Roman Catholic..anything wrong with it?

Goatee · Jul 14, 2017

The CC is not perfect, but neither am I. The CC is run by sinners, as I myself am. The CC has made mistakes, just like me. The CC has battled many a mighty storm, just like humanity itself. The Holy Spirit guided the church through all its troubles, cutting through the high seas.

It is still afloat! Others have tried to sink it but have failed. This is why it is the true church of Christ. Unsinkable.

bbbbbbb · Jul 14, 2017

Goatee said:
The CC is not perfect, but neither am I. The CC is run by sinners, as I myself am. The CC has made mistakes, just like me. The CC has battled many a mighty storm, just like humanity itself. The Holy Spirit guided the church through all its troubles, cutting through the high seas.

It is still afloat! Others have tried to sink it but have failed. This is why it is the true church of Christ. Unsinkable.

Certainly, any of the Orthodox denominations can make the same claims.

Major1 · Jul 14, 2017

Albion said:
Not always. Some of the most controversial doctrines are based upon Tradition instead of Scripture and have no Biblical basis whatsoever. They are defended by the unprovable claim that such was what the Apostles taught--or the church since its beginning--ergo, they must be true.

Agreed.

Major1 · Jul 14, 2017

ByTheSpirit said:
Paul would say you are mistaken. Romans 14:5-6

The Sabbath is no more a requirement of God than sacrificing a bull is

Agreed!

Major1 · Jul 14, 2017

tadoflamb said:
"1.2 billion deceived Catholics".

That's really funny.

What then do you believe the actual number would be?

ByTheSpirit · Jul 14, 2017

Goatee said:
The CC is not perfect, but neither am I. The CC is run by sinners, as I myself am. The CC has made mistakes, just like me. The CC has battled many a mighty storm, just like humanity itself. The Holy Spirit guided the church through all its troubles, cutting through the high seas.

It is still afloat! Others have tried to sink it but have failed. This is why it is the true church of Christ. Unsinkable.

Islam has survived almost 1500 years so by your logic that must be of God too.

Zoroastrianism has been around for over 3500 years so that must be of God too.

For that matter Judaism has been around for 4,000 years so truly God that is an acceptable way as well.

Point being just because something has stood the test of time does not mean it is of God. That is a very human way of thinking.

Major1 · Jul 14, 2017

tadoflamb said:
Better dust off your catechism. That's not a Catholic doctrine.

Pope Pius XII, in Munificentissimus Deus (1950), defined that Mary, "after the completion of her earthly life" (note the silence regarding her death), "was assumed body and soul into the glory of heaven."

Major1 · Jul 14, 2017

bbbbbbb said:
Certainly, any of the Orthodox denominations can make the same claims.

And some do.

Major1 · Jul 14, 2017

prodromos said:
Another person with reading comprehension problems.

Sarcasm?????

Major1 · Jul 14, 2017

Jeepneytravel said:
What you are saying is your religious organization has the same moral standards as the world, and the worldy schools etc...that sure explains the misconduct and other deviations from the Christian walk.

Agreed.

2 Corinthians 6:17....................
"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you."

tadoflamb · Jul 14, 2017

Major1 said:
Pope Pius XII, in Munificentissimus Deus (1950), defined that Mary, "after the completion of her earthly life" (note the silence regarding her death), "was assumed body and soul into the glory of heaven."

The post I quoted said that our Blessed Mother ascended into Heaven. Memo to sola scripturists: reading comprehension matters.

Major1 · Jul 14, 2017

prodromos said:
Nah. Its junk history and bunk theology. I can understand why you find it attractive though.

John 8:32..............
"and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

tadoflamb · Jul 14, 2017

Major1 said:
What then do you believe the actual number would be?

Zero.

Major1 · Jul 14, 2017

tadoflamb said:
The post I quoted said that our Blessed Mother ascended into Heaven. Memo to sola scripturists: reading comprehension matters.

Isn't that what the post confirmed?

Pope Pius XII, in Munificentissimus Deus (1950), defined that Mary, "after the completion of her earthly life" (note the silence regarding her death), "was assumed body and soul into the glory of heaven."

You said.............
The post I quoted said that our Blessed Mother ascended into Heaven.

Can you explain the difference in those two comments?

Major1 · Jul 14, 2017

tadoflamb said:
Zero.

And what is the validation of such a number?

Albion · Jul 14, 2017

tadoflamb said:

The post I quoted said that our Blessed Mother ascended into Heaven. Memo to sola scripturists: reading comprehension matters.

Click to expand...

Sola Scriptura has nothing to do with it.

kepha31 · Jul 14, 2017

ByTheSpirit said:
Islam has survived almost 1500 years so by your logic that must be of God too.

Zoroastrianism has been around for over 3500 years so that must be of God too.

For that matter Judaism has been around for 4,000 years so truly God that is an acceptable way as well.

Point being just because something has stood the test of time does not mean it is of God. That is a very human way of thinking.

Goatee didn't say anything about the test of time. He talked about the Church surviving the storms that have been constantly thrown at her. A mere human institution would have collapsed a long time ago, and we would all be Arians.

tadoflamb · Jul 14, 2017

Major1 said:
Isn't that what the post confirmed?

Pope Pius XII, in Munificentissimus Deus (1950), defined that Mary, "after the completion of her earthly life" (note the silence regarding her death), "was assumed body and soul into the glory of heaven."

You said.............
The post I quoted said that our Blessed Mother ascended into Heaven.

Can you explain the difference in those two comments?

Christ ascended into Heaven by His own power. Mary was assumed into Heaven by the power of God.

If the sola scripturist doesn't know the difference, perhaps he should disqualify himself from the conversation. As it is written, 'if you can't be trusted with the small things, you can't be trusted with the larger things'.

Like I said, reading comprehension matters.

tadoflamb · Jul 14, 2017

Major1 said:
And what is the validation of such a number?

A 2000 year teaching magisterium of which the gates of hell have not prevailed.

If it's not from Heaven. Let it fall.

Major1 · Jul 14, 2017

tadoflamb said:
A 2000 year teaching magisterium of which the gates of hell have not prevailed.

If it's not from Heaven. Let it fall.

Can you post the Bible verses that validate your claim that the Catholic church has that magisterium.

Roman Catholic..anything wrong with it?

Jesus, please forgive me, a sinner.

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