Salvadoran fugitive convicted in deadly attack of Maryland hiker

[Oompa Loompa]

Can we at least try? Of course, there is a well known shortage of immigration judges (which the proposed bipartisan bill would have remedied). The US has some 340M citizens and a ton of visitors every year - each and every one is entitled to due process under the law.
The US is one of the richest, most powerful of nations - if we can't uphold our own laws, then we are a failed state:

A failed state is composed of feeble and flawed institutions. Often, the executive barely functions, while the legislature, judiciary, bureaucracy, and armed forces have lost their capacity and professional independence. A failed state suffers from crumbling infrastructures, faltering utility supplies and educational and health facilities, and deteriorating basic human-development indicators, such as infant mortality and literacy rates. Failed states create an environment of flourishing corruption and negative growth rates, where honest economic activity cannot flourish.​

This administration's flouting of its laws, ignoring court orders, attacks on education, dismantling the Civil Service and other governmental functions is causing our nation to fail miserably and it's taking much of the outside world with it.

Or, according to the Trump, option that the majority of Americans have supported, wants to stop the problem at the root (illegals comming into the country) and then dealing with the ones who are already here. As of now, the Trump policy is to stut the border and go after the violent degenerates, and if other non-citizens are with that person, they are arrested, and given a swift hearing to prove they are legal occupants (due process). Then, if they cannot, they are swiftly deported back to their home country. This is their due process that they deserve.

 

[DaisyDay]

I would, photo op or no. Because she at least seems to get it.

Which is more than Rachel Morin's children allegedly got from their grandmother's GoFundMe.

Rachel Morin family battles each other in court over GoFundMe proceeds

A family fight over fundraiser proceeds in the name of Rachel Morin, the Harford County mother of five raped and murdered last summer along the Ma & Pa Trail.

www.wmar2news.com

I don't know how the suit ended, but that they had to sue...

 

[DaisyDay]

Or, according to the Trump, option that the majority of Americans have supported, wants to stop the problem at the root (illegals comming into the country) and then dealing with the ones who are already here. As of now, the Trump policy is to stut the border and go after the violent degenerates,

That was Obama's policy, to target violent criminals first, as resources were limited.

and if other non-citizens are with that person, they are arrested, and given a swift hearing to prove they are legal occupants (due process).

That's due process if you include releasing the legal occupants! Unfortunately, ICE is also arresting citizens and holding them even when they have id on them. They are also revoking visas with no notice, then arresting the visa holders for not having a visa. And now, there are the tourists....

Then, if they cannot, they are swiftly deported back to their home country. This is their due process that they deserve.

Agreed, but that's not happening. Venezuelans are deported to El Salvador, not Venezuela.

 

[Jermayn]

Can we at least try? Of course, there is a well known shortage of immigration judges (which the proposed bipartisan bill would have remedied). The US has some 340M citizens and a ton of visitors every year - each and every one is entitled to due process under the law.
The US is one of the richest, most powerful of nations - if we can't uphold our own laws, then we are a failed state:

A failed state is composed of feeble and flawed institutions. Often, the executive barely functions, while the legislature, judiciary, bureaucracy, and armed forces have lost their capacity and professional independence. A failed state suffers from crumbling infrastructures, faltering utility supplies and educational and health facilities, and deteriorating basic human-development indicators, such as infant mortality and literacy rates. Failed states create an environment of flourishing corruption and negative growth rates, where honest economic activity cannot flourish.​

This administration's flouting of its laws, ignoring court orders, attacks on education, dismantling the Civil Service and other governmental functions is causing our nation to fail miserably and it's taking much of the outside world with it.

I completely agree that we should be trying. After all, the constitution does provide due process, but when getting a trial can take up to 10 years, something is obviously broken.

 

[DaisyDay]

I completely agree that we should be trying. After all, the constitution does provide due process, but when getting a trial can take up to 10 years, something is obviously broken.

Yes, the system is a mess and getting messier every day. Due process may be only a hearing rather than a full blown trial, but even then, we don't have enough immigration judges to give even a ten minute hearing to each deportee. We need more, not fewer, judges.

 

[wing2000]

Yes, the system is a mess and getting messier every day. Due process may be only a hearing rather than a full blown trial, but even then, we don't have enough immigration judges to give even a ten minute hearing to each deportee. We need more, not fewer, judges.

...instead, Trump is reportedly dismissing immigration judges:

At least eight immigration judges received notices that they would be put on leave and their employment would be terminated on April 22, according to two people familiar with the firings and to the International Federation of Professional and Technical Engineers union, which represents immigration judges. The two people spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.

The judges who received the notices weren't given a reason for the terminations.

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/22/nx-s1-5372681/trump-immigration-judges-fired

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Which is more than Rachel Morin's children allegedly got from their grandmother's GoFundMe.

Rachel Morin family battles each other in court over GoFundMe proceeds

A family fight over fundraiser proceeds in the name of Rachel Morin, the Harford County mother of five raped and murdered last summer along the Ma & Pa Trail.

www.wmar2news.com

I don't know how the suit ended, but that they had to sue...

