Salvation confusion

[Zimmer36]

Hey all. undergoing alot of spiritual attacks lately. With all the signs pointing to the end times- rev 12 sign, all these ppl saying the rapture can happen any day now,etc it has caused me to look at myself and desire to know for certain i am truly saved. Ive been in the Word,praying,watching youtube vid after youtube vid on salvation assurance, yet i still question it all and feel like what if something isnt right with me? I dont want to be one of those to whom God says "depart from me i never knew u ye worker of iniquity". I dont want to be left behind either. Ive questioned my sincerity when ive asked Christ into my life. These voices pop in my head like "are u really sure God is real?", "do u really fully surrender to Jesus?" "What if you arent being truly sincere?", "why do u still feel like somethings missing?" Also verses that say u cant serve two masters and we should hate the world. I still feel worldly often. Im a movie fanatic and lover of music and neither of those are really of God. So because i enjoy those things does that mean im doomed as well? Also i watched a youtube series on salvation assurance and the pastor mentioned how many christians are deceived into thinking theyre saved ,etc. and that u will know them by their fruits and i dont have many of those good fruits. I dunno guys ive just been struggling bad. Stomach in knots. Has me exhausted. I hate assuming im saved or feeling unsaved i want to absolutelt KNOW im saved and see more evidence of it in my life. Has anyone felt this way and struggled like this? Its eternity on the line and i dont wanna mess it up

 

[Baby Cottontail]

Hey all. undergoing alot of spiritual attacks lately. With all the signs pointing to the end times- rev 12 sign, all these ppl saying the rapture can happen any day now,etc it has caused me to look at myself and desire to know for certain i am truly saved. Ive been in the Word,praying,watching youtube vid after youtube vid on salvation assurance, yet i still question it all and feel like what if something isnt right with me? I dont want to be one of those to whom God says "depart from me i never knew u ye worker of iniquity". I dont want to be left behind either. Ive questioned my sincerity when ive asked Christ into my life. These voices pop in my head like "are u really sure God is real?", "do u really fully surrender to Jesus?" "What if you arent being truly sincere?", "why do u still feel like somethings missing?" Also verses that say u cant serve two masters and we should hate the world. I still feel worldly often. Im a movie fanatic and lover of music and neither of those are really of God. So because i enjoy those things does that mean im doomed as well? Also i watched a youtube series on salvation assurance and the pastor mentioned how many christians are deceived into thinking theyre saved ,etc. and that u will know them by their fruits and i dont have many of those good fruits. I dunno guys ive just been struggling bad. Stomach in knots. Has me exhausted. I hate assuming im saved or feeling unsaved i want to absolutelt KNOW im saved and see more evidence of it in my life. Has anyone felt this way and struggled like this? Its eternity on the line and i dont wanna mess it up

Romans 10:8-13 (NASB):
But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" -- that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed."

For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for "Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved."

I hope that my thread that I posted yesterday is not contributing to your turmoil. If so, I am deeply sorry, as that was not the intention of my thread at all.

There is no "level" of belief necessary. You either believe in Jesus or you don't. You don't have to reach some "really level of belief." If you trust in Jesus as your Lord and Savior, and you believe in His death and resurrection, you are saved.

It's faith plus nothing.

I will pray for you.

 

[brinny]

Praying for you Zimmer (((hug)))

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children. Romans 8:16
In being still, knowing He is God, you will find peace. God bless

 

[paul1149]

I pray you lay your burdens down and come as a child, and learn the kindness, gentleness and simplicity that is in Christ. It is good for the heart to be established by grace - Heb 13.

Some preachers need to be turned off.

 

[Dave G.]

Been there done that ! i really would like for you to listen to this and anything else this guy has to say on the book of Romans and salvation in general, this is the quick version to give you a taste, he has a longer version as well: pastor richard jordan salvation and the book of romans - Bing video

 

[mukk_in]

Hey all. undergoing alot of spiritual attacks lately. With all the signs pointing to the end times- rev 12 sign, all these ppl saying the rapture can happen any day now,etc it has caused me to look at myself and desire to know for certain i am truly saved. Ive been in the Word,praying,watching youtube vid after youtube vid on salvation assurance, yet i still question it all and feel like what if something isnt right with me? I dont want to be one of those to whom God says "depart from me i never knew u ye worker of iniquity". I dont want to be left behind either. Ive questioned my sincerity when ive asked Christ into my life. These voices pop in my head like "are u really sure God is real?", "do u really fully surrender to Jesus?" "What if you arent being truly sincere?", "why do u still feel like somethings missing?" Also verses that say u cant serve two masters and we should hate the world. I still feel worldly often. Im a movie fanatic and lover of music and neither of those are really of God. So because i enjoy those things does that mean im doomed as well? Also i watched a youtube series on salvation assurance and the pastor mentioned how many christians are deceived into thinking theyre saved ,etc. and that u will know them by their fruits and i dont have many of those good fruits. I dunno guys ive just been struggling bad. Stomach in knots. Has me exhausted. I hate assuming im saved or feeling unsaved i want to absolutelt KNOW im saved and see more evidence of it in my life. Has anyone felt this way and struggled like this? Its eternity on the line and i dont wanna mess it up

