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That is only the believe of those who believe God is impotent to keep His Church that He loves.
The "birth" is referring to Paul.
"until Christ be formed in you" is referring to the Galatians' being conformed to Paul's presentation of Lord Jesus by the Gospel he preached to them.
God will always "keep" His. Have you noticed some of the things He allows them to experience along the way, though? Hello?
Yes. History shows all that the Church suffered. The Early Church Christians, whom you feel turned apostate, suffered greatly at the hands of unbelievers.
The early Church Christians went through terrible trials, were burned at the stake for their faith, and fed to the lions, were tortured, imprisoned, and killed for their faith. Through all of this, the Early Church Fathers defended the faith against heretics.
So to say that the Early Church is "the worst to interpret him" is a slap in the face of these most faithful Early Church Christians who valiantly stood steadfast in the face of so many trials.
Jesus said some will believe for a while then they will fall away.
“Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away.”
Luke 8:13 NASB1995
So stop trying to save yourself by believing. Lol
What nonsense, Sidon.yes.
they had not "root".
This is the "root of jesse". Isaiah 11
This is the Root Himself, who is Jesus The Christ.
So, if you have no "root", you have no "Christ in you".
Legalism is the teaching that we are justified by our works. I have told you repeatedly that our works do not play any role in our salvation. What your doing is lying about me. If I’m a legalist then so are you for saying that we must believe in Christ in order to be saved. Your placing a stipulation on how to attain salvation by your own works.
He does seem a bit ambiguous at times. Probably due to the language and difference in the way people talked in that time period. We also have to consider that it is likely that a lot of what he writes to these people could be an inside reference to things he has said to them in the past. Things that we wouldn’t completely know about because they had received prior information about them. That’s why I think the earliest church writings can be helpful in interpreting his epistles because these men were able to follow the apostles for years and gather more knowledge than we have from the scriptures.
In other words, Paul doesn't say the words "born again", or you'd've quoted it.
Now, Romans 10:13 and Acts 2:21 both quote from this:
Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions. 29 And on My servants and on my handmaids in those days will I pour out of My Spirit. 30 And I will shew wonders in heaven, and upon the earth, blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and glorious day of the Lord come. 32 And it shall come to pass that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved: for in mount Sion and in Jerusalem shall the saved one be as the Lord has said, and they that have glad tidings preached to them, whom the Lord has called.LXX
Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Two very different gospels...
Galatians 2:7-9 Galatians 1:6 Galatians 3:2 John 14:15-17
Galatians 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as [the gospel] of the circumcision [was] unto Peter;
Galatians 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
John 14:15 If ye love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever; 17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth Him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know Him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Was there another gospel where the Holy Spirit is given by the works of law?
"My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you."--Galatians 4
Don't know if this passes muster but it came to me.
Yikes!The "birth" is referring to Paul.
"until Christ be formed in you" is referring to the Galatians' being conformed to Paul's presentation of Lord Jesus by the Gospel he preached to them.
Galatians 2:7-9
Be faithful and Jesus will give you eternal life.
No it’s been my experience that the believe only crowd are typically the new Christians.
But what? But He said that we must hear His words and act on them?d.
Legalism is the teaching that we are justified by our works. .
Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven came before the gospel of grace to the gentiles
So do you plan on answering my question about your "enemies of the cross" statement?
Yes I know that Jesus is the Savior, but......let me show you over here, how Lord Jesus instructs to stay saved:
32 And it shall come to pass that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved: called.LXX
Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
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One of these days I might find the time to look for where you posted this stuff the first time.
That’s not how I would define the grace gospel. I believe God will grant His grace to everyone. The thing I haven’t figured out is if God has already granted it to everyone or if He grants it to each individual at different times.
It's a Kingdom Gospel parable. Matthew 13:10-11
Nyet. They are the worst to interpret him. Just let Paul be Paul. You either get him or you don't. It's a Gentile thing.
"Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; 26Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: 28Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:"--Colossians 1
Nyet. They are the worst to interpret him. Just let Paul be Paul. You either get him or you don't. It's a Gentile thing.
"Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; 26Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: 28Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:"--Colossians 1
Nyet. They are the worst to interpret him. Just let Paul be Paul. You either get him or you don't. It's a Gentile thing.
"Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; 26Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: 28Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:"--Colossians 1
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