Satan’s Goal

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I do not know all of life’s mysteries, but it seems to me that Satan’s goal is to force us to bow down to him. He can’t show his face here on earth, so he settles for trying to force us to bow down to his chosen ones. What do you think?

He just tricks you to bow down - no force needed, just like with Adam and Chavah....

 

[dreadnought]

You were told 3 times I think.
Several of your 'ideas' are pretty far away from Scripture, in several threads,
and by picking the forum you do/did, you are 'protected' from being corrected,
although it doesn't seem any correction from anyone gets through anyway, does it ? (as others noted in the past about your unbliblical ideas about hell)

What do you mean "protected?" As far as I know, my ideas can be debated on this forum. Where does it say they can't be?

 

[dreadnought]

He just tricks you to bow down - no force needed, just like with Adam and Chavah....

He can put you in difficult situations if you let him.

 

[DamianWarS]

Why is this in general theology ?

because there's no forum for Satanology

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

because there's no forum for Satanology

Right, or rather, so he appears it pattern of humans...... oy gevalt !

Same as confronted Jesus in the first century, but with a lot more support worldwide !

 

[DamianWarS]

I do not know all of life’s mysteries, but it seems to me that Satan’s goal is to force us to bow down to him. He can’t show his face here on earth, so he settles for trying to force us to bow down to his chosen ones. What do you think?

I agree on an abstract level. "Force us to bow down to him" may not look like bowing down and it also may not look like him. In the end what he doesn't want is us to bow down to Christ, I think he see it as a win if that can be accomplished regardless how it looks.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I agree on an abstract level. "Force us to bow down to him" may not look like bowing down and it also may not look like him.

It is written in Revelation that the whole world (except the elect, of course)
"all society"/ mankind/ refuses to stop worshiping demons. They are continually .....

 

[DamianWarS]

Right, or rather, so he appears it pattern of humans...... oy gevalt !

Same as confronted Jesus in the first century, but with a lot more support worldwide !

sorry, I don't speak yiddish

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

sorry, I don't speak yiddish

Yi din't? Yiminy yippity, yup ...... oy veh

 

[dreadnought]

I agree on an abstract level. "Force us to bow down to him" may not look like bowing down and it also may not look like him. In the end what he doesn't want is us to bow down to Christ, I think he see it as a win if that can be accomplished regardless how it looks.

Yes, I don't mean to literally bow down to him. It's more like forcing you to swallow someone's arrogance.

 

[dreadnought]

It is written in Revelation that the whole world (except the elect, of course)
"all society"/ mankind/ refuses to stop worshiping demons. They are continually .....

We aren't talking about worshiping demons. We're talking about arrogant people forcing their will on us.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

With the mind of Christ in Ekklesia, as written in the Bible, we are not worried at all, not even anxious about that, (no one can force their will on us, man cannot nor can a demon) ...
just as we never fear that we blasphemed in an unforgivable sin.

We aren't talking about worshiping demons. We're talking about arrogant people forcing their will on us.

 

[dreadnought]

With the mind of Christ in Ekklesia, as written in the Bible, we are not worried at all, not even anxious about that, (no one can force their will on us, man cannot nor can a demon) ...
just as we never fear that we blasphemed in an unforgivable sin.

If you sin, you are vulnerable to Satan's attacks.

 

[Small Fish]

I do not know all of life’s mysteries, but it seems to me that Satan’s goal is to force us to bow down to him. He can’t show his face here on earth, so he settles for trying to force us to bow down to his chosen ones. What do you think?

He hates to be seen for what he really is. Not at all a object worthy of worship. He is a piece of scum.

Ephesians 6:12
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

I believe Satan wanted what God had, only he thinks he can do it better. He is your typical narcissistic psychopath who will steel your business out from under your nose if he can. He wants to take worship away from God, he is a jealous, cowardly looser that will spit you out once he is done with you.

Don't ever underestimate him, he can and will sink to unexpected levels of depravity to accomplish his goals.

His biggest weaknes is to be spotted and recognized. He hates to be exposed because his power lies in deception. The moment you start to recognize him and his tactics he loses his effectiveness and power over you and he absolutely hates that!

He is hellbound to rule this world and control every living being on it. He don't mind to riddle a little baby with cancer, so much so that it's little body is cut up to a place that it hardly look human anymore or sending a nation, men, women and children into a fiery furnace to eradicate them.

He relentlessly hunts down God's servants and children, imprison them, torture them, kill them or systematically construct laws and rules to prevent them from serving and obeying their God. Yet he sits in the congregation of the Lord amongst the sons of God.

Satan is a hateful bird, he is a vulture that feeds of his own people. He is like that guy at work who constantly tries to suckup to his boss and backstab his fellow workers. He is like that greedy politician thst constantly raise taxes and sow lies between his own people to keep them at odds with another because he rules by chaos and fear. He will take the very food and labour from his own people to satisfy his own greed while he prosecute, fine and even imprison them as if they are the scum of the earth.

He lies, masquerades as a servant of God to milk his congregation of all their money, their houses, and manytimes even take their wifes and families. If you allow him. He wants to have it all and he makes Christianity look bad at the same time.

He is a shrude businessman that always tries to present things in a different light to what is the truth in order to accomplish his goal.

He could be your, president, your pastor, your priest, your boss, your colleague, your husband, your wife or even your child. He just gets in everywhere he can.

He is the god of this world, yet he has no part in God and God has no part in him. So don't blame his wickedness on God. Satan is a bluff and his time is up!


Isaiah 14:5-22
5 The Lord hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.
6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.
7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.
8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.
9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.
10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?
11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.
19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.
21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
22 For I will rise up against them, saith the Lord of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the Lord.

I can go on and on...

 

[Apologetic_Warrior]

I do not know all of life’s mysteries, but it seems to me that Satan’s goal is to force us to bow down to him. He can’t show his face here on earth, so he settles for trying to force us to bow down to his chosen ones. What do you think?

I think Satan's methodology is the same as it's always been, it starts out with "hath God said?" and once the seeds of doubt are planted, then he would tell us we can be as gods, independent from GOD, it's the dangling carrot of autonomy, this notion that we really don't need GOD, and we really can't be too sure about His Word anyway. Satan needs not to force, most are children of wrath as it is, most are under his spell of human autonomy, of independence from God, and dependence in self.

Did Satan have to force Adam or Eve to disobey God? Nope. He used a cunning and craft technique, he deceived them with the promise of independence from GOD but not in those words, "you shall become like God", and the bitter pill of God hiding something from them...knowledge.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I do not know all of life’s mysteries, but it seems to me that Satan’s goal is to force us to bow down to him. He can’t show his face here on earth, so he settles for trying to force us to bow down to his chosen ones. What do you think?

I think he mostly wants as many people with him in hell as possible. Once there, he can extract all he wants out of men. How he achieves that doesn’t matter.

 

[messianist]

His goal is irrelevant, its gods will that will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

 

[zoidar]

Satan's goal is for Christians to renounce their faith and non Christians to stay non Christians. His ways are of the world, money, power, women etc. using TV, music, books, celebs, sports, sad to say friends and family, and sometimes church ...

 

[Introverted1293]

You are probably right about that. He does want us to bow before him.

 

[dreadnought]

I think he mostly wants as many people with him in hell as possible. Once there, he can extract all he wants out of men. How he achieves that doesn’t matter.

You think he is that patient?