Satanic Oppression?

[followjesus777]

I have been reading this messages for two days now. And I would liketo comment on the matter if I may. I have listened to azzy. A few things that does bother me in his writing, The " pagens freind " you talk about, it does sound to me that there world is your world. 2 Cor 6: 17 says come out from amoung them read the verses before that. John tells us that we know that we have eternal life because we love the brethern not the pagen. You have yet to say any thing good about the Church only the mysticwicks. You call christians in here hypercrites but call them humble loving people, you take the concern that some one has for you and is tring to bring you to some understanding and call them hypercrite. I have not even heard you share how you were bringing them out of this bondage or even testify how they have left this ungodly practice to serve God. You have said that they make fun of your prayers but they still except you?, you are a part of them? If you are a christian you are in real danger! You dont posses the power walk up into the devil den and think you can go and start moving his furnature around I really dont think it works that way. Jesus can do it but you cant. Miniter to them yes share the Word with them Of course rellowship with them not hardly, 2 Cor 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? I know a man when I was going to seminery, before we could graduate we had to write a paper on a subject on any subject such as, occults sin, pornagraphy etc... This man had a passion for street people and prostetutes. He choice to write his paper on he dangers and affcts of porno. He spent months researching the subject, interveiw porno stars mag, writes prosetutes, he got really deep in it. One day he pulls into a parking lot and waits for a 15 tyr old girl to come out he jumps out pulls her into his car and rapes her, the point being some things christians dont need to get into because it oppens doors that are full of demons. Fellowshipping with witches and satanist is not a good thing my freind, It only opens up door.Who do you or even us think that you are, Micheal the Arch angel wouldnt even go up against the devil. Do you really believe that you are stronger than that. Satan is powerful, the great liar and deciever, I know my limits I have enough trouble with him I surely dont go looking for more. As I shared the last time yes Jesus did eat with the sinners and publicians but he never excepted them or did He become a part of them. Another thing that you said really bothers me, offering prayers to you?? Only God is the one they are offered up to.

Yes i agree with what you say sister..."love the brethern"..."lay down your life for your brother"
...there is no greater love than this...
"Honor ALL men"
But we must all start somewhere and we are all underconstruction of the Holy Spirit sister!
We must demonstrate the fruits to those who come!
Speaking truth while demonstrating love to all those who come! Yes !
Patience(a fruit!)
God bless you sister for your kindness and patience!PTL Jesus!

 

[Catherineanne]

But how can you tell if there is a satanic oppression in a place? There's obviously no witchcraft or anything there; which leaves no "entrances" for demonic powers. Irritating doctrine certainly, but they at least claim to be Christian.

Thoughts anyone?

I am disturbed that you think you know about witchcraft, and demonic powers. Why do you 'know' these things?

I would advise anyone who has thoughts of this kind to put them out of their heads. We are not called to be children of darkness, but children of God. As such I think it is not appropriate to go looking for satan, or satanic this or that anywhere. If you focus on satan, then you are giving him attention. Like it or not, that is satan worship.

Raise your eyes to God, and place all your attention there. Praise God, and thank him for all his blessings in your life. If it is hard to find blessings, then look harder.

As for denigrating anyone of pagan beliefs, I think we would be far better off contemplating our own sins, rather than throwing stones at other people. It is not calling oneself a witch that will result in separation from God. It is judging other people before oneself, and causing them to stumble in their walk with God.

There is a vast amount of Christian prayer, said every day in some churches, which has a lot more to do with invoking magic by incantations such as 'by the blood of the Lamb', than with finding the will of God, and following it.

 

[Catherineanne]

Speaking truth while demonstrating love to all those who come!

My own view would be, demonstrate love. That is how Christians are made known to the world.

Forget about speaking the truth, unless it is done in and out of love. The truth sometimes hurts, and if you truly love someone, you will be careful how much truth you tell them. We can none of us bear the whole truth about ourselves, can we?

 

[followjesus777]

My own view would be, demonstrate love. That is how Christians are made known to the world.

Forget about speaking the truth, unless it is done in and out of love. The truth sometimes hurts, and if you truly love someone, you will be careful how much truth you tell them. We can none of us bear the whole truth about ourselves, can we?

