Sabbath and Law-Keepers - Gracious convo please!

[Dave-W]

Jesus was not spreading the "gospel" of the ten commandments, and neither were the apostles.

Um - the Sermon on the Mount was all about the 10 commandments.

 

[BobRyan]

in Acts 15 and in Acts 21 there is no reference at all to

1. Do not make graven images
2. Do not take God's name in vain
3. Honor your parents
4. Do not murder
5. Do not lie
6. Love God with all your heart Deut 6:5
7. Love your neighbor as yourself Lev 19:18

None of that is found in Acts 15 or Acts 21.

And your point?

Do you suggest that since we are gentiles we burn our bibles leaving only Acts 15 and Acts 21 in??

I think we both know you cannot make that recommendation.

Oddly, not one mention of the Sabbath in Matthew 5 or even Matthew 6. Perhaps because *Jesus* fulfilled the purpose of the Sabbath

Matt 5 does not mention

1. Do not make graven images
2. Do not take God's name in vain
3. Honor your parents

5. Do not lie
6. Love God with all your heart Deut 6:5
7. Love your neighbor as yourself Lev 19:18

None of that is found in Acts 15 or Acts 21.

And your point?

Is it your claim that Christ came so Christians can take God's name in vain without giving it a second thought? I think we both know that is not true.

Matthew 5 does say this -
glorify your Father who is in heaven.

17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

1 John 5:2-3
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and observe His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome.

Rev 14:12 saints "keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus"

"what matters is keeping the commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19

"do we then make void the Law of God by our faith? God forbid! in fact we ESTABLISH the LAW of God" Rom 3:31

The distinction between lost and saved in Romans 8:4-9 is that the lost "do not submit to the LAW of God - neither indeed CAN they"

That would be covered under "things polluted by idols."

That one is "or blood," which if taken from the Noachide laws reads "shedding of innocent blood." (murder)

In acts 15 we have this -
27 “Therefore we have sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will also report the same things by word of mouth. 28 “For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these essentials: 29 that you abstain from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication; if you keep yourselves free from such things, you will do well. Farewell.”

1. Do not make graven images
2. Do not take God's name in vain
3. Honor your parents
4. Do not murder
5. Do not lie
6. Love God with all your heart Deut 6:5
7. Love your neighbor as yourself Lev 19:18

1. abstain from things sacrificed to idols -- is about not eating food sacrificed to idols and notice that in 1 Cor 8 and 10 Paul says this does not apply to Jewish Christians since they know that an idol is nothing. If you make it say "don't make images and worship them" then it would always apply to Jews.

2. Abstain from blood and things strangled - is about food laws in the OT against eating food with blood.

Lev 17
10 ‘And any man from the house of Israel, or from the aliens who sojourn among them, who eats any blood, I will set My face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people. 11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood by reason of the life that makes atonement.’ 12 Therefore I said to the sons of Israel, ‘No person among you may eat blood, nor may any alien who sojourns among you eat blood.’ 13 So when any man from the sons of Israel, or from the aliens who sojourn among them, in hunting catches a beast or a bird which may be eaten, he shall pour out its blood and cover it with earth.

14 “For as for the life of all flesh, its blood is identified with its life. Therefore I said to the sons of Israel, ‘You are not to eat the blood of any flesh, for the life of all flesh is its blood; whoever eats it shall be cut off.’


By definition an animal that is strangled instead of cut - still has the blood in it.

 

[Dave-W]

2. Abstain from blood and things strangled - is about food laws in the OT against eating food with blood.

"Blood" and "strangled" are 2 separate issues.

If blood was about food, the strangled part would have it covered already. Strangling coagulates the blood and makes it impossible to remove.

 

[bekkilyn]

Um - the Sermon on the Mount was all about the 10 commandments.

Jesus only elaborated on nine of the ten commandments in his sermon on the mount. The commandment to observe the Sabbath was mysteriously missing. However, the Gospel is not the ten commandments regardless of how much some people really want them to be the "good news" that Jesus died on the cross for.

 

[BobRyan]

"Blood" and "strangled" are 2 separate issues.

Is there any place in all of scripture where "abstain from blood is not tied to - "from things strangled"??

If blood was about food, the strangled part would have it covered already. .

