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Isaiah4031nc101 said:
There are many in here that has came out a pagen religion that are not rejected as you say. And as I go back to read some of the threads in here the statement made about wisdom being a goddess, meant that it was use in a femine since does not make since to me its wisdom I dont think it was ever render to call the goddess. But ant way I have not rejected azzy and really have not seen anyone do that to him. And again I dont see anything wrong and matter fact its great some people are tring to reach pagens. But some thing are not right and we have to seek the guidence of the Holy Ghost in these matters. but with the idea that some may be justifing that he fellowship and except the things other relious teach and the things they practice is not justifiable. Example if that is the way we should do hings the in order to seek out our ministry is to find something that we are conformable with and apply our self to it, then that being the case maybe some of us can want to reach the porno industery, and just go hang out with them durning their shoots and pray in Jesus Name while they are doing their thing. again the Bible in 2 cor 6 tells us to come out from amoung them. Paul after his conversion didnt go back and hang out with the religious leaders that he did before hand. If azzy was a pagen/witch and has got saved and delivered from that Praise God! and if he is saved and still into that then God help him. Again my concern is, an was and has always been, that he not get so close to that. Cause if you pick up snakes long enough ones going bite you>
i think that same point has been made countless/numerous times now. i am certain that he has heard it. He is wounded now by all the attacks( eg. one beloved brother even said ..."God doesnt love him") i dont blame him for not wanting to come back here...i admit i am also dissappointed, knowing how rejected WOF themselves are throughout the Body of Christ, i thought WOF would be the ones who would understand about rejection and desire to embrace azzy with love and mentor him. Sorry but the spirit in the posts has generally not been as Gracious & Encouraging etc. as i had hoped.:sigh::prayer: :groupray:
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This is where the misunderstandings start. Nobody judged him and nobody rejected him. We love him and everything that we wrote was to help him and to open his eyes.

According to him, he was already saved and went into MW in order to witness. Instead, he got pulled under and is being taught by them. He is going backwards.

That bare fact is that the path he is following is going to cause so much pain and heartache. I know. I deal with the aftermath everyday. He is going to get hurt. The more invlolved with these demon he gets the more of a hold they are going to have on him and the harder it is going to break free of.

The Lord reproves those He loves and so do we. That does not mean that we turn a blind eye and not speak what the Lord lays on our hearts to speak.

If we didn't care we wouldn't say a thing and let him go his merry way to hell. Why can't you and whats her name realize that what we have written was done in love.

Here are a couple of testimonies from Exwitches that will explain more than I ever could and this is what we are trying to save him from.

http://exwitch.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7481&sid=48e7f0ba335dd1ff92f88cdc96d65857

http://www.geocities.com/diamond6bride/mytestimony.pdf

http://exwitch.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10772

http://exwitch.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11771

http://paganandchristianmoot.co.uk/pcvbforum/showthread.php?t=1826

http://www.exwitch.org/cms/mod.php?mod=userpage&menu=1613&page_id=116
 
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amdntstr said:
This is where the misunderstandings start. Nobody judged him and nobody rejected him. We love him and everything that we wrote was to help him and to open his eyes.

According to him, he was already saved and went into MW in order to witness. Instead, he got pulled under and is being taught by them. He is going backwards.

That bare fact is that the path he is following is going to cause so much pain and heartache. I know. I deal with the aftermath everyday. He is going to get hurt. The more invlolved with these demon he gets the more of a hold they are going to have on him and the harder it is going to break free of.

The Lord reproves those He loves and so do we. That does not mean that we turn a blind eye and not speak what the Lord lays on our hearts to speak.

If we didn't care we wouldn't say a thing and let him go his merry way to hell. Why can't you and whats her name realize that what we have written was done in love.

Here are a couple of testimonies from Exwitches that will explain more than I ever could and this is what we are trying to save him from.

http://exwitch.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7481&sid=48e7f0ba335dd1ff92f88cdc96d65857

http://www.geocities.com/diamond6bride/mytestimony.pdf

http://exwitch.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10772

http://exwitch.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11771

http://paganandchristianmoot.co.uk/pcvbforum/t1826

http://www.exwitch.org/cms/mod.php?mod=userpage&menu=1613&page_id=116
Beloved, let me ask you one question...is it what 'you do' that saves you or what Christ did, ALONE?

Non of us are 'there yet' and none of us will be until we are with The Lord. He loves us all in spite of our sin. And if you commit one sin say 'lust' you have committed them all which includes witchcraft.
Azzy's heart is right before The Lord and that is what counts. Remember the story about the tax collector and the Religious leader who followed the law, which one enters the kingdom first?:holy:

Azzy is learning and growing and his heart is right befor the Lord! He is filled with the fruit of the Holy Spirit! There are many things you do not know about the situation.

