Sabbatical Year

[rick357]

maybe because an oppressed people are a more praying and more observant and listening people? because they are seeking God to change it..

Blessed is he who gathers his fruit and purges his vines...may His Spirit burn away all chaff and leave only that wich can be a living offering to him.

 

[NannaNae]

did we figure out when jubilee is though ?
or where might we get that info
maybe someone educated guess will work !

 

[HannibalFlavius]

did we figure out when jubilee is though ?
or where might we get that info
maybe someone educated guess will work !

We always in Jubilee, there are 120 of them.

 

[Shimshon]

I belielve when Yeshua comes back will be a Jubilee year.

What comes to my mind here is 'redemption' and 'restoration'.

Lev 25
9 Then you shall sound the loud trumpet on the tenth day of the seventh month. On the Day of Atonement you shall sound the trumpet throughout all your land. 10 And you shall consecrate the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a jubilee for you, when each of you shall return to his property and each of you shall return to his clan.

Luke 4
16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And as was his custom, he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up to read. 17 And the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written,

18"The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed,19to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."

20 And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were fixed on him. 21 And he began to say to them, "Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing."
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This is the restoration of Yisrael that is spoken of by the prophets.

Isaiah 11:11-12, 43:5-7, 66:13-23
Jeremiah 23:3, 5-8
Ezekiel 11:17-20
Ezekiel 20 & 34
Ezekiel 36 & 37

Ezekiel 20:33-44 The Lord will restore Israel

33 “As I live, declares the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and with wrath poured out I will be king over you. 34 I will bring you out from the peoples and gather you out of the countries where you are scattered, with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm, and with wrath poured out. 35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the peoples, and there I will enter into judgment with you face to face. 36 As I entered into judgment with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so I will enter into judgment with you, declares the Lord GOD. 37 I will make you pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant. 38 I will purge out the rebels from among you, and those who transgress against me. I will bring them out of the land where they sojourn, but they shall not enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the LORD.

39 “As for you, O house of Israel, thus says the Lord GOD: Go serve every one of you his idols, now and hereafter, if you will not listen to me; but my holy name you shall no more profane with your gifts and your idols. 40 “For on my holy mountain, the mountain height of Israel, declares the Lord GOD, there all the house of Israel, all of them, shall serve me in the land. There I will accept them, and there I will require your contributions and the choicest of your gifts, with all your sacred offerings. 41 As a pleasing aroma I will accept you, when I bring you out from the peoples and gather you out of the countries where you have been scattered. And I will manifest my holiness among you in the sight of the nations. 42 And you shall know that I am the LORD, when I bring you into the land of Israel, the country that I swore to give to your fathers. 43 And there you shall remember your ways and all your deeds with which you have defiled yourselves, and you shall loathe yourselves for all the evils that you have committed. 44 And you shall know that I am the LORD, when I deal with you for my name’s sake, not according to your evil ways, nor according to your corrupt deeds, O house of Israel, declares the Lord GOD.”


Ezekiel 34
11 “For thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I, I myself will search for my sheep and will seek them out. 12 As a shepherd seeks out his flock when he is among his sheep that have been scattered, so will I seek out my sheep, and I will rescue them from all places where they have been scattered on a day of clouds and thick darkness. 13 And I will bring them out from the peoples and gather them from the countries, and will bring them into their own land. And I will feed them on the mountains of Israel, by the ravines, and in all the inhabited places of the country. 14 I will feed them with good pasture, and on the mountain heights of Israel shall be their grazing land. There they shall lie down in good grazing land, and on rich pasture they shall feed on the mountains of Israel. 15 I myself will be the shepherd of my sheep, and I myself will make them lie down, declares the Lord GOD. 16 I will seek the lost, and I will bring back the strayed, and I will bind up the injured, and I will strengthen the weak, and the fat and the strong I will destroy. I will feed them in justice.

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This is the promised Jubilee. I believe it will happen when Messiah returns to judge and restore all things. This is what the Jubilee patterned, Yisrael's restoration in the world to come. The people (of Yisrael) return to the land.

