Roman Catholic..anything wrong with it?

[seeking.IAM]

Let's say that I decided leave the Catholic Church and her non-biblical ways.

Should I be Lutheran, Anglican, Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Anabaptist, Seventh Day Adventist, Pentecostal, a "non-Denominational Evangelical", a Jehovah's Witness, or a Mormon, and why?

Well, you should be Anglican, of course, because we wrote the King James Bible. Surely it would keep you on the right track to be reading the Bible in the language spoken by Peter and Paul!

 

[tadoflamb]

Read Exodus 20.

Great. You equate your neighbor's wife with your neighbors cow. Well done.

 

[ChristIsSovereign]

Great. You equate your neighbor's wife with your neighbors cow. Well done.

Read Exodus 20. That's just a generalization. The whole Ten Commandments is much larger than the left example. It wraps up all the examples of coveting into one exhaustive 10th commandment.

 

[ChristIsSovereign]

Exodus 20:4

Exodus 20:17

 

[PeaceB]

Well, you should be Anglican, of course, because we wrote the King James Bible. Surely it would keep you on the right track to be reading the Bible in the language spoken by Peter and Paul!

I suppose I can get down with the 1611, since it has cross-references to the Deuterocanonicals.

 

[tadoflamb]

Catholics are doing what the Pharisees did- turning what is supposed to be about love and righteousness into cold religion. Whenever I see colored stained glass with pictures of saints, mary, Jesus, etc. on it, it is a warning sign to me. The catholic church is very, very satanic at it's roots. The catholic church invented Halloween, which is the high-holiday of satanism

To me it's the sola scripturists who resemble the Pharisees with presumed biblical knowledge and their puffed up pride. You can't tell me the sola scripturists on this thread are speaking of love and righteousness when really they are participating in hate and outright lies.

 

[tadoflamb]

Read Exodus 20. That's just a generalization. The whole Ten Commandments is much larger than the left example. It wraps up all the examples of coveting into one exhaustive 10th commandment.

Yeah, it lumps your neighbor's wife in with your. neighbor's cow. We've already established that.

Your numbering of the 10 commandments is part of your tradition. Not even all sola scripturists use the same numbering as you do.

 

[Albion]

Well that is all in the eye of the beholder. I cannot think of many things, other than the doctrine concerning the canon of Scripture, which we would say is not at least implicit in Scripture.

You might make this claim if you torture some verses in order to make them say something that they do not appear to be saying.

Sola Scriptura (however you might want to define it), Sola Fide, and other protestant doctrines have absolutely no basis in the Bible, and are merely the tradition of men, from our perspective.

But this one is just silly. The verses--and tradition--give a lot of support to the Solas. Those people who reject them are required to find other verses that seem to lean the other way and then argue that they are the ones that count. In no case, however, will a claim that there is no Biblical support for Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide stand without doing that.

 

[SteveIndy]

The RC's are the largest denomination..but they do not follow the Bible in many instances, is that wrong?

Yes, the Catholic Church is corrupt, but so is the Protestant Church who was birthed out of the Catholic Church and they brought over a lot of the false beliefs. The Anabaptist followed closer than any of the other Reformation churches and paid dearly for their close walk with Christ.

A person would have to be blind to not see that the Catholic Church is totally messed up; Protestantism, not as obvious but becoming clearer.

 

[SteveIndy]

John MacArthur should not point fingers while he denies the efficacy of the blood of Christ. He also believes that a person who takes the mark of the beast can go to heaven. Anything he has to say has to be heavily discounted.

 

[ChristIsSovereign]

Yes, the Catholic Church is corrupt, but so is the Protestant Church who was birthed out of the Catholic Church and they brought over a lot of the false beliefs. The Anabaptist followed closer than any of the other Reformation churches and paid dearly for their close walk with Christ.

A person would have to be blind to not see that the Catholic Church is totally messed up; Protestantism, not as obvious but becoming clearer.

I was considering on becoming a Mennonite for that reason.

 

[ChristIsSovereign]

John MacArthur should not point fingers while he denies the efficacy of the blood of Christ. He also believes that a person who takes the mark of the beast can go to heaven. Anything he has to say has to be heavily discounted.

Each pastor is bound to have different views regarding such things. I don't agree with him there either but to denounce his whole ministry based on a single inaccurate utterance? That's also finger-pointing, to tell you the truth.

 

[PeaceB]

You might make this claim if you torture some verses in order to make them say something that they do not appear to be saying.