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Here let me share a little bit about myself.

I grew up in a "christian" home. We were in church every time the doors were opened. my parents were and have always been "leaders" in the churches we went to. I grew up hearing a lot of Word. I never fit in at church. I am shy and I have panic attacks whenever I was around groups of people. My mind would just shut off and I could never think of anything to say. Because of this I was treated as if I was stupid or even stuck up. I wanted to fit in so bad that


I was taught about God but lived in hell. Even after I escaped I kept going back. Why? Because I would forgive them and think that this time it would be different.

The last straw was that my mother had my son taken away because I left the church. I was mad at God. I hated Him for not being there for me. I decided that I would go to the enemy, Satan. I figured that God was a liar. I never doubted that He existed, but that He was a liar who wouldn't keep His own word. If He wouldn't protect me then He wouldn't protect them either.

I grew up believeing that all witchcraft was satanism. I now know that most are deceived into believeing that satan doesn't even exist. That they are worshipping loving gods and goddesses. The one thing that didn't escape my notice was the fact that it worked. I wanted revenge. I wanted to make them pay for the pain that they caused me throughout my life.

The funny thing is, no matter how I tried to convince myself that I was not worshipping demons and satan I couldn't get past that.

The Word that I was "force fed" in my earlier years stuck with me. Because of it, I had this block in my path. I finally got to the point where I had no choice but to go back to God.

Why? Because of the Word. It is that simple. The Word of God is alive and breaths. The seeds that were sown so many years ago stuck with me. Now those seeds are blosoming and I now thank God for every last verse I was taught, no matter how much grumbling I did while it was being taught.

That is what we are doing here. We are planting the seeds with the hope that it never leaves him. I hope that it makes him uncomfortable. I hope that it grows so much that it becomes a block in his path, like it was in mine.

He knows that I am always here. He knows where my site is. He knows that I minister to exwitches and that he can get the straight honest truth from me. He knows that I love him with the Love of Christ. He knows that I am always willing to help him. He knows where to find me when he has had enough and is crying out for help. He knows that I will never turn my back on him. He knows that he has friends that understand and are more than willing to help him.

That is the reason I am here. That is the reason I have spoken what I have spoken. This is what God wants me to do and I am obedient to Him. I am not always perfect, but my heart belongs to God. God knows the intents of my heart, and He is very pleased with me. That is all that matters.

Love Deb.
 
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followjesus777 said:
Beloved, let me ask you one question...is it what 'you do' that saves you or what Christ did, ALONE?

Christ dying is what saved me. But it is what I do that insures that my spirit goes to heaven. It is complete obedience to God and a willingness to follow His Word that keeps me right with God. You have to cintinue to grow. If I died while I was backsliden, I would not have gone to heaven. If I died while I was a so-so christian, I would not have gone to Heaven. If I died today, I would. I am not perfect, far from it. But I repent everyday of my sins. Repent means to turn away from sin and try your best not to do it anymore. If your are still going to places that is pulling you backwards, then that is not repenting. If you put yourself in a position to be taought that which is clearly against God that is not repenting. You have to make a concious effert to turn your back on sin.
 
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Here let me share a little bit about myself.

I grew up in a "christian" home. We were in church every time the doors were opened. my parents were and have always been "leaders" in the churches we went to. I grew up hearing a lot of Word. I never fit in at church. I am shy and I have panic attacks whenever I was around groups of people. My mind would just shut off and I could never think of anything to say. Because of this I was treated as if I was stupid or even stuck up. I wanted to fit in so bad that


I was taught about God but lived in hell. Even after I escaped I kept going back. Why? Because I would forgive them and think that this time it would be different.

The last straw was that my mother had my son taken away because I left the church. I was mad at God. I hated Him for not being there for me. I decided that I would go to the enemy, Satan. I figured that God was a liar. I never doubted that He existed, but that He was a liar who wouldn't keep His own word. If He wouldn't protect me then He wouldn't protect them either.

I grew up believeing that all witchcraft was satanism. I now know that most are deceived into believeing that satan doesn't even exist. That they are worshipping loving gods and goddesses. The one thing that didn't escape my notice was the fact that it worked. I wanted revenge. I wanted to make them pay for the pain that they caused me throughout my life.

The funny thing is, no matter how I tried to convince myself that I was not worshipping demons and satan I couldn't get past that.