 

[visionary]

If we go by Yeshua's Isaiah's Jubilee verses [Isa. 61:1-2]... He fulfilled the part He read and according to Josephus, the last Jubilee celebrated in the land was in the fall of 27 A.D. So the last part of the verse that Yeshua left out "great and terrible day" coming will also be a Jubilee year.

Based on the 49 year calculations, 27 AD as the start date, then 2036-2037 AD will be the 42nd Jubilee since Yeshua.
If using 50 year calculations 2027-2028, start date 27 AD, would be the 40th Jubilee since Yeshua.

There are those who believe that Daniels 70th week has to start at the beginning of a sabbatical week before Jubilee. Some say that 07-08 was a Sabbath year, based on the assumption that the Temple was destroyed in 68AD, and the following year was a Sabbath year.

I wish that 2018 was the Jubilee, and that would mean we would be going home soon. [That is based on the tetrad moons and 3 1/2 years.]

 

[Shimshon]

did we figure out when jubilee is though ?
or where might we get that info
maybe someone educated guess will work !

And what happens along with the people returning to the land? The redemption of our property.

Redemption of Property

23 "The land shall not be sold in perpetuity, for the land is mine. For you are strangers and sojourners with me. 24 And in all the country you possess, you shall allow a redemption of the land. 25 "If your brother becomes poor and sells part of his property, then his nearest redeemer shall come and redeem what his brother has sold. 26 If a man has no one to redeem it and then himself becomes prosperous and finds sufficient means to redeem it, 27 let him calculate the years since he sold it and pay back the balance to the man to whom he sold it, and then return to his property. 28 But if he has not sufficient means to recover it, then what he sold shall remain in the hand of the buyer until the year of jubilee. In the jubilee it shall be released, and he shall return to his property. 29 "If a man sells a dwelling house in a walled city, he may redeem it within a year of its sale. For a full year he shall have the right of redemption. 30 If it is not redeemed within a full year, then the house in the walled city shall belong in perpetuity to the buyer, throughout his generations; it shall not be released in the jubilee. 31 But the houses of the villages that have no wall around them shall be classified with the fields of the land. They may be redeemed, and they shall be released in the jubilee.

32 As for the cities of the Levites, the Levites may redeem at any time the houses in the cities they possess. 33 And if one of the Levites exercises his right of redemption, then the house that was sold in a city they possess shall be released in the jubilee. For the houses in the cities of the Levites are their possession among the people of Israel. 34 But the fields of pastureland belonging to their cities may not be sold, for that is their possession forever.
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The word that is popping out to me here is 'redeemed'.

Luke 1
67 And his father Zechariah was filled with the Holy Spirit and prophesied, saying, 68"Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, for he has visited and redeemed his people 69 and has raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David, 70as he spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets from of old, 71that we should be saved from our enemies and from the hand of all who hate us; 72to show the mercy promised to our fathers and to remember his holy covenant, 73the oath that he swore to our father Abraham, to grant us

Galatians 3
13 The Messiah redeemed us from the curse pronounced in the Torah by becoming cursed on our behalf; for the Tanakh says, "Everyone who hangs from a stake comes under a curse."

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So, I believe we are already redeemed and are waiting for the jubilee to be restored to the land. But we have been redeemed as a people according to the pattern of Jubilee, our debt has been paid, our property will be restored in the Jubilee year of Yeshua's return.

 

[NannaNae]

HF said

We always in Jubilee, there are 120 of them.

and believe it at one level and I don't at another level .
I believe it in a personal and spiritual level.. I don't believe it is a physical truth. in the same way the church is his temple/kingdom now it is more
" spiritual" and very very internal and we are not to take or build anything of a physical kingdom . remember HE tried to give a kingdom first once upon a time and it got humanity zipppity do.. and not far into a relationship with him either .

they only had a relationship with a building and a social structure / religion .. so this time his reality/kingdom isn't all that physical yet ( thy kingdom come ) it is to be built in our souls now.... that is what we all to prepare for now...
we either are ready or not, here it comes..

it is going to be like this parable everyone is invited few get ready..

