Satanic Church

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Satanic Church, so edgy. They're so edgy in fact that they don't even believe in the one their church is named after. He's a symbol, a symbol of rebellion against the established order. They are the true Libertarians who believe in nothing, cause no one cares (bro, lol).

I wouldn't take any member of the "Satanic" Church seriously because they don't take their membership in that organisation itself seriously. It exists to be a parody of established religion and can be dismissed just as easily.

 

[ShamashUruk]

Satanic Church, so edgy. They're so edgy in fact that they don't even believe in the one their church is named after. He's a symbol, a symbol of rebellion against the established order. They are the true Libertarians who believe in nothing, cause no one cares (bro, lol).

I wouldn't take any member of the "Satanic" Church seriously because they don't take their membership in that organisation itself seriously. It exists to be a parody of established religion and can be dismissed just as easily.

Correct it is a joke.

 

[Hieronymus]

So you mean the Lavey style pop church of Satan, or the people who truly worship satan?
"Church" can mean 2 things.
Also consider that "occult" means hidden and usually entails secrecy and levels of initiation.

 

[ShamashUruk]

So you mean the Lavey style pop church of Satan, or the people who truly worship satan?
"Church" can mean 2 things.

You didn't respond to my posting about the term or name satan, was just curious why?

 

[Hieronymus]

You didn't respond to my posting about the term or name satan, was just curious why?

You mean the half page of text?
Yeah, if i have the time and patience, i will.
But now my question, which should take one or two sentences to answer and helps to know what you're talking about in the OP and what you intend to discuss.

 

[ShamashUruk]

You mean the half page of text?
Yeah, if i have the time and patience, i will.
But now my question, which should take one or two sentences to answer and helps to know what you're talking about in the OP and what you intend to discuss.

Yeah it wasn't my OP, I was only responding. What do you mean?

 

[Hieronymus]

Yeah it wasn't my OP, I was only responding. What do you mean?

Oh, i'm sorry.
You're right.
None the less:

Correct it is a joke.

so i asked:

(So) you mean the Lavey style pop church of Satan, or the people who truly worship satan and do dark rituals and what not?
"Church" can mean 2 things.
Also consider that "occult" means hidden and usually entails secrecy and levels of initiation.

 

[DennisTate]

I don't see the relevance here.

You mentioned George Lucas, Star Wars is not a Biblical indicator at all.

Also, Colton Burpo if you watch the story didn't actually die.

His appendix burst, but as I know he knew his father was in a room next door praying or something like that.

NDE's are common and not everyone has the same experience. When a person is pronounced dead and they see Allah for example or even Ghandi, it doesn't mean much. There is nothing unambiguous going on, in fact it's mainly brain chemicals reacting. I think NDE's are the worst evidences of any such "afterlife" evidences.

I had a dream the other day that I was on a movie set with Jason Biggs, doesn't mean it will happen.

But isn't it kind of amazing how a Christian can have a near death experience and be shown about another Christian not making it to heaven..... .and a Muslim calling on the name of Messiah Issa / Jesus / Yeshua and being saved?

near-death.com
Emanuel Tuwagirairmana's Near-Death Experience

Jesus took Emanuel back to heaven and showed him a beautiful city. Emanuel said this was a very beautiful city with houses he has never seen anywhere in the world. There was a lake there and he was told he could not go across it.



He was surprised to see, across the lake, some of his friends who had died in Rwanda including a Muslim. Emanuel was surprised he did not see some devout Christians with whom he had been serving God with. He asked Christ how a Muslim could be in heaven. Jesus told him that as this Muslim was dying, he called upon the name of Jesus, and Jesus saved him from hell. Then Emanuel asked him why a certain devout Christian lady who had served God with him in Rwanda was not in heaven. Jesus replied it was because of her refusal to forgive those who had refused to visit her in the hospital when she was sick. Emanuel mentioned another name and Jesus told him that the reason that person was not in heaven was that he stole money which Christians had contributed to assist the sick.

