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Yes, foreign non-slaves that sell themselves as slaves during economic collapse.
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Leviticus Chapter 25, verse 44:
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

In other words, foreign slaves are taken, and kept in servitude for life, and their children too, and can be treated "ruthlessly".
 
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I think I demonstrated above they do not have the characteristics of property. The KJV translates property as possession in this passage which is actually a better translation. Which is unusual for the KJV, usually it is not the best translation. The term possession can be understood as a privilege. It is a privilege for them to become part of the masters family during this time of economic collapse, ie they are rescued from probably starvation and death. Just as many old hymns and the Bible refer to our conversion to Christ as getting heaven as our possession.
Hear that, @Clizby WampusCat ? It's a great honour to be taken as a slave! Those fortunate people, who were captured and enslaves in foreign countries during unspecified times of economic collapse that Ed1wolf just made up. How lucky they were to be taken, forced to work, beaten, and to have their descendants doomed to the same lifestyle.

What I always find especially interesting is how Christians, trying to prove that the Bible is not a pro-slavery document, always end up (sooner rather than later) using the same arguments as slavers in the 19th century.
Witness Pastor Warren, speaking of slavery in Georgia, USA, in 1861:
"An unparalleled progress in civilization and Christianity has resulted to them, from this domestic relation. They constitute an element in the social and religious relations of life, not as equals to the master, but as good subjects of a patriarchal government, under their moral and spiritual interests are supplied through the gospel – they are fed, clothed and protected – nursed affectionately when sick, and bountifully provided and tenderly cared for when old. Under this treatment, they cherish an affection for the master akin to the love of children to their parents, and thus through affection is the yoke made easy and the burden light."

How lucky the slaves were! Whether Pastor Warren's in the nineteenth century, or Ed1wolf's in Biblical times - how fortunate they were that superior peoples should take them into their households and keep them as slaves!

Ed, perhaps we should do that kind of thing ourselves nowadays. There are certainly plenty of people who are poor, hungry and afflicted in the world. Rather than give to charity or try to help their countries economies, perhaps we should enslave them, keep them as property for the rest of their lives, keep their children as property in perpetuity, and beat them as much as we like?
 
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I think I demonstrated above they do not have the characteristics of property. The KJV translates property as possession in this passage which is actually a better translation. Which is unusual for the KJV, usually it is not the best translation. The term possession can be understood as a privilege. It is a privilege for them to become part of the masters family during this time of economic collapse, ie they are rescued from probably starvation and death. Just as many old hymns and the Bible refer to our conversion to Christ as getting heaven as our possession.
At this point you are just making stuff up. As InterestedAthesis pointed out already this is how the US slavemasters argued for slavery in the US south.

Have you ever noticed that your personal morality is better than the morality described in the bible? You don't have to defend biblical slavery. You can reject it like many other christens and still be a Christian.
 
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Wrong.

Leviticus Chapter 25, verse 44:
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

In other words, foreign slaves are taken, and kept in servitude for life, and their children too, and can be treated "ruthlessly".
Foreigners and strangers cannot be treated ruthlessly either, read Leviticus 19:33-34. They are considered "fellow Israelites".
 
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Foreigners and strangers cannot be treated ruthlessly either, read Leviticus 19:33-34. They are considered "fellow Israelites".
Unless they were captured or bought as slaves, in which case you can do with them as you like, because they are your property. As we have already seen. It's nice that the Israelites had rules to treat visiting foreigners well, but don't confuse travellers and merchants with human livestock.
 
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