Mat 22:2
The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

Mat 22:3
And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

Mat 22:4
Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

Mat 22:5
But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

Mat 22:6
And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

Mat 22:7
But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

Mat 22:8
Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

Mat 22:9
Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

Mat 22:10
So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

Mat 22:11
And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

Mat 22:12
And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

Mat 22 :13
Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Mat 22:14
For many are called, but few are chosen.

it is kind of told a few ways in other places .. we should read them all.. very interesting.

I think it is just time for us to prepare to build his kingdom ... we like David are now men of death/ blood/ fallen but forgiven . but David could prepared the stuff of a building for " for the one greater/(older? ) than Solomon" to do it in his time ..
we can not build it yet. He has to . I think we are only to prepare for maybe somewhere around a 3 1/2 year building party..

but this time the hearts and clothes are right and willing before a physical kingdom is given.

 

[HannibalFlavius]

My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."


120 times 50 jubilee years.

6000

 

[Shimshon]

I think it is just time for us to prepare to build his kingdom ... we like David are now men of death/ blood/ fallen but forgiven . but David could prepared the stuff of a building for " for the one greater/(older? ) than Solomon" to do it in his time ..
we can not build it yet. He has to . I think we are only to prepare for maybe somewhere around a 3 1/2 year building party..

but this time the hearts and clothes are right and willing before a physical kingdom is given.

This is an interesting coorelation that hasn't crossed my mind yet. Cool! I have a list of many parallels within the scriptures but i've not been enlightened to this one before. Both are forms/shadows of our Messiah. It has a pattern of the suffering servant. But with David being the suffering one and Solomon being the conquering king. Weird shift! Thanks for the nugget!

 

[NannaNae]

I wish that 2018 was the Jubilee, and that would mean we would be going home soon. [That is based on the tetrad moons and 3 1/2 years.]

I hear you!

he talks about shortening things ... I know that the trib even the days are numbered too so what time is he shortening I wonder ...

 

[NannaNae]

My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."


120 times 50 jubilee years.

6000

OHOHOHOHOH!!!!! That is soo cool!

 

[rick357]

My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."

120 times 50 jubilee years.

6000

Tyvm

 

[Steve Petersen]

This question puts the Jubilee in doubt: Was the Jubilee year also the first year of the next sabbatical period?

If yes, then Jubilee is every 50 years. That would mean that you have two years in a row where nothing could be planted.

If no, then Jubilees is every 49 years.

 

[NannaNae]

This is an interesting coorelation that hasn't crossed my mind yet. Cool! I have a list of many parallels within the scriptures but i've not been enlightened to this one before. Both are forms/shadows of our Messiah. It has a pattern of the suffering servant. But with David being the suffering one and Solomon being the conquering king. Weird shift! Thanks for the nugget!

to me that concept falls under the "keys of David" concepts/ or lessons. Jesus holds those keys to the kingdom out there for all who want them. and they are offered/presented under the church of Philadelphia for a few good reason too.
some cool things hiding there too .

 

[Shimshon]

This question puts the Jubilee in doubt: Was the Jubilee year also the first year of the next sabbatical period?

If yes, then Jubilee is every 50 years. That would mean that you have two years in a row where nothing could be planted.

If no, then Jubilees is every 49 years.

After considering this text I am more inclined to believe it's every 50th year.

Lev 25
10 And you shall consecrate the fiftieth year, and http://www.biblestudytools.com/esv/leviticus/25.html#cr-descriptionAnchor-7proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a jubilee for you, when each of you shall return to his property and each of http://www.biblestudytools.com/esv/leviticus/25.html#cr-descriptionAnchor-8you shall return to his clan. 11 That fiftieth year shall be a jubilee for you

 

[Shimshon]

according to Josephus, the last Jubilee celebrated in the land was in the fall of 27 A.D. [That is based on the tetrad moons and 3 1/2 years.]

I'm still not sure of this date.

According to Josephus, 24 B.C. was a Sabbatical year, and 23 B.C. was a Jubilee year.

I see nowhere that Josephus mentions the yovel. I only see mention of the shemitah. Where do you account that Josephus eluded to a 23 b.c. yovel?