This anxiety is quite common until one is fully led by the Holy Spirit. Constant assurance from the Holy Spirit is the only antidote for spiritual anxiety. In such times try praying "Lord, see if there's any offensive way left in me, and lead me in the way everlasting." God bless

 

[samir]

Hey all. undergoing alot of spiritual attacks lately. With all the signs pointing to the end times- rev 12 sign, all these ppl saying the rapture can happen any day now,etc it has caused me to look at myself and desire to know for certain i am truly saved. Ive been in the Word,praying,watching youtube vid after youtube vid on salvation assurance, yet i still question it all and feel like what if something isnt right with me? I dont want to be one of those to whom God says "depart from me i never knew u ye worker of iniquity". I dont want to be left behind either. Ive questioned my sincerity when ive asked Christ into my life. These voices pop in my head like "are u really sure God is real?", "do u really fully surrender to Jesus?" "What if you arent being truly sincere?", "why do u still feel like somethings missing?" Also verses that say u cant serve two masters and we should hate the world. I still feel worldly often. Im a movie fanatic and lover of music and neither of those are really of God. So because i enjoy those things does that mean im doomed as well? Also i watched a youtube series on salvation assurance and the pastor mentioned how many christians are deceived into thinking theyre saved ,etc. and that u will know them by their fruits and i dont have many of those good fruits. I dunno guys ive just been struggling bad. Stomach in knots. Has me exhausted. I hate assuming im saved or feeling unsaved i want to absolutelt KNOW im saved and see more evidence of it in my life. Has anyone felt this way and struggled like this? Its eternity on the line and i dont wanna mess it up

I used to have the same problem. God led me to realize that relying on personal interpretations of books in the bible was unreliable and that denominations built upon their private interpretation of books alone was building a foundation upon sinking sand.

I recommend reading the writings of the early church fathers to see what the early Christians believed. I think you'll find that it's the same as what the Catholic and Orthodox churches teach today. I hope to join one of those churches so I can build my faith upon a solid rock that has remained unchanged for the past 2000 years so I can be certain of the true and correct teaching of Christ.

 

[Greg Merrill]

Hey all. undergoing alot of spiritual attacks lately. With all the signs pointing to the end times- rev 12 sign, all these ppl saying the rapture can happen any day now,etc it has caused me to look at myself and desire to know for certain i am truly saved. Ive been in the Word,praying,watching youtube vid after youtube vid on salvation assurance, yet i still question it all and feel like what if something isnt right with me? I dont want to be one of those to whom God says "depart from me i never knew u ye worker of iniquity". I dont want to be left behind either. Ive questioned my sincerity when ive asked Christ into my life. These voices pop in my head like "are u really sure God is real?", "do u really fully surrender to Jesus?" "What if you arent being truly sincere?", "why do u still feel like somethings missing?" Also verses that say u cant serve two masters and we should hate the world. I still feel worldly often. Im a movie fanatic and lover of music and neither of those are really of God. So because i enjoy those things does that mean im doomed as well? Also i watched a youtube series on salvation assurance and the pastor mentioned how many christians are deceived into thinking theyre saved ,etc. and that u will know them by their fruits and i dont have many of those good fruits. I dunno guys ive just been struggling bad. Stomach in knots. Has me exhausted. I hate assuming im saved or feeling unsaved i want to absolutelt KNOW im saved and see more evidence of it in my life. Has anyone felt this way and struggled like this? Its eternity on the line and i dont wanna mess it up

Lots of people have felt like you. Father, I pray that people will learn not to go by their feelings, and realize we still have a sinful nature after being saved, and that our assurance is in the reliability of Your Word, not these other things. Your Word says to call on You, and we will be saved (Romans 10:13; Acts 2:21; John 3:16). Let us trust in You and Your Word, not in our fluctuating feelings, and seasons of unfruitfulness. Amen.

 

[T.S.Bland]

I'm learning that this is a life long process. If you believe in your heart that Jesus died for our sins...
That's the main thing.
Ask God to help you with your doubts.
Pray for the Holy Spirit to guide you every day.
I don't watch t.v. that much but I do read constantly.