Emanuel then saw a very brilliant light across the lake. Jesus told Emanuel he could not approach the throne of God since his time to leave the Earth had not yet come.

Emanuel was then shown hell which he said was very filthy. Those in hell are made to work like slaves all the time.

 

[ShamashUruk]

But isn't it kind of amazing how a Christian can have a near death experience and be shown about another Christian not making it to heaven..... .and a Muslim calling on the name of Messiah Issa / Jesus / Yeshua and being saved?

near-death.com
Emanuel Tuwagirairmana's Near-Death Experience

What about someone that believes in the Easter Bunny, and they have an NDE and the Easter Bunny saves them from eternal damnation. Point is, NDE is unreliable to solidify any existence of an afterlife.

 

[ShamashUruk]

It is ALWAYS about context. Words by themselves can mean several things. The context makes things meaningful.

YHWH is referred to as Baal once or twice because Baal means Boss.

Yes, Michael Heiser took on Sitchin because others deemed it below their level to explain things to the laymen.

Could be he used other Sumerian scholars' work

Context does not imply origin at all, I have no clue what you are getting at. In that case the Easter Bunny then is Jesus, in the context I use the Easter Bunny it aptly applies.

YHWH is introduced to the Israelite's, and may originate as a deity in the Southern Part of Mesopotamia. BAAL originates from Hadad and earlier Adad from Assyria, a term used to describe BAAL is HADAD-BAAL. Ba'al has other meanings than "Lord", as you so candidly put, his roles are that of the god of rain, thunder, and fertility, sometimes synonymous with Hadad; also used as a title prefixing the names of local deities. In Canaanite literature he is not the head of the Canaan pantheon, El is and he is El, the chief deity, god of the sky, father of many lesser gods and ruler of the divine assembly, also worshiped by the Israelites. All deities in the Israelite polytheistic religion are deified as male.

No, Michael Heiser took on Stitchen because he realized like other researchers that Stitchen didn't know what he was talking about.

Other Assyriologist, such as?

 

[DennisTate]

What about someone that believes in the Easter Bunny, and they have an NDE and the Easter Bunny saves them from eternal damnation. Point is, NDE is unreliable to solidify any existence of an afterlife.

That is a good question but........
it is interesting that one near death experience in six involves a meeting with a previously deceased pet..............

This is especially true in the case of children who have a brush with death.......

I assume G-d sends a former pet to them to make them feel comfortable......
and less fearful..........

Little Colton Burpo reported meeting lots of animals in heaven......

I am 90% certain that Colton meeting animals in heaven is NOT
something that his pastor dad told him would happen......... because very few pastors know about animals being in heaven.........
although it sure is implied in the Psalms, Ezekiel and in Revelations.

 

[ShamashUruk]

That is a good question but........
it is interesting that one near death experience in six involves a meeting with a previously deceased pet..............

This is especially true in the case of children who have a brush with death.......

I assume G-d sends a former pet to them to make them feel comfortable......
and less fearful..........

Little Colton Burpo reported meeting lots of animals in heaven......

I am 90% certain that Colton meeting animals in heaven is NOT
something that his pastor dad told him would happen......... because very few pastors know about animals being in heaven.........
although it sure is implied in the Psalms, Ezekiel and in Revelations.

As I know per the Bible animals who inhibit the earth are not in an a heavenly kingdom.

 

[DennisTate]

As I know per the Bible animals who inhibit the earth are not in an a heavenly kingdom.

On the other hand.... a cherub
can appear as a horse.......

Psalms 18:10 "And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind."

Revelations 6:2 "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

Revelation 19:11 ¶ And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war."

 

[DreadCthulhu]

Satanic Church, so edgy. They're so edgy in fact that they don't even believe in the one their church is named after. He's a symbol, a symbol of rebellion against the established order. They are the true Libertarians who believe in nothing, cause no one cares (bro, lol).

I wouldn't take any member of the "Satanic" Church seriously because they don't take their membership in that organisation itself seriously. It exists to be a parody of established religion and can be dismissed just as easily.