Only if you believe that all meat that is served is actually Kosher and drained from blood - since it was not strangled and most people like me would not take that as a starting point since the meat I see that is "rare" is often covered in blood ... and there are other forms as well. For example "blood pudding" comes from animals that were not strangled.

There is no text in the Bible were "abstain from blood" means "do not murder" - abstain is very specific.

 

[BobRyan]

Jesus only elaborated on nine of the ten commandments in his sermon on the mount. .

Sermon on the mount does not address

1. Do not take God's name in vain.
2. Love God with all your heart
3. Do not bow before or promise to serve idols

 

[Dave-W]

Is there any place in all of scripture where "abstain from blood is not tied to - "from things strangled"??



Only if you believe that all meat that is served is actually Kosher and drained from blood - since it was not strangled and most people like me would not take that as a starting point since the meat I see that is "rare" is often covered in blood ... and there are other forms as well. For example "blood pudding" comes from animals that were not strangled.

There is no text in the Bible were "abstain from blood" means "do not murder" - abstain is very specific.

I was referring to the Noachide laws; those 4 bear a striking resemblance and they were being formulated about that time.

 

[BobRyan]

I was referring to the Noachide laws; those 4 bear a striking resemblance and they were being formulated about that time.

I agree that in Genesis 9 this refers to food that has blood in it.
4 But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.


I agree that in Genesis 9 - this refers to murder -
5 Surely for your lifeblood I will demand a reckoning; from the hand of every beast I will require it, and from the hand of man. From the hand of every man’s brother I will require the life of man.
6 “Whoever sheds man’s blood,
By man his blood shall be shed;
For in the image of God
He made man.

 

[bekkilyn]

Sermon on the mount does not address

1. Do not take God's name in vain.

Matthew 5:33-37
"33 “Again, you have heard that it was said to those of ancient times, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but carry out the vows you have made to the Lord.’ 34 But I say to you, Do not swear at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God, 35 or by the earth, for it is his footstool, or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36 And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make one hair white or black. 37 Let your word be ‘Yes, Yes’ or ‘No, No’; anything more than this comes from the evil one."

2. Love God with all your heart

Not one of the ten commandments.

3. Do not bow before or promise to serve idols

Matthew 6:19-21
"19 “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal; 20 but store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."

Matthew 6:24
"24 “No one can serve two masters; for a slave will either hate the one and love the other, or be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth."

 

[BobRyan]

BobRyan said: ↑
Sermon on the mount does not address

1. Do not take God's name in vain.

Matthew 5:33-37
"33 “Again, you have heard that it was said to those of ancient times, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but carry out the vows you have made to the Lord.’

Exodus 20:16 -- do not lie. "Do not bear false witness" ... do not take an oath in court and lie. Do not promise God something and then fail to do it.

An entirely different command from
Exodus 20:7 "do not take God's name in vain"

 

[bekkilyn]

BobRyan said: ↑
Sermon on the mount does not address

1. Do not take God's name in vain.

Exodus 20:16 -- do not lie. "Do not bear false witness" ... do not take an oath in court and lie. Do not promise God something and then fail to do it.

An entirely different command from
Exodus 20:7 "do not take God's name in vain"

Taking God's name in vain is a misuse of God's name. Swearing a false oath in God's name is a misuse of his name.

However, if you wish to believe that it is yet another of the ten commandments that Jesus did not consider important enough to address, then interpret as you wish of course.

 

[bekkilyn]

An interesting passage related to this discussion. I've emphasized a few words.

Matthew 19:16-26
"16 Then someone came to him and said, “Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?” 17 And he said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” 18 He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder; You shall not commit adultery; You shall not steal; You shall not bear false witness; 19 Honor your father and mother; also, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 20 The young man said to him, “I have kept all these; what do I still lack?” 21 Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be perfect, go, sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.” 22 When the young man heard this word, he went away grieving, for he had many possessions.

23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it will be hard for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” 25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astounded and said, “Then who can be saved?” 26 But Jesus looked at them and said, “For mortals it is impossible, but for God all things are possible.”"

Note that even here there is nothing mentioned about observing the Sabbath, even when it comes to mortal attempts to earn salvation....to achieve perfection.

Law vs. Grace.

 

[BobRyan]

Taking God's name in vain is a misuse of God's name. Swearing a false oath in God's name is a misuse of his name.

