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Satan's ET Deception Plans To Kill 90% Of The World By 2029

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Why call me dumb? Do you not respect other peoples views? Where is your Christian tolerance of others?
You really need to read that again, they didn't call you dumb, they called your Idea dumb.
 
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I'm well aware of all that but the MT is the correct genealogy even though they used the LXX. Methuselah in the LXX lives beyond the flood which is impossible and there are religious writings that show bias in the lengths of certain patriarchs lives who were favoured at that later time of its writing.

Comparing the numbers in the LXX text (not later versions of the Septuagint, which are more dubious) with the numbers between , simple math proves your statement wrong.

Here is what the LXX actually says from:
English Translation of the Greek Septuagint Bible
The Translation of the Greek Old Testament Scriptures, Including the Apocrypha.
Compiled from the Translation by Sir Lancelot C. L. Brenton 1851
Genesis

Genesis
Chapter 5
5:1 This is the genealogy of men in the day in which God made Adam; in the image of God he made him: 2 male and female he made them, and blessed them; and he called his name Adam, in the day in which he made them. 3 And Adam lived two hundred and thirty years, and begot a son after his own form, and after his own image, and he called his name Seth. 4 And the days of Adam, which he lived after his begetting Seth, were seven hundred years; and he begot sons and daughters. 5 And all the days of Adam which he lived were nine hundred and thirty years, and he died. 6 Now Seth lived two hundred and five years, and begot Enos. 7 And Seth lived after his begetting Enos, seven hundred and seven years, and he begot sons and daughters. 8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years, and he died. 9 And Enos lived an hundred and ninety years, and begot Cainan. 10 And Enos lived after his begetting Cainan, seven hundred and fifteen years, and he begot sons and daughters. 11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years, and he died. 12 And Cainan lived an hundred and seventy years, and he begot Maleleel. 13 And Cainan lived after his begetting Maleleel, seven hundred and forty years, and he begot sons and daughters. 14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years, and he died.

15 And Maleleel lived an hundred and sixty and five years, and he begot Jared. 16And Maleleel lived after his begetting Jared, seven hundred and thirty years, and he begot sons and daughters. 17 And all the days of Maleleel were eight hundred and ninety and five years, and he died. 18 And Jared lived an hundred and sixty and two years, and begot Enoch: 19 and Jared lived after his begetting Enoch, eight hundred years, and he begot sons and daughters. 20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred and sixty and two years, and he died. 21 And Enoch lived an hundred and sixty and five years, and begat Mathusala. 22 And Enoch was well-pleasing to God after his begetting Mathusala, two hundred years, and he begot sons and daughters. 23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty and five years. 24 And Enoch was well-pleasing to God, and was not found, because God translated him. 25 And Mathusala lived an hundred and sixty and seven years, and begot Lamech. 26 And Mathusala lived after his begetting Lamech eight hundred and two years, and begot sons and daughters. 27 And all the days of Mathusala which he lived, were nine hundred and sixty and nine years, and he died. 28 And Lamech lived an hundred and eighty and eight years, and begot a son. 29 And he called his name Noe, saying, This one will cause us to cease from our works, and from the toils of our hands, and from the earth, which the Lord God has cursed. 30 And Lamech lived after his begetting Noe, five hundred and sixty and five years, and begot sons and daughters. 31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred and fifty-three years, and he died.

Chapter 6

6:1 And Noe was five hundred years old, and he begot three sons, Sem, Cham, and Japheth.
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6 And Noe was six hundred years old when the flood of water was upon the earth. ...
11 In the six hundredth year of the life of Noe, in the second month, on the twenty-seventh day of the month, on this day* all the fountains of the abyss were broken up, and the flood-gates of heaven were opened. 12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

* My note: this day would fall very close (within two weeks either way) to Halloween, the celebration of dead things (adopted from other more ancient festivals). Coincidence?​

Methusala lived a total of 967 years. He was 182 years old when he begat Lamech, who begat Noe (Noah) at 188 years old. Noah was 600 when the Food began. So that means there was 182 + 188 + 600 years between Methusala's birth and death. That totals to 970 years. Yet we are told in verse 27 "And all the days of Mathusala which he lived, were nine hundred and sixty and nine years, and he died."

The LXX does not teach that Methusala outlived the beginning of the flood!


The chronology is accurate, please see here: 66th Jubilee Found! - Year 3300 From Creation

Somebody has done hornswoggled you! ALL of theses calendars are built on assumptions! If the assumptions are off, even a little, that can have a building impact of errors (like a small snowball at the top of a mountain getting quite large by the time it stops).