(((AMEN!!!))) sister and i agree!
God bless you sister in great measure for your kindness!
While it is VITAL to share the Gospel it MUST be done in love...for anyone who is watching you know who you are...
PLEASE consider doing a study on love from the scriptures, all the 'love' scriptures in the bible it will bring you closer to the Lord than you ever thought imaginable! i pray and believe in faith that may COMPLETELY CHANGE YOUR WALK...growing evermore in His Grace and Love!PTL Jesus!
!Jesus is Lord! NON of us are 'there yet'!

 

[Lostandconfused]

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As for denigrating anyone of pagan beliefs, I think we would be far better off contemplating our own sins, rather than throwing stones at other people. It is not calling oneself a witch that will result in separation from God. It is judging other people before oneself, and causing them to stumble in their walk with God.

Witchcraft and not hearing the Word and not repenting will separate you from God. How can you say that it will not? We are born separated from God. The only way to God is to follow Jesus and in order to follow Jesus you MUST follow His Words.

Paul says not to hold our peace.

Acts 18:
9 Then spake the Lord to Paul in the night by a vision, Be not afraid, but speak, and hold not thy peace:
10 For I am with thee, and no man shall set on thee to hurt thee: for I have much people in this city.

Nobody here had denigraded anybody. As I said before, if I didn't care I would have kept my mouth shut. Besides, why come in here if he didn't wish to hear the Word?

Now as far as correcting:

Galatians 6:1-10
1 Brethren, even if anyone is caught in any trespass, you who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; each one looking to yourself, so that you too will not be tempted.
2 Bear one another's burdens, and thereby fulfill the law of Christ.
3 For if anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4 But each one must examine his own work, and then he will have reason for boasting in regard to himself alone, and not in regard to another.
5 For each one will bear his own load.
6 The one who is taught the word is to share all good things with the one who teaches him.
7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.
8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.
9 Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary.
10 So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.


Those who are God's hear the Word and repent, those who are not God's hear the Word and do not repent.


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Luke 8:[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]20 And it was told him by certain which said, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to see thee. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]John 14:

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. [/FONT]


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Speaking the Word is not denigrading anybody. You can not serve two masters. Nobody is causeing him to stumble, he has fallen in head first on his own. Those of us here who care enough to try and help him are trying to pull him out of the fire.

Jude 1:
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

Nobody hates azzy, we are trying to save him. Worshipping pagan goddesses and practicing witchcraft will separate you from God.

Talking about judging.........is that not what you are trying to do? Judge my heart? Only God can judge the heart, we are however, to judge works and words.
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[Lostandconfused]

My own view would be, demonstrate love. That is how Christians are made known to the world.

Forget about speaking the truth, unless it is done in and out of love. The truth sometimes hurts, and if you truly love someone, you will be careful how much truth you tell them. We can none of us bear the whole truth about ourselves, can we?

We have spoken the truth out of love. It from knowing the pain that comes from the path that he is going down that causes me to speak what I have spoken. I will not water down the truth nor will I "hold my peace".

I hated every moment that my parents made me go to church. Later on when I was faced with the problems that come from following a different path, I thanked God for every last peice of Word that was spoken to me. You never know what will stick.

Nobody has attacked him personally. I have talked against his practices, but not him. My son may do some bad things, but he is never bad. Same here. His practices are evil, he is not. He is loved so much by God.

Love is not always kind. The truth is not always kind. As I said in another thread, You do not have to use the Word as a sword for it to be a sword.

 

[Isaiah4031nc101]

Witchcraft and not hearing the Word and not repenting will separate you from God. How can you say that it will not? We are born separated from God. The only way to God is to follow Jesus and in order to follow Jesus you MUST follow His Words.

Paul says not to hold our peace.

Acts 18:
9 Then spake the Lord to Paul in the night by a vision, Be not afraid, but speak, and hold not thy peace:
10 For I am with thee, and no man shall set on thee to hurt thee: for I have much people in this city.

Nobody here had denigraded anybody. As I said before, if I didn't care I would have kept my mouth shut. Besides, why come in here if he didn't wish to hear the Word?

Now as far as correcting:

Galatians 6:1-10
1 Brethren, even if anyone is caught in any trespass, you who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; each one looking to yourself, so that you too will not be tempted.
2 Bear one another's burdens, and thereby fulfill the law of Christ.
3 For if anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4 But each one must examine his own work, and then he will have reason for boasting in regard to himself alone, and not in regard to another.
5 For each one will bear his own load.
6 The one who is taught the word is to share all good things with the one who teaches him.
7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.
8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.
9 Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary.
10 So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.


