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SALVATION---instant, or process?

Discussion in 'Salvation (Soteriology)' started by Ben johnson, Nov 10, 2002.

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  1. Shimon

    Shimon Shalom!

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    John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


    Sure sounds that way to me.... ;)


    Shimon
     
  2. Reformationist

    Reformationist Non nobis domine sed tuo nomine da gloriam

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    Okay.  Well, would you mind addressing this thread for me please?

    Thanks,

    God bless
     
  3. reeann

    reeann Trust and Obey

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    Shimon, i'm sorry i haven't gotten back to you sooner, these posts in these threads get harder to find *hits subscribed* :)

    I agree with you all of God's children struggle with obedience in their lives. I am not saying that I am without sin, because I know i'm not.

    But this is a 'salvation' thread, and your post was helpful. It did not however answer my question.

    Am I saved if I don't follow all of the Torah? That is my issue with your statement, it appears to me if i'm not keeping all of the Torah law (i'm not sure I met anyone who has), then i'm not saved?
     
  4. Shimon

    Shimon Shalom!

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    reeann:

    That's not a question I'm qualified to answer. Only God can make that decision. I refrain from making any statements suggesting who is saved and who is not saved.

    But let me ask you this: Would you expect a person to be saved if they continued to live a life of crime? I don't mean that a person will not continue to sin now and then, I'm talking about a life of unrepentant sin.

    In other words, what is different between a person who claims to have faith, yet continues to transgress His commandment not to cheat, steal and commit acts of violence, and a person who claims to have faith, and continues to transgress His other commandments?

    It's not a question that I feel comfortable answering.

    But, Yeshua may have given us a hint:

    Here, He doesn't say that one who breaks "the least of these commandments" won't get into Heaven at all, He says they will be "least" in the Kingdom of Heaven.

    Food for thought...

    Shimon
     
  5. cenimo

    cenimo Jesus Had A 12 Man A-Team

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    re: the OP, is salvation instant?

    ah, the thief on the cross.......
     
  6. Ben johnson

    Ben johnson Legend Supporter

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    :clap: @ Cenimo!
    OK, most people hold to "salvation is KNOWABLE". For those who do not (cited in the quotebox above), I would like to ask them to comment on a verse from Scripture:

    The one who believes in the Son of God hs the witness in himself; the one who does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed the witness that God has borne about His Son. And the witness is this, that God has given us eternal ife, and this life is in His Son. He who HAS the Son HAS THE LIFE; he who does not have the Son of God has not the life. I write this to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may KNOW YOU HAVE ETERNAL LIFE."

    Thanx in advance for your answers...
     
  7. Julie

    Julie ONLY JESUS CHRIST SAVES

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    "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." (I Jn. 5:13)

     

    ". . . . I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day." (II Tim. 1:12)
     
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