And the 3.5 year ministry is just traditional teaching started by the early church fathers. Today we have many scriptural proofs and physical evidence too, please see here: Jesus’ One Year Ministry

Bunk! Please show me even one reputable conservative Bible scholar who believes that!

Scholars who have attempted a synchronized harmony of the Gospels seem to indicate the Jesus went up to Jerusalem on three different occasions. From this, the tradition has grown up that his ministry was three years.

Beyond this interpolation, however, there is nothing to suggest how long his earthly ministry actually lasted. As such, it is probably best to say his ministry lasted at least three years.

On Jesus' birth date, please read (or re-read) this article (which is really research notes) about Jesus' birth date by astronomer Barry Setterfield:
Christmas Star technical notes
Barry Setterfield has a DVD on the Christmas Star for sale on his site which is pretty good. You just have to get past his Aussie accent.

I like Michael Heiser on some things... on others, not so much. He is a somewhat conservative achademic and deserves to be heard even on his controversial ideas. He puts Jesus' birth date at September 11, 3 BC. Which is where I think you got the date from, or something very similar.
September 11: Happy Birthday to Jesus | Dr. Michael Heiser

On reflection, I think 3 BC it is too early, and prefer Setterfield's idea of almost the same day, but in 1 AD. Again, Setterfield is a professional astronomer, so it isn't like he knows nothing of the subject. A certain amount of one's biases (and we are all biased) playes a part in one's final answer on this issue.

Jesus was absolutely not born in December, period!

Certainly the commonly sited dates of 4 BC or even 7 BC are too early (usually preferred by liberals and skeptics).

Herod probably died as late as 3 AD (per Setterfield), but he died at least 2 years after Jesus was born.
 
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What evidence?

There is no scientifically credible evidence that aliens have visited this planet.

You can deny, to some degree, the amount of evidence for "aliens" but you cannot deny the UFO phenomena, which has been going on for at least hundreds of years if not thousands of years... and, no, I am not an advocate of the "ancient aliens" POV popularized by Eric von Daneikin, Zachariah Stitching, and now the History Cannel on TV. In fact, I recommend looking up Dr. Michael S. Heiser, a real expert on ancient Mid-East languages and customs. Michael Heiser has demolished most of their arguments in articles written and available on the internet and in videos on YouTube.

Ever read any of Jaques Vallee's work? See the Wiki synopsis of the man at
Jacques Vallée - Wikipedia
He is one of the few UFO researchers I actually respect, even though Vallee is either an outright atheist or agnostic and would never totally agree with my POV.

Below quotes are from the Wiki article:

Vallée was born in Pontoise, France in 1939. He received his Bachelor of Science degree in mathematics from the Sorbonne, followed by his Master of Science in astrophysics from the University of Lille. He began his professional life as an astronomer at the Paris Observatory in 1961.
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Along with his mentor, astronomer J. Allen Hynek, Vallée carefully studied the phenomenon of UFOs for many years and served as the real-life model for the character portrayed by François Truffaut in Steven Spielberg’s film Close Encounters of the Third Kind.[2]

His research has taken him to countries all over the world. Considered one of the leading experts in UFO phenomena, Vallée has written several scientific books on the subject.
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In the mid-1960s, like many other UFO researchers, Vallée initially attempted to validate the popular Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (or ETH). Leading UFO researcher Jerome Clark[5] argues that Vallée's first two UFO books were among the most scientifically sophisticated defenses of the ETH ever mounted.

However, by 1969, Vallée's conclusions had changed, and he publicly stated that the ETH was too narrow and ignored too much data. Vallée began exploring the commonalities between UFOs, cults, religious movements, demons, angels, ghosts, cryptid sightings, and psychic phenomena. Speculation about these potential links were first detailed in Vallée's third UFO book, Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers.

As an alternative to the extraterrestrial visitation hypothesis, Vallée has suggested a multidimensional visitation hypothesis. This hypothesis represents an extension of the ETH where the alleged extraterrestrials could be potentially from anywhere. The entities could be multidimensional beyond space-time, and thus could coexist with humans, yet remain undetected.

Vallée's opposition to the popular ETH was not well received by prominent U.S. ufologists, hence he was viewed as something of an outcast. Indeed, Vallée refers to himself as a "heretic among heretics".