Those who are God's hear the Word and repent, those who are not God's hear the Word and do not repent.


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Luke 8:[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]20 And it was told him by certain which said, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to see thee. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it. [/FONT]

<B>[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]John 14:

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. [/FONT]



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Speaking the Word is not denigrading anybody. You can not serve two masters. Nobody is causeing him to stumble, he has fallen in head first on his own. Those of us here who care enough to try and help him are trying to pull him out of the fire.

Jude 1:
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

Nobody hates azzy, we are trying to save him. Worshipping pagan goddesses and practicing witchcraft will separate you from God.

Talking about judging.........is that not what you are trying to do? Judge my heart? Only God can judge the heart, we are however, to judge works and words.
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I agree. Even when Jesus was commending the church in Eph, in the 2 chapter of Revelations, He Jesus commended they for testing those that said they were apostles and found them to be liars. There is a difference in lving the sinner and hating he sin. God loves the sinner sent His Son to die for them but He hates the sin.

 

[amdntstr]

Amen!!!

 

[amdntstr]

Jermiah 44:
15 Then all the men which knew that their wives had burned incense unto other gods, and all the women that stood by, a great multitude, even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying,
16 As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the LORD, we will not hearken unto thee.
17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.
18 But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.
19 And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men

20 Then Jeremiah said unto all the people, to the men, and to the women, and to all the people which had given him that answer, saying,
21 The incense that ye burned in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem, ye, and your fathers, your kings, and your princes, and the people of the land, did not the LORD remember them, and came it not into his mind?
22 So that the LORD could no longer bear, because of the evil of your doings, and because of the abominations which ye have committed; therefore is your land a desolation, and an astonishment, and a curse, without an inhabitant, as at this day.
23 Because ye have burned incense, and because ye have sinned against the LORD, and have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, nor walked in his law, nor in his statutes, nor in his testimonies; therefore this evil is happened unto you, as at this day.
24 Moreover Jeremiah said unto all the people, and to all the women, Hear the word of the LORD, all Judah that are in the land of Egypt:
25 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, saying; Ye and your wives have both spoken with your mouths, and fulfilled with your hand, saying, We will surely perform our vows that we have vowed, to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her: ye will surely accomplish your vows, and surely perform your vows.
26 Therefore hear ye the word of the LORD, all Judah that dwell in the land of Egypt; Behold, I have sworn by my great name, saith the LORD, that my name shall no more be named in the mouth of any man of Judah in all the land of Egypt, saying, The Lord GOD liveth.
27 Behold, I will watch over them for evil, and not for good: and all the men of Judah that are in the land of Egypt shall be consumed by the sword and by the famine, until there be an end of them.
28 Yet a small number that escape the sword shall return out of the land of Egypt into the land of Judah, and all the remnant of Judah, that are gone into the land of Egypt to sojourn there, shall know whose words shall stand, mine, or theirs.
29 And this shall be a sign unto you, saith the LORD, that I will punish you in this place, that ye may know that my words shall surely stand against you for evil:

 

[Catherineanne]

Love is not always kind. The truth is not always kind. As I said in another thread, You do not have to use the Word as a sword for it to be a sword.

You are mistaken. If your behaviour does not contain lovingkindness, then it is not love.

Paul describes what love is in Corinthians. And he begins with patient and kind.

 

[Catherineanne]

Witchcraft and not hearing the Word and not repenting will separate you from God. How can you say that it will not?

Nothing can separate us from God, or from his love.

And I will say again, we are called to convict ourselves of sin, not to point the finger at our brothers and sisters, whatever their faith.

Any person who consistently behaves with integrity and love towards their brothers and sisters will enter heaven before so called Christians who see nothing but sinners around them, and hence feel secure in their own superiority. They are the equivalent of the Pharisees condemned by Our Lord, who prevent others from entering heaven, and do not go in themselves.

However, this is a side issue. Keep away from any interest in satanic this that or the other. That is not healthy behaviour for any Christian, imo. I would go further, in fact, and say that anyone who goes to church and hears more about the evil one than about Our Lord should, in my view, find another church as quickly as possible.

 

[psalms 91]

Nothing can separate us from God, or from his love.

And I will say again, we are called to convict ourselves of sin, not to point the finger at our brothers and sisters, whatever their faith.