Look up A.W. Tozer

His books are very helpful in giving the reader clarity in faith.
- I talk back to the Devil
- The Attributes of God
- How to be filled with the Holy Spirit
- And He Dwelt Among Us
These are just a few... He is my favorite.
Reading the scripture along with Tozer books have given me answers to so much doubt.

Another very good author is
Lee Stroble.
If you ever question God or your faith his books will put that to rest.
Let me know what you think. I recommend both authors to anyone with questions.
Pray-Read-Do some volunteer work.
That will fix you right up.

 

[Lucian Hodoboc]

I can relate to most of what you're experiencing. Perhaps the devil is making us doubt our salvation. The only thing I can think would help is pray and do good works. Salvation is not earned by works alone, but if the faith is not 100% I'm guessing works might be taken into account.

 

[Pilgrim]

O LORD, thank you for your many blessings. We know God hears our prayers. In your Holy Word, the Bible, David is called a man after God's own heart because he demonstrated he had absolute faith in God. I pray that God will help Zimmer's faith grow and strengthen in Christ. May the spirit of the LORD come upon your heart. I pray in agreement with many of the other prayers here too. God's will be done. In the name of Jesus. Amen.

I will dance like David for the Lord!
Glory to Our God!
Glory to Jesus Christ!
Glory to Holy Spirit!
Praise Almighty God.​

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[jax5434]

Hey all. undergoing alot of spiritual attacks lately. With all the signs pointing to the end times- rev 12 sign, all these ppl saying the rapture can happen any day now,etc it has caused me to look at myself and desire to know for certain i am truly saved. Ive been in the Word,praying,watching youtube vid after youtube vid on salvation assurance, yet i still question it all and feel like what if something isnt right with me? I dont want to be one of those to whom God says "depart from me i never knew u ye worker of iniquity". I dont want to be left behind either. Ive questioned my sincerity when ive asked Christ into my life. These voices pop in my head like "are u really sure God is real?", "do u really fully surrender to Jesus?" "What if you arent being truly sincere?", "why do u still feel like somethings missing?" Also verses that say u cant serve two masters and we should hate the world. I still feel worldly often. Im a movie fanatic and lover of music and neither of those are really of God. So because i enjoy those things does that mean im doomed as well? Also i watched a youtube series on salvation assurance and the pastor mentioned how many christians are deceived into thinking theyre saved ,etc. and that u will know them by their fruits and i dont have many of those good fruits. I dunno guys ive just been struggling bad. Stomach in knots. Has me exhausted. I hate assuming im saved or feeling unsaved i want to absolutelt KNOW im saved and see more evidence of it in my life. Has anyone felt this way and struggled like this? Its eternity on the line and i dont wanna mess it up

Romans 10:9
"If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
Trust Gods promise, not your feelings/emotions or the words anyone who tries to tell you there is more to it that.
Your confession has to be sincere of course but that is it.

 

[samir]

Always listen to your conscience. Many false prophets quote scripture out of context to teach that salvation is as easy as just believing something about Jesus and confessing it with your mouth but if you're guilty of sin your conscience may cause you to feel uneasy so it's important to know what salvation is based upon according to the constant teaching of scripture:

John 5:28-29 "the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation (NKJV)"

 

[paul1149]

Its eternity on the line and i dont wanna mess it up

Give your conscience a careful hearing, but especially if you're relatively new in the Lord, do not give it unexamined reign. Consciences can be healthy, but they can be either seared or scrupulous as well, so they're not necessarily trustworthy. Everything has to be proven by the Word.

If you've made the sincere Good Confession, a la Rom 10.9-10, as Jax has mentioned, you are saved. Dwell in the land and feed on the Lord's faithfulness. Make everything about His goodness, kindness and faithfulness, and not your performance. When He gives you light, do obey it, but His light will be attended by clarity and spiritual peace, not confusion and fear.

Dwell in passages such as Mt 11.28-30, Romans 8, 2Cor 3, and 1Jn 3-4. "When our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart and knows all things." And learn to put on the full armor of god (Eph 6.10-) and take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ (2Cor 12).

These voices pop in my head like "are u really sure God is real?", "do u really fully surrender to Jesus?" "What if you arent being truly sincere?", "why do u still feel like somethings missing?"

Those don't sound like the words of loving Father toward you. They sound like the words of the accuser, who wants to stall your progress. Here's what I would do.