The Word that I was "force fed" in my earlier years stuck with me. Because of it, I had this block in my path. I finally got to the point where I had no choice but to go back to God.

Why? Because of the Word. It is that simple. The Word of God is alive and breaths. The seeds that were sown so many years ago stuck with me. Now those seeds are blosoming and I now thank God for every last verse I was taught, no matter how much grumbling I did while it was being taught.

That is what we are doing here. We are planting the seeds with the hope that it never leaves him. I hope that it makes him uncomfortable. I hope that it grows so much that it becomes a block in his path, like it was in mine.

He knows that I am always here. He knows where my site is. He knows that I minister to exwitches and that he can get the straight honest truth from me. He knows that I love him with the Love of Christ. He knows that I am always willing to help him. He knows where to find me when he has had enough and is crying out for help. He knows that I will never turn my back on him. He knows that he has friends that understand and are more than willing to help him.

That is the reason I am here. That is the reason I have spoken what I have spoken. This is what God wants me to do and I am obedient to Him. I am not always perfect, but my heart belongs to God. God knows the intents of my heart, and He is very pleased with me. That is all that matters.

Love Deb.
Yes sister, yes, God bless you i know your intentions are good at heart.

But has azzy been coming to you and pming you and to your site, asking you questions and interested in learning and growing by your mentoring him? i wonder why.:sigh:

PTL Jesus, He does have a one believer that actually demonstrates Christs gentle love to him and that he emails and asks questions and is willing to listen to. i just wish there were more that were willing to be patient and kind and just love on him like Christ intended.

In the Lords timing with the Lord's grace and gentle leading, azzy will perfect his faith just like you and me. Are any of us done growing and learning and refining our faith?

God bless you sister, i ask that you pray to the Lord about the things i have shared with you.
Love in Christ,:groupray: PTL Jesus!:prayer:
lyn
 
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followjesus777 said:
Yes sister, yes, God bless you i know your intentions are good at heart.

Yes, they are.

But has azzy been coming to you and pming you and to your site, asking you questions and interested in learning and growing by your mentoring him? i wonder why.:sigh:

A couple reasons actually.
1. The Word is causing him discomfort.
2. He is not ready to leave his current path yet.
 
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amdntstr said:
Yes, they are.



A couple reasons actually.
1. The Word is causing him discomfort.
2. He is not ready to leave his current path yet.
You are missing the point, you have lost your opportunity to be a witness to him and mentor him.

Did Christ throw the book at the woman caught in sin, Did He 'join the gang' with the stones and accuse her and feel the NEED TO ACCUSE correct and punish her publicly NO! Jesus pointed the finger back at those who were pointing at her ready to stone her and by doing so, loved her and stood up for her and so she listened to Him.
i know you mean well but i ask that you please pray about the things ive shared with you in The Name of Jesus i ask you.:holy: :prayer: :amen: :bow:
God bless you sister,
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followjesus777 said:
Beloved, let me ask you one question...is it what 'you do' that saves you or what Christ did, ALONE?

Non of us are 'there yet' and none of us will be until we are with The Lord. He loves us all in spite of our sin. And if you commit one sin say 'lust' you have committed them all which includes witchcraft.
Azzy's heart is right before The Lord and that is what counts. Remember the story about the tax collector and the Religious leader who followed the law, which one enters the kingdom first?:holy:

Azzy is learning and growing and his heart is right befor the Lord! He is filled with the fruit of the Holy Spirit! There are many things you do not know about the situation.

JESUS IS LORD!
The thing that sets us apart is love for he brethen, The Bible says that how you know that you have passed from life unto death. Fruits of the spirit are characterstics of the experience of salavtion, but mind you that the lost can posse those characterstics as well. And, Non of us are 'there yet' and none of us will be until we are with The Lord. When you see Jesus deliver some one for some things He instructed them to go and sin no more. Mysticwicks is not a place for the believe to " grow in the Lord" Quoting pagen prayers is not the way to strenghten your faith. as for azzy he would be welcome in our church. He would be free to worship God but not to bring in pagen theology and chanting speels. I am sorry that it seems so unsentive to you. I still believe he needs to seprsate himself from the group and strenghten his faith around like minded thinks(based on the Wrd of God). Sense you can not figure out why we dont agree with still dabbling in the occult and still growing your heart for the Lord,you justify why he can By the Word of God.
1 John 2:15-16 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. http://www.christianforums.com/#_ftn1
http://www.christianforums.com/#_ftnref1
 
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You are missing the point, you have lost your opportunity to be a witness to him and mentor him.

