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Was the thief saved by GRACE ?
Saved by ATONEMENT ?
I believe that the THIEF was saved by the atonement , because as Jesus died the VEIL was rent from TOP to BOTTONHe was saved because Christ said he was. I doubt the thief cared much about the underpinning mechanism by which his salvation was secured. That is largely of interest only to theologians a couple thousand years later.
I think we all have a pretty good idea. We turn to God in faith, thus recognizing and accepting Him as our God. From within that relationship, with Him, we're now empowered to walk as His children should, under grace. Fruit in our lives points to and confirms that sonship. At the end of our lives we'll be judged on that fruit, on that love that comes only by fellowship with its Source as we truly remain in and follow Him.How are we saved today and we all could write a list on HOW !
#1 Many will say that they have been going to church with their family for years , I have to be saved .
#2 Many will say I was WATER BAPTIZED .
#3 I am saved because I am one of the 144,000 .
#4 I am saved , because I keep the 10 COMMANDMENTS .
#5 Many say that they are BORN AGAIN .
#6 Many believe in a WORK SALVATION .
#7 Many say they are SAVED BY GRACE .
#8 I know that I am saved , because I SPOKE IN TONGUES .
#9 I believe that if all are NOT BAPTIZED FOR THE DEAD , you are not saved .
#10 We should all know how we are saved , right ?
#11 So explain how we are saved today bY GRACE ?
#12 Can we know who was the FIRST PERSON SAVED BY GRACE ?
#13 And how was Peter saved ?
#14 I believe that anyone NOT baptized for the DEAD will not be raosed from the DEAD .
What say you ?
dan p
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This THIEF grew up in Israel and learning and living under the Law of Moses !!Let us avoid excessive use of 'we' and instead direct our focus towards God's words. For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace.
This THIEF grew up in Israel and learning and living under the Law of Moses !!
Well, they can be saved if they can do the whole law given to Moses. No wonder Christ said that....And how were Israelites saved under the Law of Moses
You say that he did not grow up there ? Will you say how that happened , if you have a verse ?Dan, my Bible does not say where the thief grew up or whether he learned and lived under the Law of Moses - only that he died, how, and with whom.
You say that he did not grow up there ? Will you say how that happened , if you have a verse ?
If that is so , how did that THIEF on the cross say to Jesus , remember me when thou comest into thy KINGDOM ?Dan, my Bible does not say where the thief grew up or whether he learned and lived under the Law of Moses - only that he died, how, and with whom.
I have knowledge of Islam without ever having practiced or lived under Scharia law.Where did the THIEF get that knowledge from if he did not know the LAW OF MOSES ?
There is one that I did NOT mention and that one is ATONEMENT , so how was Israel kept save ?I think we all have a pretty good idea. We turn to God in faith, thus recognizing and accepting Him as our God. From within that relationship, with Him, we're now empowered to walk as His children should, under grace. Fruit in our lives points to and confirms that sonship. At the end of our lives we'll be judged on that fruit, on that love that comes only by fellowship with its Source as we truly remain in and follow Him.
What was Peter's answer to the crowd when they asked, "Men and brethren, what shall we do?" And what did Paul say to the Philippian jailor when he asked, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" I would think that Peter and Paul would be the best ones to say how we should be saved, and their answers were very simple.How are we saved today and we all could write a list on HOW !
#1 Many will say that they have been going to church with their family for years , I have to be saved .
#2 Many will say I was WATER BAPTIZED .
#3 I am saved because I am one of the 144,000 .
#4 I am saved , because I keep the 10 COMMANDMENTS .
#5 Many say that they are BORN AGAIN .
#6 Many believe in a WORK SALVATION .
#7 Many say they are SAVED BY GRACE .
#8 I know that I am saved , because I SPOKE IN TONGUES .
#9 I believe that if all are NOT BAPTIZED FOR THE DEAD , you are not saved .
#10 We should all know how we are saved , right ?
#11 So explain how we are saved today bY GRACE ?
#12 Can we know who was the FIRST PERSON SAVED BY GRACE ?
#13 And how was Peter saved ?
#14 I believe that anyone NOT baptized for the DEAD will not be raosed from the DEAD .
What say you ?
dan p
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One was How was Peter saved ?What was Peter's answer to the crowd when they asked, "Men and brethren, what shall we do?" And what did Paul say to the Philippian jailor when he asked, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" I would think that Peter and Paul would be the best ones to say how we should be saved, and their answers were very simple.
How do you interpret Luke 22:31?One was How was Peter saved ?
Check out Luke 22:31 , so what say you ?
dan p
Here is what Luke 22:31-32 is saying !!How do you interpret Luke 22:31?
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