Any person who consistently behaves with integrity and love towards their brothers and sisters will enter heaven before so called Christians who see nothing but sinners around them, and hence feel secure in their own superiority. They are the equivalent of the Pharisees condemned by Our Lord, who prevent others from entering heaven, and do not go in themselves.

However, this is a side issue. Keep away from any interest in satanic this that or the other. That is not healthy behaviour for any Christian, imo. I would go further, in fact, and say that anyone who goes to church and hears more about the evil one than about Our Lord should, in my view, find another church as quickly as possible.

I agree about showing love and by correcting a brother in love who is in grave error and in danger from satan is love. What I spoke I was given by God and they were not my words which is why I have said nothing more, I can nither add or subtract from that. As christians we are to judge matters, judge the word, and when in fault to correct, yes in love, but sometimes love is not soft, read the prophets of God and you will see that. I pray for this individual fervently as I know what the Lord spoke and how imperative it is he come to the truth. I pray he will come back here and talk more. I love him as CXhrist loved but that means I will not stand silent while he goes down a path to destruction.

 

[amdntstr]

You are mistaken. If your behaviour does not contain lovingkindness, then it is not love.

Paul describes what love is in Corinthians. And he begins with patient and kind.

Paul was not always kind in his letters. But it was still said out of love. Everything I wrote to him was written out of love. Love is honest. Love is "pulling him out of the fire".

 

[amdntstr]

Nothing can separate us from God, or from his love.

And I will say again, we are called to convict ourselves of sin, not to point the finger at our brothers and sisters, whatever their faith.

Any person who consistently behaves with integrity and love towards their brothers and sisters will enter heaven before so called Christians who see nothing but sinners around them, and hence feel secure in their own superiority. They are the equivalent of the Pharisees condemned by Our Lord, who prevent others from entering heaven, and do not go in themselves.

However, this is a side issue. Keep away from any interest in satanic this that or the other. That is not healthy behaviour for any Christian, imo. I would go further, in fact, and say that anyone who goes to church and hears more about the evil one than about Our Lord should, in my view, find another church as quickly as possible.

SO the scripture I pulled up was wrong? We can seperate ouselves from God. He is not just calling himself a witch he is practicing witchcraft and calling on demons. I guess you haven't read this entire thread have you? I am in a minisrty making disciples who come out of witchcraft as well as being an exwitch myself. I you live and die in sin, you will not go to heaven.

You either believe all of the scriptures or you don't. I have backed everything I have written with the bible. Neither Jesus or Paul was always kind, but everything was written out of love. Love and loving kindness are two different things.

In one breath you say that we shouldn't focus on the "satanic" and the next you are supporting azzy calling on devils and demons. Go figure.

Again, you posts are judgemental and are making judgements on something you know nothing about.

 

[amdntstr]

SO the scripture I pulled up was wrong? We can seperate ouselves from God. He is not just calling himself a witch he is practicing witchcraft and calling on demons. I guess you haven't read this entire thread have you? I am in a minisrty making disciples who come out of witchcraft as well as being an exwitch myself. I you live and die in sin, you will not go to heaven.

You either believe all of the scriptures or you don't. I have backed everything I have written with the bible. Neither Jesus or Paul was always kind, but everything was written out of love. Love and loving kindness are two different things.

In one breath you say that we shouldn't focus on the "satanic" and the next you are supporting azzy calling on devils and demons. Go figure.

Again, you posts are judgemental and are making judgements on something you know nothing about.

And I will say again, we are called to convict ourselves of sin, not to point the finger at our brothers and sisters, whatever their faith.

Read the scriptures that have already been brought up. When we see our brothers and sisters in sin, we are to correct them.

Any person who consistently behaves with integrity and love towards their brothers and sisters will enter heaven before so called Christians who see nothing but sinners around them, and hence feel secure in their own superiority. They are the equivalent of the Pharisees condemned by Our Lord, who prevent others from entering heaven, and do not go in themselves.

You really know nothing about what the bible says do you? You will never get to heaven when you are calling on and praying to demons everyday.
NObody is keeping him out of heaven but his own acts.

as for the rest of your unbiblical garbage, kind of hypocrital of you.

As you sit on your high horse judging our hearts and intentions as well as calling us all liars, we are within the bible when we judge actions. You are the one with the superior attitude acting as if you know what the bible says, which obviously you do not, we are busy trying to save his soul and you are too busy on your soapbox to realize that.

