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Safe place to explore an orthodox theology of Sabbath?

Discussion in 'Scripture,Tradition,Reason-Anglican & Old Catholic' started by Carl Emerson, Jan 29, 2022.

  1. Carl Emerson

    Carl Emerson Well-Known Member

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    In what way???
     
  2. Paidiske

    Paidiske Clara bonam audax Supporter

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    "If you are not a member of this faith group, you may not debate issues or teach against it's theology. You may post in fellowship. Active promotion of views contrary to the established teachings of this group will be considered off topic."

    It's not for non-Anglicans to say what's orthodox in the Anglican forum.
     
  3. Carl Emerson

    Carl Emerson Well-Known Member

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    Understood, I am happy if it is just members that respond to the question.
     
  4. Carl Emerson

    Carl Emerson Well-Known Member

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    Maybe folks are on holiday?

    Have I wrongly assumed that this is an orthodox forum?
     
  5. Paidiske

    Paidiske Clara bonam audax Supporter

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    The Anglican forum is often quiet.

    I guess maybe, Carl, you could respond to what people have already replied to you, and see if anyone else feels they'd like to comment?
     
  6. Carl Emerson

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    Hi Paidiske

    This is all useful information and sounding like good common sense.

    Can you think of any documents I could refer to that might represent the orthodox position on the subject?

    I am a learner on the block... is orthodoxy well defined and set in stone or evolving?
     
  7. Paidiske

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    You might look at the homily "On the Place and Time of Prayer." Anglican Library - Homilies, Book 2, Homily 8

    Disclaimer that I have not read it recently and can't remember how well it lines up with your thoughts; I'm back at work today after some annual leave and a bit swamped here, so don't have time to do more just now.
     
  8. Carl Emerson

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    Thanks for that... No stress... enjoy your holiday.
     
  9. seeking.IAM

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    Carl, as I re-read your post, I might offer one slight twist on your conclusion of, "This makes Sunday the obvious choice." I am not a theologian and offer only one Anglican voice from the pew (for whatever that's worth). For me, I can better align myself with the statement, "This makes Sunday an acceptable choice." There are enough folks that disapprove to negate the choice as obvious.

    Jesus observed the Sabbath, but he also challenged the Pharisee's unyielding and strict interpretation of the law by healing on the Sabbath, walking about, and plucking and eating grain along the way, etc. In my life, my conclusion from that is (a) a Sabbath is to be kept and (b) the keeping of it (spirit) is more important than the day (law).

    However, as I have said before I honor the tradition of the church. The Christian church has maintained Sunday as its primary day of worship for centuries, and that's good enough for me.

    Just as important or maybe more so, I also think we have grown very lax in adherence to Sabbath as a required day of rest regardless of which day is observed. It is as if we go to services and check that box as if we have done all that is required of us. I personally think God required more than that.

    I confess I would like to get back to something closer to the strict observance I grew up with in my parents' and grandparents' (non-Anglican) households. I've been trying to sort out if or how I can do that.
     
  10. Carl Emerson

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    Good points thanks.

    This then raises the issue of when the early church adopted Sunday observance. I have read conflicting claims about this.

    Secondly regarding Sabbath observance it seems less critical if we have individually entered His rest as we read in Heb 3 and 4.
     
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