Salvation

[isac1989]

Jesus told us that we need to take our own cross. That the way to salvation is narrow and difficult.

People can be saved, then lose the salvation.

1 Timothy 5:12-15 Paul talks about people who were saved then going back to Satan.

We are saved by believing in Jesus, yes. If we really believe in Jesus then we believe in all the other things He says. Not commiting sins knowingly is something that should be normal. But today we see so many Christians sinning knowingly because they believe they are saved anyway.
That's not biblical.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Jesus told us that we need to take our own cross. That the way to salvation is narrow and difficult.

Jesus said also we can do nothing without Him .

People can be saved, then lose the salvation.

If people saved by God lose salvation it means God is powerless . Nothing we do saves us . so nothing we do can make us to become "unborn" again .

1 Timothy 5:12-15 Paul talks about people who were saved then going back to Satan.

1 Timothy 5


11As for younger widows, do not put them on such a list. For when their sensual desires overcome their dedication to Christ, they want to marry. 12Thus they bring judgment on themselves, because they have broken their first pledge. 13Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying things they ought not to. 14So I counsel younger widows to marry, to have children, to manage their homes and to give the enemy no opportunity for slander. 15Some have in fact already turned away to follow Satan.

This relates to the wheat and the tares . like with Judas . some who were called . were not chosen . and were not wheat but were tares . were not of the wise virgins . but of the foolish variety . it's all about trust and receiving His love . its a relationship . thus the phrase "i never knew you, depart from me you workers of injustice"

We are saved by believing in Jesus, yes. If we really believe in Jesus then we believe in all the other things He says.

This relates to judgment . There is no point judging the outer appearance of people whom God is cleansing from the inside . because you do not have all the information .

Not commiting sins knowingly is something that should be normal. But today we see so many Christians sinning knowingly because they believe they are saved anyway. That's not biblical.

Hmm i think it is . see Romans again . Even Paul had problem with the law of sin working within his members . only God knows what's in the heart .

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Keep in mind this is the "edification" section,

if you wish to prove what you're saying ignoring the other half of the bible, to "de-edify" people . you might wish to take this to the GT section or an appropriate denominational forum where that form of belief is acceptable .

Romans 8

38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

If Paul was convinced of this .. why aren't you?

 

[Shulamite]

This relates to the wheat and the tares . like with Judas . some who were called . were not chosen . and were not wheat but were tares . were not of the wise virgins . but of the foolish variety . it's all about trust and receiving His love . its a relationship . thus the phrase "i never knew you, depart from me you workers of injustice"

Yes.....
Jesus Himself said, "Many are called, few are chosen"
Jesus said, "I know (relationship) those I HAVE CHOSEN."
Jesus also said, "You did not choose Me, I chose you and appointed you."

Since we were crucified with Him, we died and we no longer live, He lives in us. We are clothed with His righteousness, not through human zeal and desire, but by His Spirit He keeps us.
He alone receives the praise on that Day for presenting us to Himself "faultless and blameless in His sight." "He Who began the work in you, will complete it!"


Thankyou Yeshua!