Sarah Palin says a civil war is possible

[Yttrium]

Who is trying that? The closest I've seen is a paper, written by legal scholars on the Right, who claim that Trump should be disqualified -- by Republicans -- from being their candidate because of the 14th Amendment. I've seen zero effort by the government or Democrats to prevent Trump from running. Even under the current charges -- even if Trump is convicted of all the indictments (which would be after a trial and verdict, not before) -- none of the indictments are for "sedition" so would not disqualify Trump from running.

It might not go anywhere, but it's happening. As it turns out, conviction isn't necessary. It just needs to be shown that Trump participated.

State election officials prepare for efforts to disqualify Trump under 14th Amendment

Efforts to keep Donald Trump off the 2024 ballot are gaining momentum as secretaries of state are preparing for or starting to respond to challenges to his candidacy.

abcnews.go.com

 

[JustOneWay]

There are lawsuits to remove Trump from the primary ballot in several states working their way through the courts. If DT is removed from the primary ballot of just one critical state, it could impact his chance to be nominated (and, therefore run for President). We are 1 court decision away from “Election Interference”.

States rights.... LOL

Maybe trump should have not attempted a coup. Trump was indicted for election interference in Georgia. That should disqualify him from the Georgia ballot. Of course trump knew all of this would happen and that is why he announced his candidacy for president so early, so he could use the victim card when the indictments came.

 

[stevil]

This is a ridiculous comment on several levels. First, she was always flaky. Now she's a flaky has-been. Nobody should give a flip about what she thinks. Secondly, what's with this "two-tier system of justice." Since when are billionaires being treated unfairly by the courts?

There does seem to be a two tier system.
The elites, the multi millionaires with political and business power seem to get away with lots of crime all the time.
Just look at how quickly the plebs were arrested and processed for Jan 6 crimes and how long it has taken for the rich elites like D Trump, Guliani, Eastman and the likes to put through the justice system.

Trump pardoned Stone, Flynn, Bannon, his mega rich elite powerful buddies and let the foot soldiers at Jan 6 to rot.

The cases against Trump and his accomplices must happen in order to try to get rid of this two tier system.

 

[JustOneWay]

There does seem to be a two tier system.
The elites, the multi millionaires with political and business power seem to get away with lots of crime all the time.
Just look at how quickly the plebs were arrested and processed for Jan 6 crimes and how long it has taken for the rich elites like D Trump, Guliani, Eastman and the likes to put through the justice system.

Trump pardoned Stone, Flynn, Bannon, his mega rich elite powerful buddies and let the foot soldiers at Jan 6 to rot.

The cases against Trump and his accomplices must happen in order to try to get rid of this two tier system.

Elites tend to get away with more crimes because their crimes are usually white collar crimes, which revolve around taking money or other non-violent crimes. Typically, white collar crime are prosecuted much less than violent crimes.

 

[dogs4thewin]

States rights.... LOL

Maybe trump should have not attempted a coup. Trump was indicted for election interference in Georgia. That should disqualify him from the Georgia ballot. Of course trump knew all of this would happen and that is why he announced his candidacy for president so early, so he could use the victim card when the indictments came.

Why would being indicated disqualify you from running from office? A conviction is what should disqualify someone so far Trump has been convicted of NOTHING.

 

[Miles]

She's still relevant? Nothing against her personally, as I've never met her and I don't live in Alaska, but why should I care what she says? If I had a dollar for every celebrity or politician who says click-baity things I'd be a billionaire. Civil war is arguably always a possibility, however improbable it may be.

Regardless of whether the charges against Trump stick, there are better candidates to choose from.

 

[iluvatar5150]

She's still relevant?

No.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Mike Huckabee: If Trump Doesn’t Win, 2024 Will Be Last Election ‘Decided by Ballots Rather Than Bullets’​

From his show on Trinity Broadcasting:

If these tactics [i.e. a DOJ that acts in accordance with the idea that no one is above the law] end up working to keep Trump from winning or even running in 2024, it is going to be the last American election that will be decided by ballots rather than bullets.

 

[JustOneWay]

Why would being indicated disqualify you from running from office? A conviction us what should disqualify someone so far Trump has been convicted of NOTHING.

No need to be convicted.

The Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Mike Huckabee: If Trump Doesn’t Win, 2024 Will Be Last Election ‘Decided by Ballots Rather Than Bullets’​

From his show on Trinity Broadcasting:

If these tactics [i.e. a DOJ that acts in accordance with the idea that no one is above the law] end up working to keep Trump from winning or even running in 2024, it is going to be the last American election that will be decided by ballots rather than bullets.

