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Rumy admits failure!

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by foolsparade, May 7, 2004.

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  1. foolsparade

    foolsparade Well-Known Member

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    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/07/politics.abuse.main/index.html

    Once again I repeat that Rumsfeld admits that he is a failure!

    ""If there's a failure, it's me. It's my failure for not understanding and knowing that there were hundreds or however many there are of these things that could eventually end up in the public and do the damage they've done," Rumsfeld said, talking about photographs of the abuse."

    Is he more worried about his and Bush's public image? Rumsfeld wears his morality on his shirt.
     
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  2. jameseb

    jameseb Smite me, O Mighty Smiter!

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    Make it now six threads that basically deals with the very same issue. :(

    Of course he's going to accept responsibility for it... I'm sure if he didn't admit responsibility people here would be bashing him for it too.... :rolleyes:
     
  3. Blindfaith

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    /me whispers, "it's an evil conspiracy"

    Frankly, I like what Joe Liberman had to say. Would someone be interested in posting his comments?
     
  4. FaithinHIM1968

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    Again, please - Yes, this is a terrible thing that has happened but the President and others did NOT force these soliders to do what had been done. For Rumsfield and others to apologize or take responsibilty for someone else's actions is just asinine
     
  5. foolsparade

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    Bumsfeld seemed to suggest that if the pictures hadn't been made public then he wouldn't be apologizing. Rumsfeld like Bush is a liar and a hypocrite. These people claim to be Christians!?!?! Please...
     
  6. praying

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    what did he say?
     
  7. jameseb

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    I agree with mhatten, what did he say? :)
     
  8. praying

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    see this is a case of a new slant, thus new thread. roll with it James come on.
     
  9. Bulldog

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    Good thing he admits it.
     
  10. Cranberry

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    From:
    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_050704/content/eibjip3.guest.html
     
  11. foolsparade

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    Now there appears to be photos and video tape of rape and murder. Rape and murder!! Since America is supposedly a Christian nation, if I were a Christian I would be furious. Yet no one seems to care on this forum at least.
     
  12. jameseb

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    :rolleyes:
     
  13. Echoes Peak

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    Umm, if I were a HUMAN BEING, I would be furious about those charges.


    I watched Rumsfield speak before the Senate. Honestly, I would not want to be in his shoes, trying to explain the actions of certain members of the military. For some reason, I was even surprised he was willing to mention that not only were their more pictures, but they were far worse than the ones the public has already seen. <sigh>. Pictures depicting the rape of young boys? I'm beyond disgusted.
     
  14. foolsparade

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    I agree with you 100 percent. Now go away! Just trying to stimulate the thread.
    :wave:

    Rumy has no choice at this point. He needs to bare all, to save himself and the presidency. Which is my complaint with him. Yet I admit that he wasn't in the prison raping children, it was just Americans.
     
  15. Blindfaith

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    Here's my thought on it.

    I wonder how many other nations would have their Secretary of Defense apologize. How many would actually feel enough remorse to check their ego's at the door and do it.

    It's not a Republican thing - I'd feel the same way if Kerry were President, and it was one of his men in front of a congressional hearing. And here's another thought; there's so much pointing of fingers and the rhetorical chant of, "everyone hates the U.S.". Seeing the Secretary of Defense grovel and apologize is going to make a difference? Absolutely not. The world has basically hated the U.S. since 1776 and only likes us when we can provide a service (such as military...WWI & II amongst others).

    There's a "boys club" that is state funded here in Washington - lots of molestation and allegations made but the primary politician involved in this club was never forced to resign. In fact, she's going to run for Governor this year (Democrat).

    Frankly, how much of this is moral and how much is political? If this weren't an election year, would it have gotten this far?

    Just some sincere questions.
     
  16. Echoes Peak

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    I do not know if there would've been calls for Rumsfield to be impeached. By I suspect, it would have gone this far, regardless. Those pictures are heinous, and regardless of the administration, no single politician would want to even remotely look like they were responsible for that.
     
  17. Blindfaith

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    Excuse me? Pathetic? I'll come back in awhile to respond to your post when I don't feel like responding to the vitriolic nastiness in kind.

     
  18. Existential1

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    With all due respect Jameseb, this issue cannot remain within some prophylatic of propriety. This is a huge human degradation matter, which implicates the whole of American society, and its hallowed values. This is a huge issue: which might cost countless lives, in its unfolding; I do not think we can deny it thread space.
    Though I do admire your busy fire engine work in this.
     
  19. Existential1

    Existential1 Well-Known Member

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    Back off, and apologise datan: I don't want this thread locked.
     
  20. jameseb

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    Um, how was that "slandering the world?" I'm not sure if I understand how this pertains to the topic... perhaps a refreshing of your point?
     
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