 

[followjesus777]

SO the scripture I pulled up was wrong? We can seperate ouselves from God. He is not just calling himself a witch he is practicing witchcraft and calling on demons. I guess you haven't read this entire thread have you? I am in a minisrty making disciples who come out of witchcraft as well as being an exwitch myself. I you live and die in sin, you will not go to heaven.

You either believe all of the scriptures or you don't. I have backed everything I have written with the bible. Neither Jesus or Paul was always kind, but everything was written out of love. Love and loving kindness are two different things.

In one breath you say that we shouldn't focus on the "satanic" and the next you are supporting azzy calling on devils and demons. Go figure.

Again, you posts are judgemental and are making judgements on something you know nothing about.

"i tell you the truth" my Brother...
i read most of azzy's prayers one night for 3 hours here AND today i even went and read the prayers for the lost at MW...and they are all in the Name of Jesus Christ our Lord!

He is learning and growing in Christ Jesus just like you and me! Patience! Let us all grow gently in Christ in God's timing. The Lord will be patient with azzy in his praying to 'the goddess' wisdom...azzy believes it is the female side of god because scripture refers to wisdom as a 'she'. If we do not have patience with others how can we expect to recieve it for our own sins and flaws?

Posting 'The Word' Alone is excellent, let The Holy Spirit and The Word convict in us(you, me and azzy), not our harsh words. Mercy is a fruit of righteousness.

Beloved, we all have sin in our lives, non of us are free from sin. Commit one sin and we are guilty of them all which includes witchcraft.

"Test the spirits" and "you will know them by their fruit"...the biblical way and you will "know" who has the Holy Spirit in them!

Everyone must start somewhere, when i first became a believer was i immediatly free from all my past and sin?...no! We are all growing in Christ Jesus! There is a seal placed on every believer when they come to Him and Jesus through the Holy Spirit will walk with us and bring us into all Truth in His Timing, this is not an instantanious occurance but a lifetime one...The Holy Spirit has Patience with us, so we must also have patience with others!
in Jesus Name! We are all underconstruction by the Holy Spirit Non of us are 'there yet'.

Which sin is worse than another? LET THEM COME TO JESUS Do not condemn them! The seed will grow and grow by The GRACE of God and The Word of God, Not our harsh words.

Please put on the Love of Christ and the fruit of the Holy Spirit love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness...etc(Gal5:22)
in Jesus Name i ask you!
May God bless you for your mercy and kindness, "walk as Jesus walked"

 

[Isaiah4031nc101]

"i tell you the truth" my Brother...
i read most of azzy's prayers one night for 3 hours here AND today i even went and read the prayers for the lost at MW...and they are all in the Name of Jesus Christ our Lord!

He is learning and growing in Christ Jesus just like you and me! Patience! Let us all grow gently in Christ in God's timing. The Lord will be patient with azzy in his praying to 'the goddess' wisdom...azzy believes it is the female side of god because scripture refers to wisdom as a 'she'. If we do not have patience with others how can we expect to recieve it for our own sins and flaws?

Posting 'The Word' Alone is excellent, let The Holy Spirit and The Word convict in us(you, me and azzy), not our harsh words. Mercy is a fruit of righteousness.

Beloved, we all have sin in our lives, non of us are free from sin. Commit one sin and we are guilty of them all which includes witchcraft.

"Test the spirits" and "you will know them by their fruit"...the biblical way and you will "know" who has the Holy Spirit in them!

Everyone must start somewhere, when i first became a believer was i immediatly free from all my past and sin?...no! We are all growing in Christ Jesus! There is a seal placed on every believer when they come to Him and Jesus through the Holy Spirit will walk with us and bring us into all Truth in His Timing, this is not an instantanious occurance but a lifetime one...The Holy Spirit has Patience with us, so we must also have patience with others!
in Jesus Name! We are all underconstruction by the Holy Spirit Non of us are 'there yet'.

Which sin is worse than another? LET THEM COME TO JESUS Do not condemn them! The seed will grow and grow by The GRACE of God and The Word of God, Not our harsh words.