Did Christ throw the book at the woman caught in sin, Did He join the gang with the stones and accuse her and feel the NEED TO CORRECT her NO! He pointed the finger back at those who were pointing at her ready to stone her and loved her and stood up for her and so she listened to Him.
i know you mean well but i ask that you please pray about the things ive shared with you in The Name of Jesus i ask you.:holy: :prayer: :amen: :bow:
God bless you sister,
lyn
He told her that He didnt condemn her and to go sin no more.
 
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Isaiah4031nc101 said:
He told her that He didnt condemn her and to go sin no more.

BEFORE He said that 'privatly' to her, HE PUBLICLY DEFENDED HER...Jesus did not accuse or correct her with condemnation in agreement with 'the accusers' in a public manner!

He did NOT join those who were ready to stone her, He showed them their own sin...and as a result later she was willing to listen to him 'privatly' because he actually demonstsrated love to her ...
Jesus DID NOT accuse her publicly with a spirit of CONDEMNATION!:prayer:

"walk as Jesus walked"!:holy:
Please pray about this!IJN AMEN!
 
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BEFORE He said that 'privatly' to her, HE PUBLICLY DEFENDED HER...Jesus did not accuse or correct her with condemnation in agreement with 'the accusers' in a public manner!

He did NOT join those who were ready to stone her, He showed them their own sin...and as a result later she was willing to listen to him 'privatly' because he actually demonstsrated love to her ...
Jesus DID NOT accuse her publicly with a spirit of CONDEMNATION!:prayer:

"walk as Jesus walked"!:holy:
Please pray about this!IJN AMEN!
Again I have told you I have not condemned this man. Let me ask you a question did God save you.
? And when he did what were you delivered from? Did you after recievibg salvation continue in the same old things He brought you from. I have read this mans blogs, one he posted yesterday I think begins with a chant to a pagen cat figure, so you tell me how tring to reach out to him and share the Word to help him gain understand of God's way is judgemental. God told Phillip talk to an etiophian man on his have to the temple phillip ask him what he was reading his reply was the book of Isaiah, Phillip ask him them did he understand what it was he was reading, the mans reply was no how can I unless an man show me. Phillip was condemning this man for not understanding the book of Isaiah, he was simply responsed to the will of God, but you see the difference in the etoiphian man is that he was teachable concerning the Word of God. Just because some one doesnt agree with every thing people do first assunption is they are being judgemental. That my dear sister is not the case, of course some folks are in their opnions. But I have dont seen it here. And what would be your Biblical advice to him, Just try the best you can it will all work out. To many easy answers to difficult problems. I am praying for this guy. but I cant tell him that being apart of the movement and trying to serve God is going to work out, because , then I would be lying to him, So which of the two should I do or any one else in here. Can't you hear the torment and confuss he is going through you know why cause the is a spiritual battle taking place. This mans soul is in the balance. I mine really, when we get saved why not just continue to do the things that you once did until you can over come them. I guess drug addicts should still do drugs drunks should still drink so were is the change supose to talk place? Is there a change. The believes life is suppose to be in line with the scripture when its not then we are not in line with God. And yes to your statement about Jesus not publicly condemning her He didnt condemn her but He did point out her faults, go sin no more. That was an acknowledgement of some thing wrong. And the context I think in the part is that the Pharesses were testing the Lord, where was the man she was caught with, it was a chance for them to test Him and they made the most of it and He called them down. But you dont see Him tell her to go back and do the best you can He told her to sin no more. Their action and my are ot the same, nor do I think anyone elses in this thread are of that nature. Grant you though this fellow needs help and support but satan will never allow him to get it.
 
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FollowJesus are you mentoring him? If you are then get himmout of there for his sake. I read what has ben written and Isiah is right on, he has been there, I have worked witrh people that were there, he must cut himself off from this not only because its wrong but also because God has told him to do so. It is in lovew that we say these things to him in the most loving way possible but at times God says things hard out of love because the direction they are going in is destruction. That is his direction as it was and I hope he listened to God. As I said before I would talk to him, I pray for him. I love him as Christ loved but he is in a dangerous place for him. If you can reach him then reach him.
 
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FollowJesus are you mentoring him? If you are then get himmout of there for his sake. I read what has ben written and Isiah is right on, he has been there, I have worked witrh people that were there, he must cut himself off from this not only because its wrong but also because God has told him to do so. It is in lovew that we say these things to him in the most loving way possible but at times God says things hard out of love because the direction they are going in is destruction. That is his direction as it was and I hope he listened to God. As I said before I would talk to him, I pray for him. I love him as Christ loved but he is in a dangerous place for him. If you can reach him then reach him.