Man, The Huckster has an even lower opinion of TrumpFans than I do.

 

[durangodawood]

Mike Huckabee: If Trump Doesn’t Win, 2024 Will Be Last Election ‘Decided by Ballots Rather Than Bullets’​

From his show on Trinity Broadcasting:

If these tactics [i.e. a DOJ that acts in accordance with the idea that no one is above the law] end up working to keep Trump from winning or even running in 2024, it is going to be the last American election that will be decided by ballots rather than bullets.

This probly deserves it own thread.

 

[dogs4thewin]

No need to be convicted.

The Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

Except that without conviction a person is only alleged to have committed those actions without a convicted or guilty plea those actions are not proven in a court of law.

 

[JustOneWay]

Except that without conviction a person is only alleged to have committed those actions without a convicted or guilty plea those actions are not proven in a court of law.

Wrong. "or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

Aid or comfort

Trump says he would pardon a 'large portion' of Jan. 6 rioters

Trump said at a CNN town hall that he was "inclined to pardon many" of the people convicted of federal offenses for attacking the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

www.nbcnews.com

Ex-Trump White House lawyer believes Trump gave 'aid and comfort to the insurrectionists'

Ty Cobb told CNN's Erin Burnett Tuesday that Trump's tweet calling out Pence and the three hours of inactivity on that day are proof enough.

www.businessinsider.in

 

[essentialsaltes]

No need to be convicted.

The Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

Looks like it will be tested by SCOTUS. I understand this particular plaintiff doesn't have the best chances, but it will be interesting to see how it works out.

Supreme Court to Decide Whether to Kick Trump Off Ballot​

The court distributed John Castro v. Donald Trump to the justices for conference on Wednesday ahead of the upcoming term, which will begin on October 2. Conference is to take place on September 26 and the case is expected to be decided on or before October 9.

Castro, a tax attorney running for the Republican nomination next year, sent his petition to the Supreme Court last month, asking the justices to answer whether political candidates can challenge the eligibility of another candidate of the same party running for the same nomination "based on a political competitive injury in the form a diminution of votes."

 

[dogs4thewin]

Wrong. "or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

Aid or comfort

Trump says he would pardon a 'large portion' of Jan. 6 rioters

Trump said at a CNN town hall that he was "inclined to pardon many" of the people convicted of federal offenses for attacking the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

www.nbcnews.com

Has he been convicted of anything? Even if I believed that those people were our "enemies" has he pardoned any of them yet? no? Therefore has he been proven in a court of law to have done anything wrong?

 

[JustOneWay]

Has he been convicted of anything? Even if I believed that those people were our "enemies" has he pardoned any of them yet? no? Therefore has he been proven in a court of law to have done anything wrong?

Ex-Trump White House lawyer believes Trump gave 'aid and comfort to the insurrectionists'

Ty Cobb told CNN's Erin Burnett Tuesday that Trump's tweet calling out Pence and the three hours of inactivity on that day are proof enough.

www.businessinsider.in

 

[dogs4thewin]

Ex-Trump White House lawyer believes Trump gave 'aid and comfort to the insurrectionists'

Ty Cobb told CNN's Erin Burnett Tuesday that Trump's tweet calling out Pence and the three hours of inactivity on that day are proof enough.

www.businessinsider.in

that was not the question the question was had he been convicted of the same in a court of law not who may or may not believe he did or not.

 

[JustOneWay]

that was not the question the question was had he been convicted of the same in a court of law not who may or may not believe he did or not.

Already asked and answered. Read the Constitution - it makes no mention of being convicted.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Already asked and answered. Read the Constitution - it makes no mention of being convicted.

Does it have to say anything about being convicted? As without conviction there is no prove in a court of law without conviction anyone could disqualify someone because they "believed" something about a person which may or may not be true or a disqualifying factor. If conviction is not required then a person could try to have an opposing party disqualfied just out of spite. Which I think we can all agree was not the founding father's intend.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

Does it have to say anything about being convicted? As without conviction there is no prove in a court of law without conviction anyone could disqualify someone because they "believed" something about a person which may or may not be true or a disqualifying factor. If conviction is not required then a person could try to have an opposing party disqualfied just out of spite. Which I think we can all agree was not the founding father's intend.

The founding fathers had nothing to do with the 14th amendment.