Please put on the Love of Christ and the fruit of the Holy Spirit love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness...etc(Gal5:22)
in Jesus Name i ask you!
May God bless you for your mercy and kindness, "walk as Jesus walked"

The problems does not lie in the fact that he (azzy) is wanting or even ministering to the MW's. The problem possed with it is his action and fellowship with them Pagens or the lost are not the believers brothers and sisters. And even thopugh some one prayers in the Name of Jesus doesnt automatically cast God's blessings on it. The Gospel tells us not every one that calls out Lord Lord shall enter in... their response was didnt we cast out devils and pray and do great works.. I really do not have a problem with he witinessing to them and tring to bring them out of this great wickedness. I really think alot need to start back from the beginning of this thread and read carefully and prayerfully. And catherineanne we do not cnvict our selfs of sin The Holy Ghost does. Being senitive to the Holy Spirit helps lead and giude us in all truth. Again as I have posted on this thread before, Paul said,"Come out from amoung them." 2 Cor 6. In those verses Paul also says what business does righteousness have fellowingshipping with unrighteousness, He als says be not unequally yoked together. Judgemental??? no just lining things words and actions with the Word. When did that become wrong. We do have a old saying from where I am from, if you lie down with the dogs your going to get the flies. I really am concerned from this man. not that he is unsaved, only God knows that, but that he is getting a little to close to the fire. I will say again witiness to them share the Word of God with them, love them with the love of Christ, but dont except their practices, or fellowship with them in the way that he has stated he does. I have read every one of this post and every one that has said to adm., bill, or the others that have reached out to help him showing sound scripture and Godly wisdow and then the others come in and begin to lay hold to them with gnashing of teeth and end it with calling them judgemental, that to me is as wrong as what you claim they are doing. I have not once seen someone here judge this mans salvation not once. Just the actions which according to the Word is bibical. If it isnt give scripture to prove its not. And some times , and I know that this probly will be taken out of the context of what I say be some times your prayers need legs, David in ps 27 said, One thing he desired ( ask of, to for pray for), and this thing will I do, and that is to dwell in the house of the Lord forever, not the halls of the mysticwicks chambers. I do have a problem with it (him fellowshipping with them in the way that he has stated)

 

[followjesus777]

The problems does not lie in the fact that he (azzy) is wanting or even ministering to the MW's. The problem possed with it is his action and fellowship with them Pagens or the lost are not the believers brothers and sisters. And even thopugh some one prayers in the Name of Jesus doesnt automatically cast God's blessings on it. The Gospel tells us not every one that calls out Lord Lord shall enter in... their response was didnt we cast out devils and pray and do great works.. I really do not have a problem with he witinessing to them and tring to bring them out of this great wickedness. I really think alot need to start back from the beginning of this thread and read carefully and prayerfully. And catherineanne we do not cnvict our selfs of sin The Holy Ghost does. Being senitive to the Holy Spirit helps lead and giude us in all truth. Again as I have posted on this thread before, Paul said,"Come out from amoung them." 2 Cor 6. In those verses Paul also says what business does righteousness have fellowingshipping with unrighteousness, He als says be not unequally yoked together. Judgemental??? no just lining things words and actions with the Word. When did that become wrong. We do have a old saying from where I am from, if you lie down with the dogs your going to get the flies. I really am concerned from this man. not that he is unsaved, only God knows that, but that he is getting a little to close to the fire. I will say again witiness to them share the Word of God with them, love them with the love of Christ, but dont except their practices, or fellowship with them in the way that he has stated he does. I have read every one of this post and every one that has said to adm., bill, or the others that have reached out to help him showing sound scripture and Godly wisdow and then the others come in and begin to lay hold to them with gnashing of teeth and end it with calling them judgemental, that to me is as wrong as what you claim they are doing. I have not once seen someone here judge this mans salvation not once. Just the actions which according to the Word is bibical. If it isnt give scripture to prove its not. And some times , and I know that this probly will be taken out of the context of what I say be some times your prayers need legs, David in ps 27 said, One thing he desired ( ask of, to for pray for), and this thing will I do, and that is to dwell in the house of the Lord forever, not the halls of the mysticwicks chambers. I do have a problem with it (him fellowshipping with them in the way that he has stated)

i have read all the posts Brother, i actually invited azzy to the WOF section because most of the other christains reject him and that is ALSO why he keeps his pagan friends...because many of the christians elsewhere judge him and reject him they dont welcome him and love him where he is at with Christ's love and the Patience of the Holy Spirit. Azzy longs and desires to fellowship with Christians, did you not read that in his prayers? It is the Heart that the Lord sees!