Amen. I am still praying for him.
 
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Again I have told you I have not condemned this man. Let me ask you a question did God save you.
? And when he did what were you delivered from? Did you after recievibg salvation continue in the same old things He brought you from. I have read this mans blogs, one he posted yesterday I think begins with a chant to a pagen cat figure, so you tell me how tring to reach out to him and share the Word to help him gain understand of God's way is judgemental. God told Phillip talk to an etiophian man on his have to the temple phillip ask him what he was reading his reply was the book of Isaiah, Phillip ask him them did he understand what it was he was reading, the mans reply was no how can I unless an man show me. Phillip was condemning this man for not understanding the book of Isaiah, he was simply responsed to the will of God, but you see the difference in the etoiphian man is that he was teachable concerning the Word of God. Just because some one doesnt agree with every thing people do first assunption is they are being judgemental. That my dear sister is not the case, of course some folks are in their opnions. But I have dont seen it here. And what would be your Biblical advice to him, Just try the best you can it will all work out. To many easy answers to difficult problems. I am praying for this guy. but I cant tell him that being apart of the movement and trying to serve God is going to work out, because , then I would be lying to him, So which of the two should I do or any one else in here. Can't you hear the torment and confuss he is going through you know why cause the is a spiritual battle taking place. This mans soul is in the balance. I mine really, when we get saved why not just continue to do the things that you once did until you can over come them. I guess drug addicts should still do drugs drunks should still drink so were is the change supose to talk place? Is there a change. The believes life is suppose to be in line with the scripture when its not then we are not in line with God. And yes to your statement about Jesus not publicly condemning her He didnt condemn her but He did point out her faults, go sin no more. That was an acknowledgement of some thing wrong. And the context I think in the part is that the Pharesses were testing the Lord, where was the man she was caught with, it was a chance for them to test Him and they made the most of it and He called them down. But you dont see Him tell her to go back and do the best you can He told her to sin no more. Their action and my are ot the same, nor do I think anyone elses in this thread are of that nature. Grant you though this fellow needs help and support but satan will never allow him to get it.


Brother, i have asked you to pray about this to the Lord, i have already done so.
In answer to your question NO, i was not immediatly delievered from all sin the day i was saved, and neither is anyone it is a lifetime of refinement as one walks with the Holy Spirit...As i said b4 if one commits one sins one commits them all. Are you saying you have not sinned once since the day you became a believer?

Did you notice that Azzy changed his profile 2 times? He is listening to The Holy Spirit from inside himself and also the one soul that is lovingly mentoring him.

Some precious well intentioned believers have said they are trying to "save azzy from hell" etc. Rubbish! Azzy is already saved By his faith in Jesus Christ and The precious Blood which is the ONLY THING that saves us! He is growing and growing day by day!PTL Jesus!:amen:

Azzy loves Jesus! Jesus through The Holy Spirit is quite capable of refining and perfecting azzy's faith IN THE LORD'S TIMING because azzy's heart is right with God. Azzy is humble and willing to learn from those who are walking in Christ's love...forgiveness, mercy, patience, gentleness, kindness etc

i ask again in The Name of Jesus, that you will humbly pray and ask the Lord HIMSELF to show you, if these things i share are Truth. i pray and believe in faith that many can learn a great deal from this thread.PTL Jesus! Amen!:amen: :prayer: :holy: :groupray:

PATIENCE BRETHERN is a fruit of the Holy Spirit...the one who is mentoring is working in the Lord's timing not ours!
 
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Sister i appreciate what you are saying and I pray that it is the Holy Spirit perfecting his faith and that all you say is true. I sincerely believe that what I got was from the Holy Spirit as well so one of us is wrong and I sincerely hope it is me for Azzys sake.
 
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bill16652 said:
Sister i appreciate what you are saying and I pray that it is the Holy Spirit perfecting his faith and that all you say is true. I sincerely believe that what I got was from the Holy Spirit as well so one of us is wrong and I sincerely hope it is me for Azzys sake.
Thankyou and God bless you for your humility... i see the fruit of the Holy Spirit in you Brother. We both believe what we share is from the Holy Spirit Brother. The Lord knows our hearts.

Have you ever heard the saying that "the Lord gently lovingly leads and the devil pushes and accuses"...

We must be PATIENT and have FAITH....YOU WILL see the Holy Spirit working "only believe"...and Jesus said ..."where is your faith":amen: :groupray: Prayer is welcomed!;)
 
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