Claiming to be a Christian but not living like one is a misuse of God's name. There are a lot of ways to draw tangential topics into this.

But we are looking for verbatim quotes of at least part of the text as in the case "do not commit adultery" quoted several times or "Honor your father and mother" quoted several times but never quoted in full in the NT.

The Sabbath commandment is quoted in just that same way - yet like the 5th commandment also 'not quoted in full'

by contrast "do not take God's name in vain" is not quoted at all in the NT.

However, if you wish to believe that it is yet another of the ten commandments that Jesus did not consider important enough to address, then interpret as you wish of course.

I don't claim that the lack of a verbatim quote means Jesus did not consider it important. Rather I claim that the detail is meaningless ... entirely meaningless. Jesus never said "consider all of scripture deleted except for the parts I quote and then cause to be written in the NT". All that sort of "made up stuff" is meaningless.

So I take the command to not take God's name in vain - point to the irrefutable detail that it is in fact "never quoted" in the NT -- and then appeal to the fact that this detail "does not matter" in terms of our obligation because God never said "Delete whatever I said before --- unless I repeat it again".

And I would point out that a great many scholars on the other side of the Sabbath-vs-Sunday debate from where I stand - agree with me that ALL TEN of the Ten Commandments are included in the moral law of God applicable to all mankind -- and what gets "repeated" here or there does not change that fact for them or for me.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

An interesting passage related to this discussion. I've emphasized a few words.

Matthew 19:16-26
"16 Then someone came to him and said, “Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?” 17 And he said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” 18 He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder; You shall not commit adultery; You shall not steal; You shall not bear false witness; 19 Honor your father and mother; also, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 20 The young man said to him, “I have kept all these; what do I still lack?” 21 Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be perfect, go, sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.” 22 When the young man heard this word, he went away grieving, for he had many possessions.

23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it will be hard for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” 25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astounded and said, “Then who can be saved?” 26 But Jesus looked at them and said, “For mortals it is impossible, but for God all things are possible.”"

Note that even here there is nothing mentioned about observing the Sabbath, even when it comes to mortal attempts to earn salvation....to achieve perfection.

Law vs. Grace.

There is a wonderful example where Christ does not mention "Love God with all your heart" or "Do not take God's name in vain" or "do not covet" or "do not worship false God's". The first 4 commandments dealing with man's duty to God -- are entirely missing from Matthew 19.

We can not use that fact to imagine to ourselves that God was ok with worshiping false gods and taking his name in vain... and I think we all know it and agree to that detail.

 

[bekkilyn]

Claiming to be a Christian but not living like one is a misuse of God's name. There are a lot of ways to draw tangential topics into this.

But we are looking for verbatim quotes of at least part of the text as in the case "do not commit adultery" quoted several times or "Honor your father and mother" quoted several times but never quoted in full in the NT.

The Sabbath commandment is quoted in just that same way - yet like the 5th commandment also 'not quoted in full'

by contrast "do not take God's name in vain" is not quoted at all in the NT.



I don't claim that the lack of a verbatim quote means Jesus did not consider it important. Rather I claim that the detail is meaningless ... entirely meaningless. Jesus never said "consider all of scripture deleted except for the parts I quote and then cause to be written in the NT". All that sort of "made up stuff" is meaningless.

So I take the command to not take God's name in vain - point to the irrefutable detail that it is in fact "never quoted" in the NT -- and then appeal to the fact that this detail "does not matter" in terms of our obligation because God never said "Delete whatever I said before --- unless I repeat it again".

And I would point out that a great many scholars on the other side of the Sabbath-vs-Sunday debate from where I stand - agree with me that ALL TEN of the Ten Commandments are included in the moral law of God applicable to all mankind -- and what gets "repeated" here or there does not change that fact for them or for me.

In Christ,

Bob

Perhaps the primary reason that so many of the old covenant commandments are not quoted verbatim in the new testament is because the new covenant is about grace, not law, as it is not about what *we* do, but about what the *Holy Spirit* does through us.

When Jesus addressed the commandments in his sermon on the mount, as well as a number of other things, he was pointing out that it wasn't about observing the letter of the law verbatim, it was about the spirit of the law and about what is inside us. It's about what comes out of our hearts and mouths. He does not need to quote everything verbatim when it's the message that is what is important, and he was focused on the message, not the legalism of the Pharisees.