But not in a judgemnental fingerpointing way in a loving patient and kind mentoring kind of way. The reason i invited azzy here is because WOF IS filled overflowing with the Holy Spirit...the fruits of which are Love joy peace patience kindness goodness faithfulness gentleness and selfcontrol(Gal5:22) and the fruits of righteousness faith, mercy, forgiveness, grace etc.
"May the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your Spirit"

 

[Isaiah4031nc101]

There are many in here that has came out a pagen religion that are not rejected as you say. And as I go back to read some of the threads in here the statement made about wisdom being a goddess, meant that it was use in a femine since does not make since to me its wisdom I dont think it was ever render to call the goddess. But ant way I have not rejected azzy and really have not seen anyone do that to him. And again I dont see anything wrong and matter fact its great some people are tring to reach pagens. But some thing are not right and we have to seek the guidence of the Holy Ghost in these matters. but with the idea that some may be justifing that he fellowship and except the things other relious teach and the things they practice is not justifiable. Example if that is the way we should do hings the in order to seek out our ministry is to find something that we are conformable with and apply our self to it, then that being the case maybe some of us can want to reach the porno industery, and just go hang out with them durning their shoots and pray in Jesus Name while they are doing their thing. again the Bible in 2 cor 6 tells us to come out from amoung them. Paul after his conversion didnt go back and hang out with the religious leaders that he did before hand. If azzy was a pagen/witch and has got saved and delivered from that Praise God! and if he is saved and still into that then God help him. Again my concern is, an was and has always been, that he not get so close to that. Cause if you pick up snakes long enough ones going bite you>

 

[Isaiah4031nc101]

There are many in here that has came out a pagen religion that are not rejected as you say. And as I go back to read some of the threads in here the statement made about wisdom being a goddess, meant that it was use in a femine since does not make since to me its wisdom I dont think it was ever render to call the goddess. But ant way I have not rejected azzy and really have not seen anyone do that to him. And again I dont see anything wrong and matter fact its great some people are tring to reach pagens. But some thing are not right and we have to seek the guidence of the Holy Ghost in these matters. but with the idea that some may be justifing that he fellowship and except the things other relious teach and the things they practice is not justifiable. Example if that is the way we should do hings the in order to seek out our ministry is to find something that we are conformable with and apply our self to it, then that being the case maybe some of us can want to reach the porno industery, and just go hang out with them durning their shoots and pray in Jesus Name while they are doing their thing. again the Bible in 2 cor 6 tells us to come out from amoung them. Paul after his conversion didnt go back and hang out with the religious leaders that he did before hand. If azzy was a pagen/witch and has got saved and delivered from that Praise God! and if he is saved and still into that then God help him. Again my concern is, an was and has always been, that he not get so close to that. Cause if you pick up snakes long enough ones going bite you>

Great Lady Of Cats ,on this night hear my request
I call the four quarters,north and east,south and west.
Spin these energies around my cat in a multicolored ring
Good health and protection to my dear cat now bring
By all the power of earth and sea
As I will it,then so shall it be.
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Im low on food,I asked God to help me,and I asked Goddess to help me,but nothing happened yet.
I get paid thursday,so I guess I will be eating noddles
till then.I need to learn to budget my money since I only
get paid every two weeks.

Im running out of peanut butter and jelly.Since so many have called me an evil witch,I will pray like one.
But I asked God to give me a friend in church ,assuming it matters to him.I watched one of my cats mating,it was so funny,the male cat jumped on her as soon as I opened the door,and she went wild.When she was done,she turned and viciously attacked the male cat and ran him off.

Get lost,I have had my fun,I dont need you anymore,she seemed to say.(Thats my girls)LOL Then she came inside and slept,while the male cat was outside wanting in,and meowing,but I ran him off,because my apartment is a female only cats club.So I squirted him with a water bottle,and he ran off.Tabitha is pregnant,I dont know what Im going to do with her kittens,she was in heat about a month ago.

Well,cant wait to get paid.

You see follower this is why we really need to pray and help this man. Satan has confussed him greatly. And my pray is that god reaches down in the time of his afflection and deliver him from this torment. Do you remember the woman the lord healed while at the temple she had a spirit pf infermity for 18 yrs and could not straighten up. The woman was found at the temple, on the Lords day seeking I believe for 18 years she was seeking healing and release never found it until she encountered the Master. The sppirit of inifirmity, was nothing but a demonic influence that was cripping her. Some times the influence of evil spirits surround and crip. I do pray for this man, that God would heal the spirit of inifirmity that is so greatly afflecting him.