That is a pretty dangerous mindset my friend, you should probably spend some time rethinking how you view others.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

That is a pretty dangerous mindset my friend, you should probably spend some time rethinking how you view others.

What's dangerous, that I treat the Satanic Church with as much seriousness as I treat a kids cartoon? Where will this dangerous attitude of mine lead to?

 

[DennisTate]

What's dangerous, that I treat the Satanic Church with as much seriousness as I treat a kids cartoon? Where will this dangerous attitude of mine lead to?

Well...... for one thing.....
members of the Satanic church who claim to be Atheist......
are often deliberately lying and may be one of the members who can
perhaps do some of the things that John Ramirez claims to have
been able to do while he was a Satanist.

John Ramirez, an ex satanist now Christian, is briefly sharing his testimony and also talking about The Church of Jesus Christ not being active in spreading The Word of God. Indeed, there is a very little percentage of brothers and sisters in Christ who actually go out and do what The Son of God did. That is a big problem because many people are going to hell not knowing about The Truth because no one told them or because no one really took the time to show them the Love of Christ on the cross. Are you a true disciple who does as Christ did? John Ramirez is an ex devil worshiper who worked with the devil himself to commit horrible things around him. After seeing the real face of the devil in hell, God took him back on earth so that he would not die. He then converted to Christiannity and now preaches and shares his powerful testimony. He teaches on satan's tactics, vodoo rituals, halloween, in multiple of his videos. Sermon } John Ramirez - Unmasking the Devil with John Ramirez Day 1

 

[Trimeresurus]

Oh, my.
There is not satanic church. LaVey was an Atheist who did a little occultism. This is not satanism, it's
ridiculous. It's just puberty reloaded.
There are theistic satanists and we hate LaVey, his "bible" and his "church".
You know how you can recognize a real satanist? You can't. That's the trick. We don't show symbols in public and we do not dress like eccentric gothic tennagers.

 

[DennisTate]

Oh, my.
There is not satanic church. LaVey was an Atheist who did a little occultism. This is not satanism, it's
ridiculous. It's just puberty reloaded.
There are theistic satanists and we hate LaVey, his "bible" and his "church".
You know how you can recognize a real satanist? You can't. That's the trick. We don't show symbols in public and we do not dress like eccentric gothic tennagers.

A very interesting comment indeed Trimeresurus.........
may I ask if you already know about the return of the fallen King of the Watchers Azazel.... to the G-d of Abraham... .which will cause the kingdom of Satan to fall..........?


"but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD

to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness

to Aza'zel." (Leviticus 16:10, RSV)

 

[Trimeresurus]

A very interesting comment indeed Trimeresurus.........
may I ask if you already know about the return of the fallen King of the Watchers Azazel.... to the G-d of Abraham... .which will cause the kingdom of Satan to fall..........?


"but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD

to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness

to Aza'zel." (Leviticus 16:10, RSV)

Yes, it is a very interesting story. Aza'zel plays a big role in occultism for he was described very accurate. There are many old and new grimoires written about this entity and he is called to be one of the 9 gatekeepers. Those old hebrew texts are fascinating. But I see those stories in a metaphoric way. I don't actually believe in the return of G'd.

 

[DennisTate]

Yes, it is a very interesting story. Aza'zel plays a big role in occultism for he was described very accurate. There are many old and new grimoires written about this entity and he is called to be one of the 9 gatekeepers. Those old hebrew texts are fascinating. But I see those stories in a metaphoric way. I don't actually believe in the return of G'd.

My theory..... is that Lucifer is a lot like Stanley Milgram Ph. D. and
has decided to test all of us..... .to see if our love for G-d .... and for the truth.... is real or
just faked?!

I believe that the Ancient of Days the Father and the Ancient of Days the Holy Spirit... set out to bring the fallen angels back into harmony...........
essentially immediately after the fall / initiation of the Competition Experiment.......
which..... in a sense was successful because we all learned humility from it..... .and the highest levels of paradise / heaven can only be experienced by those who are truly humble.

"And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?"
(Matthew 12)