But this one is just silly. The verses--and tradition--give a lot of support to the Solas. Those people who reject them are required to find other verses that seem to lean the other way and then argue that they are the ones that count. In no case, however, will a claim that there is no Biblical support for Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide stand without doing that.

No, there is absolutely nothing in Scripture that even comes close to supporting Sola Scriptura and other things that you believe, and they are flatly refuted by Scripture. Everyone knows that the only thing you have is 2 Timothy 3:16-17, and that is not even close. YOU torture the verse to try to make it say something that it does not say. Your belief is a tradition of men, that man being Martin Luther, in particular.

Now, I realize that you disagree with that, and that is perfectly fine. It is a matter of perspective, as I stated previously. If you agreed with it you would be Catholic, just like if I disagreed with it I would be Lutheran, Anglican, Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Anabaptist, Seventh Day Adventist, Pentecostal, a "non-Denominational Evangelical", a Jehovah's Witness, or one of the many other non-Catholic denominations that hold to this false teaching of men.

You should not expect us to agree with your characterizations any more so than we should expect you to agree with ours.

 

[Albion]

Yes, the Catholic Church is corrupt, but so is the Protestant Church who was birthed out of the Catholic Church and they brought over a lot of the false beliefs. The Anabaptist followed closer than any of the other Reformation churches and paid dearly for their close walk with Christ.

A person would have to be blind to not see that the Catholic Church is totally messed up; Protestantism, not as obvious but becoming clearer.

But because there are thousands of Protestant churches, there is going to be a range from faithful to apostate. The concerned Christian will be able to make a choice. Not so with the Roman Catholic Church.

 

[PeaceB]

Yes, the Catholic Church is corrupt, but so is the Protestant Church who was birthed out of the Catholic Church and they brought over a lot of the false beliefs. The Anabaptist followed closer than any of the other Reformation churches and paid dearly for their close walk with Christ.

A person would have to be blind to not see that the Catholic Church is totally messed up; Protestantism, not as obvious but becoming clearer.

Well there you have it. Anabaptism - the one true church.

 

[SteveIndy]

I was considering on becoming a Mennonite for that reason.

The mass apostasy of institutional religion has driven many away who sincerely seek a closer walk with the Lord, you might call it the new radical reformation. The Anabaptists were the model in the first Reformation, but for the most part, they are keeping their head down these days. There are a new breed of Christian today who want back what has been lost and meet much like the early Anabaptist in small communities of wholehearted believers.

 

[ChristIsSovereign]

Well there you have it. Anabaptism - the one true church.

If sarcasm was a mountain, your sarcasm would reach the Sun.

 

[PeaceB]

But because there are thousands of Protestant churches, there is going to be a range from faithful to apostate. The concerned Christian will be able to make a choice. Not so with the Roman Catholic Church.

In other words, the "concerned Christian" will be able to find a church to validate his own particular opinions, whatever they may be.

 

[ChristIsSovereign]

The mass apostasy of institutional religion has driven many away who sincerely seek a closer walk with the Lord, you might call it the new radical reformation. The Anabaptists were the model in the first Reformation, but for the most part, they are keeping their head down these days. There are a new breed of Christian today who want back what has been lost and meet much like the early Anabaptist in small communities of wholehearted believers.

I believe that Anabaptists, Wesleyans, and some Baptists fit that definition. Also genuinely Christian nondenominational churches too.

 

[kepha31]

Catholics are doing what the Pharisees did- turning what is supposed to be about love and righteousness into cold religion. Whenever I see colored stained glass with pictures of saints, mary, Jesus, etc. on it, it is a warning sign to me. The catholic church is very, very satanic at it's roots. The catholic church invented Halloween, which is the high-holiday of satanism

Catholics did not invent Halloween, that's absurd.
"...This is the same process that leads Fundamentalists who are offended at the (inaccurately alleged) pagan derivation of Halloween to introduce alternative "Reformation Day" celebrations for their children. (This modern Protestant holiday is based on the fact that the Reformation began when Martin Luther nailed his 95 theses to the church door in Wittenberg, Germany, on October 31, 1517.) Another Fundamentalist substitution for Halloween has been "harvest festivals" that celebrate the season of autumn and the gathering of crops. These fundamentalist substitutions are no more "pagan" than the celebrations of days or seasons that may have been introduced by earlier Christians.
Is Catholicism Pagan? | Catholic Answers

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WilliamBo, which of these "satanic" institutions would you like to burn down first?