 

[visionary]

This question puts the Jubilee in doubt: Was the Jubilee year also the first year of the next sabbatical period?

If yes, then Jubilee is every 50 years. That would mean that you have two years in a row where nothing could be planted.

1st year
2nd year
3rd year
4th year
5th year
6th year
7th year - sabbath year
1st year - Jubilee year
2nd year - etc....

That is how the 49 year cycle works

 

[visionary]

I'm still not sure of this date.

I see nowhere that Josephus mentions the yovel. I only see mention of the shemitah. Where do you account that Josephus eluded to a 23 b.c. yovel?

Take it with a grain of salt...

The Chronology of Josephus, in its present state, is a mass of confusion and inconsistency. Indeed after making every allowance for corruptions of his text, both designed and accidental, there remains much reason for supposing that, Chronology being with him but a secondary object, he was not over careful in his calculations, and was even sometimes inconsistent with himself. But though it should thus appear, that it would be unsafe to look to him for the correct outline of a chronological scheme, he may still be an excellent authority for our present purpose, which is rather to discover the source from whence he derived his numbers, than to depend upon his exactness in combining them. (Sacred Chronology, by Godfrey Faussett, Oxford, p. 23.)

Josephus said Herod invaded Jerusalem during a Shabbat Year (Antiquties 14:16:2), and said his 7th years was the Battle of Actium (Ant 15:5:2, Wars 1:19:3). So that sounds like Tishri 38BC - 37BC, Tishri 31BC - 30BC, etc., were Sabbatical Years, since a Sabbath Year was in progress when he attacked that spring, so 6 years later would have been the 6th year of the 7 year cycle in Spring of 31BC. Also, 1Maccabees 6:20,49 records one for the 150th Seleucid period (164-163 BC) which comes out to an integer multiple of 7 from the record by Josephus. So Maccabees and Joseph agree.

Translating this to modern times, we get...

164-163 BC was a Sabbatical year based on the Maccabees
157-156 BC
150-149 BC
143-142 BC
136-135 BC
129-128 BC
122-121 BC
115-114 BC
108-107 BC
101-100 BC
94-93 BC
87-86 BC
80-79 BC
73-72 BC
66-67 BC
59-58 BC
52-51 BC
45-44 BC
38-37 BC was a Sabbatical year which Josephus mentions
31-30 BC
29-28 BC
22-21 BC
15-14 BC
8-7 BC
Since there is no 0 year
1 BC - 1 AD
8-9 AD
15-16 AD
22-23 AD

27 AD Yeshua announced the coming Jubilee. I probably should have noted that the reference that Josephus indicated it was 27 AD came not from his writings. Some claim Josephus mentions a Jubilee in 27-28 AD based on a footnote that appears in book 15 chapter 9 of the writings of Josephus as published by Whiston.

30-31 AD Did Yeshua set the captives free with His death?

So I amend my calculations. Thank you for making me re-check my calculations.

 

[visionary]

Continuing my count down
37-38 AD
44-45 AD
51-52 AD
58-59 AD
65-66 AD
[68 AD - Destruction of the second temple]The Rambam on Counting Yovel. Every fifty years, after seven Sabbatical cycles of seven years, HaShem‘s people observe the yovel, or jubilee, year. Rambam narrows the Talmudic idea down further by saying that the destruction of the second temple happened in the 15th year of the 9th Jubilee (yovel) period.

People have calculated this to mean that 55-56 AD was a Jubilee year using his calculations. If Rambam was right, the next Jubilee year would be in Tishri 2015 to Tishri 2016 according to those who use Rambam's. Yovel (Jubilee) Years

 

[visionary]

Continue on down through this link I gave in the last post you will find...

If we examine the Yovel years that occur from the time of Ezra, where the count restarted in the year 3416, we find a startling result:

The 46th Yovel took place in the year 5678 (1917/1918CE), the year of the Balfour Declaration.
The 47th Yovel took place in the year 5727 (1966/1967CE), the year of the Six-Day War and the Unification of Jerusalem.

Add 49 years to 1966 and you get 2015.