Vallée's opposition to the ETH theory is summarised in his paper, "Five Arguments Against the Extraterrestrial Origin of Unidentified Flying Objects", Journal of Scientific Exploration, 1990:

Scientific opinion has generally followed public opinion in the belief that unidentified flying objects either do not exist (the "natural phenomena hypothesis") or, if they do, must represent evidence of a visitation by some advanced race of space travellers (the extraterrestrial hypothesis or "ETH"). It is the view of the author that research on UFOs need not be restricted to these two alternatives. On the contrary, the accumulated data base exhibits several patterns tending to indicate that UFOs are real, represent a previously unrecognized phenomenon, and that the facts do not support the common concept of "space visitors." Five specific arguments articulated here contradict the ETH:
  1. unexplained close encounters are far more numerous than required for any physical survey of the earth;
  2. the humanoid body structure of the alleged "aliens" is not likely to have originated on another planet and is not biologically adapted to space travel;
  3. the reported behavior in thousands of abduction reports contradicts the hypothesis of genetic or scientific experimentation on humans by an advanced race;
  4. the extension of the phenomenon throughout recorded human history demonstrates that UFOs are not a contemporary phenomenon; and
  5. the apparent ability of UFOs to manipulate space and time suggests radically different and richer alternatives.

Vallée is often highly critical of UFO investigators overall, both believers and skeptics, asserting that what often passes for an acceptable level of investigation in a UFO context would be considered sloppy and seriously inadequate investigation in other fields. He has pointed out logical flaws and methodological flaws common in such research. Unlike many critics of UFO investigative efforts, his critiques are not condescending and dismissive and he indicates that he is simply interested in good science.

Also, look at some of the references about "evidence" linked to the article at the bottom of the page.




Conversely, it is possible they exist elsewhere in the universe; we have not detected them yet, and it would take them a very long time to reach us due to the speed of light.

Personally, I do not believe natural abiogenesis is possible, so there is no biological life outside our solar system. If any life is found in our solar system, outside of earth, it is probably bacteria from the planet Earth.

There is life beyond Earth's "reality", however, and it is very "alien" to us. God created angels and angelic creatures. God, Himself is very "otherly" from anything else that exists... that is what the word 'Holy' indicates in scripture.
There are numerous accounts of these angelic beings either being made visible or actually materializing and even talking, eating, and drinking with men.



It is likely impossible for communication between this dimension and other dimensions of reality if by that, you are referring to the alternate universes envisaged by the Many Worlds interpretation of Quantum Mechanics.

You sound like a naturalist, am I correct or not? I just like to know the POV of who I am conversing with. And, in this case, I am referring to the idea that some people have that God set up the natural laws at the beginning of creation, then act like He cannot break those laws.

I don't know if Quantum Mechanics can or will provide any answers about the "heavenly" realm. But, it exists. And it is more real than our world or cosmos.
 
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but you cannot deny the UFO phenomena, which has been going on for at least hundreds of years if not thousands of years.

Fr. Seraphim Rose, in Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future argued these phenomena were due to demonic activity.
 
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Fr. Seraphim Rose, in Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future argued these phenomena were due to demonic activity.

First, I completely agree with that assessment that UFOs are actually demonic or fallen-angel manifestations.

When people talk about the "aliens" associated with UFOs, the vast majority of people, however, are not thinking "demons", most are thinking "extra-terrestrial" visitor from another planet... way out in space somewhere.

I was trying to show that there are even secular scientists who think some type of "extra-dimensional" entities are behind these manipulations and they (the 'entities') may not be the friendly ETs we see so often in movies and TV shows.
 
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First, I completely agree with that assessment that UFOs are actually demonic or fallen-angel manifestations.

When people talk about the "aliens" associated with UFOs, the vast majority of people, however, are not thinking "demons", most are thinking "extra-terrestrial" visitor from another planet... way out in space somewhere.

I was trying to show that there are even secular scientists who think some type of "extra-dimensional" entities are behind these manipulations and they (the 'entities') may not be the friendly ETs we see so often in movies and TV shows.
Revelation 16 speaks of three frog like creatures that go forth to the kings of the earth to gather them together against Christ , they do wonders in the sight of men. These frog like little green men are spirits of devils and in 1954 ( i think thats the date) at Edwards Airforce base I believe there was a meeting with three frog like so called aliens and a treaty made. Eisenhower was there apparently and the bishop of the Catholic church from Los Angelis and 200 personnel.

apparently. If so this would line up with the three frog like creatures gathering the kings together against Christ. Possibly.

Did President Eisenhower Meet With Aliens at Holloman Air Force Base?
 
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First, I completely agree with that assessment that UFOs are actually demonic or fallen-angel manifestations.