We can strictly observe all the Sabbaths we want to observe, or perform any other commandment to perfection, and it will do absolutely *nothing* because it's not about what *we* do to earn favor...it's all about what *he* does through us when we surrender ourselves to him.

We tend to think we need commandments and laws to follow because we are afraid to fully trust Jesus and the transforming power of the Holy Spirit.

 

[bekkilyn]

There is a wonderful example where Christ does not mention "Love God with all your heart" or "Do not take God's name in vain" or "do not covet" or "do not worship false God's". The first 4 commandments dealing with man's duty to God -- are entirely missing from Matthew 19.

We can not use that fact to imagine to ourselves that God was ok with worshiping false gods and taking his name in vain... and I think we all know it and agree to that detail.

Unlike observing the Sabbath, worshiping false gods and taking God's name in vain were at least addressed *somewhere* in the New Testament...numerous times, in fact, and even by Jesus himself.

Observing the Sabbath is the *only* one of the ten commandments noticeably missing from the New Testament, likely because it was the sign of the covenant made between God and the Israelites at Horeb and not with anyone else, and the purpose of that covenant was fulfilled on the cross. The *spirit* of the Sabbath continues in Jesus as it is through *him* that we are given rest.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Unlike observing the Sabbath, worshiping false gods and taking God's name in vain were at least addressed *somewhere* in the New Testament...numerous times, in fact, and even by Jesus himself. Observing the Sabbath is the *only* one of the ten commandments noticeably missing from the New Testament, likely because it was the sign of the covenant made between God and the Israelites at Horeb and not with anyone else, and the purpose of that covenant was fulfilled on the cross. The *spirit* of the Sabbath continues in Jesus as it is through *him* that we are given rest.

You seemed to have missed a lot of scripture from the NT provided below. Hope it helps.....

What did Jesus and the Apostles teach about the Sabbath in the New Testament?
1. It is lawful to do good on the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56)
2. Jesus made the Sabbath for all mankind (Hebrews 1:2; John 1:1-3; 14; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16-17; Mark 2:27)
3. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28)
4. If you do not believe and follow God you cannot enter His Sabbath rest (Hebrews 4)
5. It is one of God’s 10 commandments we break it we are guilty or breaking all (James 2:8-12)
6. Breaking it is sin (1 John 3:4)
7. God’s true followers keep it Holy as God commanded (Rev 14:12; Rev 22:14; Eze 20:20)
8. Jesus is our example and he kept the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matt 16:24; 1 Cor 11:1; Eph 5:1-21; Pet 2:20-22)
9. The Apostle kept the Sabbath (Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Rev 1:10)

God’s Law in the NC is written on our hearts it is through love and it is love the fulfils God’s Law in us as we walk not after the flesh but after the spirit and is why Jesus says f you love me keep my commandments. (John 14:15; John 15:10). If we knowingly break one of God’s commandments we commit sin (1 John 3:4). This includes the 7th Day Sabbath which Jesus made for us and commands us to keep as a holy day.

We haven't even started talking about God's Law (10 commandments) in the NT which includes the 4th commandment (7th day Sabbath). Here is just a few from Jesus and the Apostles................

Jesus taught the 10 commandments…..
1. Jesus kept God’s Law (10 commandments) and said the Law and the prophets would not pass away (Matt 5:17-18)
2. Jesus taught others to follow the 10 commandments (Mark 10:17-21)
3. Jesus taught that Love is the fulfilling (doing) of God’s Law (10 commandments Matt 22:36-40)
4. If we break God’s Law by following man-made traditions we are not following God (Matt 15:3-9)
5. Jesus says if we commit sin we are a servant of sin and he has come to free us from sin (John 8:32-36)
6. Jesus taught if you love God you will keep God’s Law and abide in His Love (John 14:15; 15:10
7. If anyone is breaking any of God’s commandments and teaching others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven <least = lost> (Matt 5:19)
8. No one can obey God’s Law producing the fruit of obedience of ourselves and unless we abide in Jesus we can do nothing (John 15:4-10)

