Satanists

[Chrome]

never mind all this

 

[Chrome]

never mind about this, i have no reason posting this here, i know it will be closed, now that i have read some clarification on the rules.

 

[Mother Vashti]

talk about driving 600 miles to find out Disneyland is closed

 

[Fuzzy]

Well, it's still open, although the "official" CF thread on Satanism is still open too, on page four or so of this forum.

 

[TrueQ]

Closed? Is there actually a rule prohibiting satanism in the rules? Even here in the Non-Christian forum? I just skimmed the rules myself, but it seems like it would be allowed, after all, that other 'whats the deal with Satanist' thread wasn't closed.

 

[Fuzzy]

Closed? Is there actually a rule prohibiting satanism in the rules? Even here in the Non-Christian forum?

Specific prohibition against Satanism? No. A rule against the promotion
or advocation of a non-Christian religion? Yes, Rule 5. Saying "here's
what Satanists say about themselves," and citing a text, is a very
different statement than (for EXAMPLE), "Satan RULEZ!!1!!! and will rule
you all unless you become Satanists!" The first is a discussion, the
second is advocacy.

Just speaking as a person on the internet, if the Mods didn't have rules,
it would be rather...cuthroat in here. If they get into specifics on every
rule, then people can find a loophole, AND there would be hundreds of
rules rather than 7 for the forum and a set for the chatbox.

I must adit curiosity regarding the OP.

 

[markie]

Aw comeon, I won't tell if you won't. I mean we trash Islam, we should be able to trash your religion too. In fact if you don't worship Yahweh, God, you are worshiping Satan, but that's just my opiinion.

 

[markie]

Specific prohibition against Satanism? No. A rule against the promotion
or advocation of a non-Christian religion? Yes, Rule 5. Saying "here's
what Satanists say about themselves," and citing a text, is a very
different statement than (for EXAMPLE), "Satan RULEZ!!1!!! and will rule
you all unless you become Satanists!" The first is a discussion, the
second is advocacy.

Just speaking as a person on the internet, if the Mods didn't have rules,
it would be rather...cuthroat in here. If they get into specifics on every
rule, then people can find a loophole, AND there would be hundreds of
rules rather than 7 for the forum and a set for the chatbox.

I must adit curiosity regarding the OP.

Satan RULEZ!!1!!! and will
you all unless you become Satanists!" What willl happen if you do become a satanist? Will he not rule you the?

 

[Fuzzy]

Aw comeon, I won't tell if you won't. I mean we trash Islam, we should be able to trash your religion too. In fact if you don't worship God, you are worshiping Satan, but that's just my oppiinion.

It's not just your opinion, it's your microcosm. For someone whose
worship is outside the influence of Judeo-Christianity or Islam, the name "Satan"
would carry about as much weight as "Hamlet, Prince of Denmark,"
or "Clifford the Big Red Dog" or "Colonel Mustard." It would be a literary
reference, much like a Pagan who follows the Greek pantheon worships
a deity or deities that you might hold in a "mythology/literature" view.

There are other threads in this forum that are still open. Perhaps your
"trashing" has been doled out in there, perhaps not.

 

[Fac3less]

"Aw comeon, I won't tell if you won't. I mean we trash Islam, we should be able to trash your religion too. In fact if you don't worship God, you are worshiping Satan, but that's just my oppiinion."

Um, "we" - don't use we. you, sure.

Thanks...
I don't trash anyone.

 

[Fuzzy]

Satan RULEZ!!1!!! and will
you all unless you become Satanists!" What willl happen if you do become a satanist? Will he not rule you the?

1. I'm not a Satanist, I'm not advocating Satanism, and wrote that as
an example.

2. If Satan, if he exists, were put in a position of authority, how he ruled
certain subsets of the populace might depend on how he felt about them
or they felt about him. For the opposition, or those who refuse to submit, he might be rather despotic, cruel, etc. For the loyal followers and supporters,
he might be more of a Hobbesian Leviathan, the populace gives up certain
rights in exchange for certain benefits of his rule. He's still the ruler in
either case, but the former get diddly while the latter get some sort of perk.
But this is all hypothetical. Whether there would be a perk under Satan's
rule or not would only be known once he started ruling.

