding back).
Scripture please?And his last word was what? That some go away to eternal reward and some to eternal life.
You have turned God into some wussy who after everything is said and done.. just opens the doors of heaven to all the humans.. good, bad and ugly.. A God that doesn't hold to His own words.You have turned our loving heavenly Father into an angry volcano god. And then blamed the victims.
Acknowledge is defined as "openly (whole-heartedly); hence, to confess ("openly declare"), without reservation (no holding back)." Thus not by coercion.Every knee will bow.. some will then go to paradise.. others to damnation..
There are no atheists in hell..
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