This is just another example of Trump trolling the left. Because they cannot stand siding with Trump on anything, as seen in his statement to congress, he can easily trap democrats by saying, "Let's honor this kid who has been battling cancer." Or, "let's honor the mother of a daughter who was violently raped and and killed by a thug that came from another country and should be deported." And the left will predictivly defend the murderous thug or mock the child. Talk about eating your nose to spite your face.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Agreed, but that's not happening. Venezuelans are deported to El Salvador, not Venezuela.

In other words, Tren De Agua terrorists are being sent to a terrorist facility in El Salvador.

 

[DaisyDay]

This is just another example of Trump trolling the left.

Not really. The children of Rachel Morin really did sue their grandmother over the money from her GoFundMe page. I don't know the outcome as I have said before but that happened.

Because they cannot stand siding with Trump on anything, as seen in his statement to congress, he can easily trap democrats by saying, "Let's honor this kid who has been battling cancer. Or, let's honor the mother of a daughter who was violently raped and and killed by thugs that have come from other countries should be deported."

Victims are tragic, but mere victimhood doesn't make them saints. Parading them around at political events to score points is simply political theatre. Does anyone actually fall for the trap that if your opponent is not sufficiently performative, you've won? I call that exploiting the victims for political and personal gain. It's not as good a look as some suppose.

And the left will predictivly defend the murderous thug or moxk the child. Talk about eating your nose to spite your face.

And this is the right telling fantastical tales about the left. I've seen no one defend the murderous thug, but I have seen folks, mostly from the right, conflate normal aliens with murderous thugs in order to dehumanize them.

 

[DaisyDay]

In other words, Tren De Agua terrorists are being sent to a terrorist facility in El Salvador.

That kinda conflicts with the earlier "Then, if they cannot, they are swiftly deported back to their home country.This is their due process that they deserve. "

If we don't follow our own laws then our nation is lawless.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Not really. The children of Rachel Morin really did sue their grandmother over the money from her GoFundMe page. I don't know the outcome as I have said before but that happened.

Okay? What's your point?

Victims are tragic, but mere victimhood doesn't make them saints. Parading them around at political events to score points is simply political theatre. Does anyone actually fall for the trap that if your opponent is not sufficiently performative, you've won? I call that exploiting the victims for political and personal gain. It's not as good a look as some suppose.

Kinda like how a another El Salvadorian thug is being paraded to score political points?

I've seen no one defend the murderous thug

No. They are just attacking the victim about various relational lawsuits that have nothing to do with the topic.

 

[DaisyDay]

Okay? What's your point?

Rachel Morin and her children were victims while Patty got paid.

Kinda like how a another El Salvadorian thug is being paraded to score political points?

If you are referring to Abrego Garcia, no one has paraded him anywhere as he was sent to the gulag for political points and for cruelty. Bukele did ridiculously put margaritas on the table for a political photo op that a gullible few fell for.

No. They are just attacking the victim about various relational lawsuits that have nothing to do with the topic.

This directly contradicts the previous, "And the left will predictivly defend the murderous thug...." even though the left has not done so. Rachel Morin is the victim; "they" are not attacking her.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Rachel Morin and her children were victims while Patty got paid.

Yeah? Who is Patty and what does she have to do with the topic?

This directly contradicts the previous,

Again, who is Patty and why is she relevant to the topic?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

This is just another example of Trump trolling the left. Because they cannot stand siding with Trump on anything, as seen in his statement to congress, he can easily trap democrats by saying, "Let's honor this kid who has been battling cancer." Or, "let's honor the mother of a daughter who was violently raped and and killed by a thug that came from another country and should be deported." And the left will predictivly defend the murderous thug or mock the child. Talk about eating your nose to spite your face.

All that shows is each of those cases are seen just as props to be used to get the other side in some gotcha’s.

 

[rjs330]

All that shows is each of those cases are seen just as props to be used to get the other side in some gotcha’s.

It just shows that we care about the victims. The Democrats hate Trump so bad and love their illegals so much that they care more about their hatred and illegal criminals that won't show any support for real victims.

 

[DaisyDay]

It just shows that we care about the victims.

Sure, if the particular victims are politically useful as props at campaign events.

The Democrats hate Trump so bad and love their illegals so much that they care more about their hatred and illegal criminals that won't show any support for real victims.

Slander, silly propagandistic slander. The current administration cares so much for victims it cut off FEMA and USAID while seeking to cut back on SSI, SS and Medicaid in order to fund tax cuts to the wealthy and ultra-wealthy.

 

[rjs330]

Slander, silly propagandistic slander. The current administration cares so much for victims it cut off FEMA and USAID while seeking to cut back on SSI, SS and Medicaid in order to fund tax cuts to the wealthy and ultra-wealthy.

Nope, not a single Democrat showed support for these victims. What Democrat did?

You are spreading propaganda that you are hearing from left wing media and lying Democrats. It's the Trump hatred.

 

[DaisyDay]

Nope, not a single Democrat showed support for these victims. What Democrat did?

Which victims are "these" victims? If you are still talking about the so-called victims who were paraded at political events (exploitation) why would any non-MAGA applaud them? They are not heroes, just unfortunate. The non-Magadonians support actual victims by authorizing and funding FEMA, Medicaid, cancer research, etc. - iow, actual useful material support.

You are spreading propaganda that you are hearing from left wing media and lying Democrats. It's the Trump hatred.

Pure vague, unsupported bunkum. Also a personal attack and many ad homs.