When people talk about the "aliens" associated with UFOs, the vast majority of people, however, are not thinking "demons", most are thinking "extra-terrestrial" visitor from another planet... way out in space somewhere.

That's because they most likely are visitors from another planet. Some Aliens could be demonic, there are some bad ones, the Greys seem to be the ones behind abductions But refuse to accept we are alone in the universe.
 
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That's because they most likely are visitors from another planet. Some Aliens could be demonic, there are some bad ones, the Greys seem to be the ones behind abductions But refuse to accept we are alone in the universe.

I do not believe we are completely alone in the universe... the Bible tells us that there are at least angels, seraphim, cherubim, and living creatures. But they normally reside in the "heavenly realm" but can cross over and visit us when God feels it necessary.

I do not believe God created any of the biological "higher life forms" in our realm of reality to populate distant planets. That would assume either God directly created those life forms or they arose spontaneously and naturalisticly via abiogenesis, a chemical evolutionary process, that just happened to produce life (as told in one of the "just so" stories of evolutionists for which there is NO real evidence is possible, much less probable).

If God created this "nepish" life (as in Genesis, then it is under the curse from Adam's Fall... Jesus came to redeem all of creation and the current heavens in our realm of reality, what we refer to as the cosmos, will be burnt up and replaced. There will be a "new heavens and a new earth".

So if intelligent biological beings of some sort did exist on distant planets, they are also under the curse and need a saviour.

But have you ever took the time to look up the messages that are left us by the "aliens"? You might find the exercise fuitful. Generally, the messages (sometimes whole books, like Urantra for example) sound an awful lot like New Age "doctrines of demons" (or ancient paganism)... no judgement after death... spiritual evolution to higher "planes" of existence, usually some reincarnation thrown in, denial of the Biblical Jesus as "the way, the truth, and the life".
 
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I do not believe we are completely alone in the universe... the Bible tells us that there are at least angels, seraphim, cherubim, and living creatures. But they normally reside in the "heavenly realm" but can cross over and visit us when God feels it necessary.

I do not believe God created any of the biological "higher life forms" in our realm of reality to populate distant planets. That would assume either God directly created those life forms or they arose spontaneously and naturalisticly via abiogenesis, a chemical evolutionary process, that just happened to produce life (as told in one of the "just so" stories of evolutionists for which there is NO real evidence is possible, much less probable).
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I strongly believe God created other life forms on other planets and believe the universe is abundance of life. I don't belive they are with Sin either as some of them i believe existed long before God made our Earth and our Adam and Eve. For some reason out of all the races in the universe Stan choose to pick on us, maybe its because we are Gods special race.
 
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I strongly believe God created other life forms on other planets and believe the universe is abundance of life. I don't belive they are with Sin either as some of them i believe existed long before God made our Earth and our Adam and Eve. For some reason out of all the races in the universe Stan choose to pick on us, maybe its because we are Gods special race.
On the other hand one must also acknowledge that such belief for the moment is entirely without real evidence. Though on the other hand the universe does seem remarkably large if the sole purpose was to support life on this blue dot. It would be an extravagant overspend even by government standards. None the less God is given to extravagance, he did roll out a huge choir of Angels to tell a few shepherds 'that's my boy'. At the time of the record of creation we have in Genesis the consideration of life beyond earth had not been considered, and the stars were though to be lights in the dark canvas of the sky, not far off distant suns in other solar systems. I don't think that the Bible gives us a firm position to hold here (though I suspect I am about to be shot down). What is amazing is not that God love's only me, but that God loves me.
 
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On the other hand one must also acknowledge that such belief for the moment is entirely without real evidence.

Even without the evidence of ET himself, everything points towards us not being alone. Its the most logical and intelligent conclusion judging by the size of the universe and the fact that we are starting to discover that earth is not even unique. Amount of planets being found in possible habitable zones suggest that we may not even be alone in our own Milky Way galaxy. the odds of us being alone would be several trillion trillon to 1. Plus you also have to fatcor in the huge amount of people who have claimed to seen Aliens or UFOS, are they all crazy.

Anyway i think we already have evidence in the bible itself. I am convinced your government and NASA already has evidence.
 
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y'. At the time of the record of creation we have in Genesis the consideration of life beyond earth had not been considered, and the stars were though to be lights in the dark canvas of the sky, not far off distant suns in other solar systems. I don't think that the Bible gives us a firm position to hold here .

It does because we have two thousand years more knowledge and understanding than the bible writers did. There is a lot of what i would consider Alien activity in the bible.
 
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