Paul affirms the Ten Commandments……
1. Paul teaches God's people keep the Sabbath Hebrews 4.
2. Paul tells gentiles that "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of GOD" 1 Cor 7:19
3. Paul tells gentiles "it is not the HEARERS of the Law that are just before God but the DOERS of the Law will be justified... on the day when according to my GOSPEL God will judge all mankind" Rom 2:13-16
4. Paul asks that gentiles consider the doctrine of LAW "Do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the Law of God" Rom 3:31
5. Paul tells ALL Christians that it is only the lost who will "not subject themselves to the Law of God neither indeed CAN they" Rom 8:6-8
6 Paul reaches all Christians under the NEW Covenant that God's LAW as known in Jer 31:31-33 is "written on the heart and mind" Heb 8:7-11
7. Paul tells all Christians that the OT text is to be used for Doctrine 2Tim 3:16
AND He never claims that "if I did not write it -- it is not scripture for us today" -- as one or two have imagined for us.
8. Paul tells all Christians that the 5th commandment is the "FIRST commandment with a promise" Eph 6:1-2 and is binding on all Christians.
9. God's Law (10 commandments) are holy, just and good (Rom 7:12)
10. God's Law gives us a knowledge of what sin is (Rom 3:20; 7:7)
11. The penalty of breaking God's Law without Jesus is death (Rom 6:23)
12. If we break God's Law we dishonor God (Rom 2:23)
13. If we sin we are "under the Law" and guilty before God (Rom 3:19)
14. We are saved by faith but our faith establishes the Law in us (Rom 3:31)
15. If we are saved by grace we should not break God's Law (Rom 6:1-7)
16. We should not break God's Law if we are under grace (Rom 6:15)
17. We are to serve the Law of God through the mind because that is where sin starts (Rom 6:17; 7:25; 8:4; 12:2)
18. It is God's Law that brings us to Jesus (Gal 3:24)
19. God's salvation frees us from sin so we can be obedient to God's Law and live a life of holiness (Rom 6:22)
20. We will be judged by God's Law and only those that are obedient will be justified because of their faith (Rom 2:4-13)
21. God's Law can only be obeyed through love and a changed heart which comes by faith in God's Word (Rom 2:21-29; 13:9-10; Heb 8:9-10)
22. If we break God's Law and are in unrepentant sin we will be lost and will received God's judgements (Heb 10:26-27)

John affirms the 10 commandments……
1. John says it is only by keeping God’s 10 commandments that we know that we know God (1 John 2:3)
2. If someone says that they know God and do not keep God’s 10 commandments they are lying and not telling the truth (1 John 2:4)
3. We should purify ourselves as Jesus is pure (1 John 3:3)
4. Sin is the breaking of God’s 10 commandments (1 John 3:4)
5. Whoever is abiding in Christ does not commit sin (1 John 3:6; John 15:4-10)
6. If you are in unrepentant sin you have not seen Jesus or know him (1 John 3:6)
7. John warns us that only those that are obedience to God’s Law are his true followers (1 John 3:7)
8. If someone is committing unrepentant sin they are following the devil and not God (1 John 3:7)
9. If you are born of God and abiding in him you will not commit sin (1 John 3:9; 1 John 3:6; John 15:4-10
10. It is the keeping of God’s commandments that is the difference between those that are following God and those that are not following God (1 John 3:10; 1 John 5:3)
11. It is only by Love through faith that we can keep God’s commandments (1 John 5:3-4)
12. God’s true believers in the end days will keep all of God’s commandments through faith in Jesus (Rev 14:12; 22:14)

James also affirms the 10 commandments…….
1. James says God’s Law (10 commandments) are a Royal Law (James 2:8)
2. If we break one of God’s commandments we a guilty before God as sinners breaking all of God’s Law and gave some examples of breaking God’s Law (James 2:9-11)
3. James says God’s Law is a law of liberty and freedom (James 2:12)
4. The 10 commandments (God’s Law) are the standard in the judgment (James 2:12)
5. If our faith does not have the fruit of obedience to God’s Law it is dead and not true faith (James 2:16-26)

Peter affirms the 10 commandments……..

