Roman Catholic..anything wrong with it?

[Phil 1:21]

No, that was neither of the readings. but why would they take that verse out anyway? Apparently this is a bit more common in the RCC than I thought. Honestly, if one of our pastors did that it would be addressed immediately at the end of service.

 

[seeking.IAM]

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2) None of the readers identified which chapters and verses were being read, only from which books. I suppose since no one had a Bible no one was going to be following along anyway.

3) In two of the three readings, verses were omitted. The result was a change in both context and meaning. I only caught this because I was familiar with the readings, didn’t think they sounded right, and checked them on my phone...

Sort of like in my church. Chapter and verse are not announced by the reader who says, for example, "A reading from Paul's letter to the Corinthians." We do print chapter and verse in the bulletin, however.

As for verses omitted, could this be an issue of what translation is used by the reader compared to that with which the listener is familiar? Seems logical.

 

[Erose]

The various surveys and reports that Catholics on CF self-righteously use to criticize the supposed divisions among Protestants also count hundreds of different Catholic ones and, in fact, hundreds of different Roman Catholic churches.

So you may say that what one person thinks is the right classification system is not what the next one uses, but you cannot make use of the same one when it suits your puposes, dismissing it as bunk when it does not. If you want thousands of Protestant churches, then you get lots of Catholic ones, too.

I'm sorry, you just saying it is so, isn't enough. Even in the ones that I've have found, they get no were near 500 even when you count the Churches that are in full communion with other groups. I counted 123 particular churches on the list in Wikipedia. For the Catholic Church that is 24 particular churches (including the Latin Church) that are in full communion with Rome. The Orthodox Churches in communion with Constantinople are 29. There are 20 Oriental Churches, which I'm not sure how strong their communion is, if there is full communion among them. There are three Eastern Churches. So that leaves 47 independent denominations. But no matter how you do the math there isn't no where near 500 independent denominations found in "Catholic" or a better word in my opinion the "Apostolic" Churches, and quite honestly there really is only about 50.

 

[Phil 1:21]

As for verses omitted, could this be an issue of what translation is used by the reader compared to that with which the listener is familiar? Seems logical.

I wish, but checking the reading against the NAB the verses were just completely omitted. Honestly, I'd never seen anything like that before. But admittedly, I never checked back when I was Catholic.

 

[Albion]

I'm sorry, you just saying it is so, isn't enough. Even in the ones that I've have found, they get no were near 500 even when you count the Churches that are in full communion with other groups.

One had it at that level, as I recall. Others counted just under 400. Others that separate out the EO had it in the scores of churches. But there are different ways of counting, as noted already. The fact that there are a lot of Catholic and even Roman Catholic churches is certainly shown in all, and that refutes the claim that there is only one Catholic one standing in contrast to the thousands that are Protestant.

 

[Erose]

The fact that there are a lot of Catholic and even Roman Catholic churches is certainly shown in all, and that refutes the claim that there is only one Catholic one standing in contrast to the thousands that are Protestant.

Again, you saying it doesn't make it so. You made a claim that surely you can justify. If not, then recant and lets move on.

 

[Albion]

Again, you saying it doesn't make it so.

If I were the only one saying it, you might have a point. The fact that it's the standard system of classifying churches (as has been noted a number of times by now and also shown by the figures both of us have cited), is what settles it.

 

[Erose]

If I were the only one saying it, you might have a point. The fact that it's the standard system of classifying churches (as has been noted a number of times by now and also shown by the figures both of us have cited), is what settles it.

The problem is those figures do not support what you are claiming.

 

[Jeepneytravel]

According to the news reports of sexual misconduct by many members of this religion, there is lots wrong with it...and when one reviews the attached link...well you judge for yourself.The Antichrist Is Hidden In Plain Sight

 

[prodromos]

According to the news reports of sexual misconduct by many members of this religion, there is lots wrong with it.

Sexual misconduct within churches is no more or less common than in secular society, and occurs, unfortunately, in every church.

 

[Jeepneytravel]

Sexual misconduct within churches is no more or less common than in secular society, and occurs, unfortunately, in every church.

So what you are saying this sexual misconduct happens the same in the church as it does in secular society...the question arises, why would anyone want to belong to such a hideous filthy sin laden religion?

 

[prodromos]

So what you are saying this sexual misconduct happens the same in the church as it does in secular society

That includes your church.

the question arises, why would anyone want to belong to such a hideous filthy sin laden religion?

Hospital is full of sick people, and sometimes even the doctors and nurses who are supposed to be helping people heal, sometimes they get sick too. It doesn't alter the fact that when you are seriously ill, your best chance for recovery is in hospital.

 

[kepha31]

So what you are saying this sexual misconduct happens the same in the church as it does in secular society...the question arises, why would anyone want to belong to such a hideous filthy sin laden religion?

http://www.catholicleague.org/shining-the-light-on-spotlight/

There were 25 new allegations made by minors during the 2015-2016 year against current clergy members. But only two were substantiated. That means of the 52,238 priests and deacons, .004 percent had a substantiated charge made against them.

As I wrote on June 6th, “we know of no other institution in the United States, secular or religious, which has a better record than the Catholic Church today when it comes to the sexual abuse of minors by adult employees.
“http://www.catholicleague.org/cnn-op-ed-on-sexual-abuse-is-flawed/

The Christian mission field is a “magnet” for sexual abusers, Boz Tchividjian, a Liberty University law professor who investigates abuse said Thursday (Sept. 26) to a room of journalists.

While comparing evangelicals to Catholics on abuse response, ”I think we are worse,” he said at the Religion Newswriters Association conference, saying too many evangelicals had “sacrificed the souls” of young victims.

“Protestants can be very arrogant when pointing to Catholics,” said Tchividjian, a grandson of evangelist Billy Graham and executive director of Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment (GRACE), which has investigated sex abuse allegations.
Protestants ‘Worse’ Than Catholics On Abuse

Your question should be, "why would anyone want to live in such a hideous filthy sin laden culture?"
OR
"Why would anyone send their kids to public schools where the physical sexual abuse of students is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests?"
Forgotten Study: Abuse in School 100 Times Worse than by Priests

 

[Jeepneytravel]

What you are saying is your religious organization has the same moral standards as the world, and the worldy schools etc...that sure explains the misconduct and other deviations from the Christian walk.

 

[prodromos]

What you are saying is your religious organization has the same moral standards as the world, and the worldy schools etc...that sure explains the misconduct and other deviations from the Christian walk.

Another person with reading comprehension problems.

 

[kepha31]

What you are saying is your religious organization has the same moral standards as the world, and the worldy schools etc...that sure explains the misconduct and other deviations from the Christian walk.

No, I am not saying that, you are. You don't know what you are talking about. I agree with podromo. You can't read or you just ignore what doesn't fit your preconceptions.

 

[kepha31]

AccorThe Antichrist Is Hidden In Plain Sight

This is a hate site, loaded with lies and false histories, attractive to the uneducated. It's a type of religious pornography.

 

[Jeepneytravel]

That is a wonderful site..a very good and factual review of the subject matter, comlete with Biblical quotes..."the antichrist hidden in plain sight" What do you find offensive about it, or are you just generally negative to the truth?

 

[prodromos]

That is a wonderful site..a very good and factual review of the subject matter, comlete with Biblical quotes..."the antichrist hidden in plain sight" What do you find offensive about it, or are you just generally negative to the truth?

Nah. Its junk history and bunk theology. I can understand why you find it attractive though.

 

[kepha31]

That is a wonderful site..a very good and factual review of the subject matter, comlete with Biblical quotes..."the antichrist hidden in plain sight"