• Do an examination of conscience, and confess all known sin. If there is anything you have to do to set things right, such as making reparations for offenses or forgiving others their offenses, do so to the best of your ability, according to the wisdom of God as described in James 3. You have now cleaned the slate.
• Go to the Lord and tell Him what you've just done, and ask Him to please tell you if there is anything else that is undone. IOW, express your willingness.
• Now you have satisfied all demands of conscience. Any further accusations you can put to rest much more quickly. There is no double jeopardy in the Kingdom. Jesus paid it all, and if we have confessed, God promises to both forgive and cleanse.
• Feel free to move forward in Christ into the newness of life. There is nothing to hold you back any more.
• As for the preachers who instill chronic fear, be very careful. There is a place for fear, as some need it in order to wake up. But many get stuck there, and that is not good. The Lord's dominant goal is to bring us out of fear and into faith.

 

[TheSeekerOfTruth]

Hmm... You think you may not be saved? I get that thought too sometimes, we all think those thoughts very often. Sometimes the Spirit of God likes to remind us who we are in Christ, he convicts are hearts to turn from things that are not pleasing to God. You can always ask our Father who will kindly tell you what needs to change. After all you're on the potter's wheel, you're still being made into something greater.

God's not looking for a perfect performance, he's looking for hearts who are willing to serve him and turn to him when they need something that's in line to his will. Jesus knows where you are, just stick close to him, you two share the same progress. Try not to do things by yourself, let Jesus help you in doing the things you need to do for him.

Peace be with you, Friend.

 

[toLiJC]

Hey all. undergoing alot of spiritual attacks lately. With all the signs pointing to the end times- rev 12 sign, all these ppl saying the rapture can happen any day now,etc it has caused me to look at myself and desire to know for certain i am truly saved. Ive been in the Word,praying,watching youtube vid after youtube vid on salvation assurance, yet i still question it all and feel like what if something isnt right with me? I dont want to be one of those to whom God says "depart from me i never knew u ye worker of iniquity". I dont want to be left behind either. Ive questioned my sincerity when ive asked Christ into my life. These voices pop in my head like "are u really sure God is real?", "do u really fully surrender to Jesus?" "What if you arent being truly sincere?", "why do u still feel like somethings missing?" Also verses that say u cant serve two masters and we should hate the world. I still feel worldly often. Im a movie fanatic and lover of music and neither of those are really of God. So because i enjoy those things does that mean im doomed as well? Also i watched a youtube series on salvation assurance and the pastor mentioned how many christians are deceived into thinking theyre saved ,etc. and that u will know them by their fruits and i dont have many of those good fruits. I dunno guys ive just been struggling bad. Stomach in knots. Has me exhausted. I hate assuming im saved or feeling unsaved i want to absolutelt KNOW im saved and see more evidence of it in my life. Has anyone felt this way and struggled like this? Its eternity on the line and i dont wanna mess it up

what i can tell you for sure is how the true Saints solve this problem (at least for themselves); in short, They work for overall salvation in the true Lord God knowing that there is no way God can't save the ones that work for overall salvation in Him, however, They do it not in order to receive a reward for themselves, but in order to bring (full) salvation for as many humans/souls as possible (because after all They are actuated by unfeigned love for their brother/neighbor/townsman/cohabitant)

Blessings

 

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[Blood Bought 1953]

Romans 10:8-13 (NASB):
But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" -- that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed."

For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for "Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved."

I hope that my thread that I posted yesterday is not contributing to your turmoil. If so, I am deeply sorry, as that was not the intention of my thread at all.

There is no "level" of belief necessary. You either believe in Jesus or you don't. You don't have to reach some "really level of belief." If you trust in Jesus as your Lord and Savior, and you believe in His death and resurrection, you are saved.

It's faith plus nothing.

I will pray for you.

N

Romans 10:8-13 (NASB):
But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" -- that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed."

For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for "Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved."

I hope that my thread that I posted yesterday is not contributing to your turmoil. If so, I am deeply sorry, as that was not the intention of my thread at all.

There is no "level" of belief necessary. You either believe in Jesus or you don't. You don't have to reach some "really level of belief." If you trust in Jesus as your Lord and Savior, and you believe in His death and resurrection, you are saved.

It's faith plus nothing.

I will pray for you.

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

Baby.....I just joined this forum minutes ago and was going to try to help this person...and then I read your post.....I could not have said it better......you used the very same verses that I have been teaching my daughter since she was very young....Romans 10:13 is the single most assuring verse in the entire Bible ."....I have found that it shuts the mouths of those who like to argue a faith plus works doctrine.......the verse does not say "has a chance to be saved" or that "anybody who asks to be saved will be put on probation".....it says WILL be saved.."......I sincerely hope this promise of God will be a Valuable anchor for your faith.....