1. Sanctification is to obedience to God’s Law (1 Pet 1:2)
2. We can only be changed from sin to obedience to God’s Law by the power of God and it will be revealed in the last days (1 Pet 1:5)
3. We should give up our sins to be holy because Jesus is holy (1 Pet 1:13-16)
4. Jesus is your example who did no sin (1 Pet 2:21-22)
5. Cease from sin and do not live in the flesh (1 Pet 4:1-3)
6. Judgement will begin at the house of God and sinners (those breaking God’s 10 commandments) will not be saved.
7. God has given us his precious promises and as we believe them God will grant us his divine power to live a life of Godliness (obedience to God’s Law; 2 Pet 1:2-4)
8. The Un-Godly (disobedient to God’s Law) will be like Sodom and Gomorrah (2 Pet 2:6)
9. If any turn away from God’s Law and are in unrepentant sin breaking any of God’10 commandments they will be lost (2 Pet 2:20-22)
10 God is not willing that any should perish but that everyone should come to repentance and turn away from sin to follow God’s 10 commandments because those that do not will receive the judgements of God (2 Pet 3:5-14)

So yep plenty of scripture. I am surprised you did not see them.............

God's Law (10 commandments) in the New Testament (this includes he 4th commandment)

1 You shall have no other gods before Me.
It is written: You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve. Luke 4:8, Matthew 4:10, Rev. 14:7

2 You must not make for yourself a carved image, a likeness of anything in heaven, on earth, or under the sea.
God is Spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth. John 4:24, Acts 15:20, 1 Cor. 6:9, Ephesians 5:5, 1 Peter 4:3, 1 John 5:21, Rev. 2:14

3 You shall not take the Name of the Lord your God in vain.
1 Tim. 6:1, James 2:7

4 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
The Sabbath [seventh day] was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, so the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. Mark 2:27-28, Hebrews 4; Matthew 12:8; Matthew 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56(Mark 2:28; Matthew 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matthew 16:24; 1 Corinthians 11:1; Ephesians 5:1-21; 1 Peter 2:20-22; Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Revelations 1:10 Is binding on all mankind today COL 2:14-17 THE REAL TRUTH THREAD (Linked)

5 Honor your father and mother.
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Ephesians 6:1, Col 3:20

6 You shall not murder.
I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. Matthew 5:44-45, Matt. 5:21-26, Romans 13:9, 1 Tim. 1:9, 1 John 3:15

7 You shall not commit adultery.
I say to you whoever even looks at another in lust has already committed adultery in their heart. Matthew 5:28, 1 Cor. 5:11, 1 Cor. 6:18, Galatians 5:19, Hebrews 13:4

8 You shall not steal.
Neither thieves, the greedy, or drunkards and robbers will inherit the Kingdom. 1 Cor. 6:10, Romans 2:21, Mark 7:21, Ephesians 4:28

9 You shall not bear false witness.
For by your words, you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned. Matthew 15:19, Ephesians 4:25, Col. 3:9

10 You shall not covet your neighbours possessions.
Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one’s life does not consist of the things he possesses. Luke 12:15, Romans 7:7, Ephesians 5:3, 1 Tim. 6:10, Hebrews 13:5]

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

Hope this is a help...........

 

[bekkilyn]

You seemed to have missed a lot of scripture from the NT provided below. Hope it helps.....

You've copied and pasted these same verses over and over and yet there is still no commandment in any of them that NT believers are to observe the Sabbath. It wasn't there the first time and it still isn't there now.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You've copied and pasted these same verses over and over and yet there is still no commandment in any of them that NT believers are to observe the Sabbath. It wasn't there the first time and it still isn't there now.

Serious? Your looking for the word "Commandment"in the verse before you will believe so my scripture that uses the word "Sabbath" that you just said was not mentioned in the NT not to mention all the scriptures that refer directly to the 10 commandments of which the Sabbath commandment is the 4th? I think anyone reading the above can come to an intelligent decision so we will leave it there for all to see.

 

[bekkilyn]

Serious? Your looking for the word "Commandment"in the verse before you will believe so my scripture that uses the word "Sabbath" that you just said was not mentioned in the NT not to mention all the scriptures that refer directly to the 10 commandments? I think anyone reading the above can come to an intelligent decision so we will leave it there for all to see.

No, it does not have to have the word "commandment" in it, but it would need to include some sort of request or requirement to observe the Sabbath, and yet it does not. Nowhere in the NT is there a request or a requirement for believers to observe the Sabbath.