 

[markie]

"Aw comeon, I won't tell if you won't. I mean we trash Islam, we should be able to trash your religion too. In fact if you don't worship God, you are worshiping Satan, but that's just my oppiinion."

Um, "we" - don't use we. you, sure.

Thanks...
I don't trash anyone.

I was just joking, on another thread collided stop all this Islam is a violent religion. I read that people were trashing Islam and there used to be more Muslims visiting this site. I'm glad you don't trash anyone, it''s stupid and counterproductive. How does somebody expect to win somebody to Christ by telling them they're worshipping the devil? They are just as committed to their religion as we are to ours and if people have been telling them their God is a devil I'm surprised there are any Muslims here at all. We might think that, but I think that's what can be called the meat of the word 1 Corinthians 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
Maybe I wasn't joking, I was mad when I read it.

 

[TrueQ]

Indeed so Markie, and it seems that a lot of the missionaries I stumble across are heavy into that sort of argument, it's kind of like quoting bible passages to athiests. Maybe there should be a Conversion Aptitude Test or something.

I'm a bit curious about the OP myself, come on man, repost and lets see what you have to say?

 

[boughtwithaprice]

don't know what the OP had in mind, but I would be curious myself. Interest never really piqued in the offcial thread, but the discussion started to get interesting.

Y'all got anything to say? questions? thoughts?

 

[markie]

never mind all this

I think this could be an interesting discussion. I am a Christian, but I am interested in all religions. I don't believe in Allah, but I am interested in Islam. I don't believe in Hinduism but I am interested in their religion as well, and just because I am interested in it doesn't mean I want to convert. I am just a little bit curious as to how they got to be religions in the first place..

 

[markie]

1. I'm not a Satanist, I'm not advocating Satanism, and wrote that as
an example.

2. If Satan, if he exists, were put in a position of authority, how he ruled
certain subsets of the populace might depend on how he felt about them
or they felt about him. For the opposition, or those who refuse to submit, he might be rather despotic, cruel, etc. For the loyal followers and supporters,
he might be more of a Hobbesian Leviathan, the populace gives up certain
rights in exchange for certain benefits of his rule. He's still the ruler in
either case, but the former get diddly while the latter get some sort of perk.
But this is all hypothetical. Whether there would be a perk under Satan's
rule or not would only be known once he started ruling.

I didn't think you were. I shoudn't have quoted you, I'm sorrry if you misinterpreted my post. I knew that was an example.

 

[markie]

It's not just your opinion, it's your microcosm. For someone whose
worship is outside the influence of Judeo-Christianity or Islam, the name "Satan"
would carry about as much weight as "Hamlet, Prince of Denmark,"
or "Clifford the Big Red Dog" or "Colonel Mustard." It would be a literary
reference, much like a Pagan who follows the Greek pantheon worships
a deity or deities that you might hold in a "mythology/literature" view.

There are other threads in this forum that are still open. Perhaps your
"trashing" has been doled out in there, perhaps not.

I try to respect all religions, but will not compromise on my own. In my previous post I was refering to most Christians when I said we.

 

[Fuzzy]

I'm cool with everything you've said, markie, really. In the interest of
satisfying your questions regarding Satanism, I do politely suggest you
read the two threads on it elsewhere in the non-Christian forum. Your
curiosities or questions regarding Satanism (traditional and/or LaVey) may have
already been answered there. Me, I'm gonna be like Fonzie. And how's Fonzie?
Fonzie's cool.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

Me, I'm gonna be like Fonzie. And how's Fonzie?
Fonzie's cool.

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides................


oh never mind, just memories of Samuel L Jackson

 

[Isis-Astoroth]

What is this thread actually about?