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You know that and I know that, but the Baptists use a different dispensational framework, to wit: They believe that when the Bible was completed, the canon was finalized, that the need for the BoHS was fulfilled.

My point is simply that when we use arbitrary periods of time to explain God's behaviour--for lack of a better word--we run the risk of making the same mistake that the Baptists make by doing the same thing.


The Baptist sure have gotten a lot of people saved and have been blessed because of it. :)
 
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The Baptist sure have gotten a lot of people saved and have been blessed because of it. :)
I'm not being critical of the Baptists---technically, I am still a Baptist. (My letter still sits in a small Baptist church in Scott County Mississippi.)

My point is that if the Baptists are clearly wrong about their dispensations (at least insomuch as the Baptism is concerned), is it not possible that we are wrong about our dispensationalism?
 
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In the same way that gravity has no choice but to push a man to the ground, your argument implies that God has no choice but to pour his wrath on mankind in this particular manner.

by golly, i think your spirit recognizes the truth and is articulating it, but your intellect does not yet perceive what your spirit does!

ok, let's try this line of reasoning on, and you tell me if it makes sense to you...but even so, God's reasoning is better than mine, so let's look at that.

Read the first 2 chapters of the book of Amos, specifically the judgements agains Damascus, Gaza, Tyre, Edom, Ammon, Moab, Judah, and Israel.
In each of them the first words are
"This is what the Lord says: 'The people of (name of city) have sinned again and again, and I will not forget it. I will not let them go unpunnished any longer."
And then go to Amos 4:6-13 to see why the Lord has brought the punnishment against these people. 'But still you wouldn't return to me," says the Lord.

So here we see a picture of the Lord who desires that his people return to Him, and yet He recognizes their sins which have separated them from the presence of God. The sins must be punnished because God is righteous, but the punnishment is designed to bring them to a place of true understanding of what they have done
so that they might repent and ask forgiveness and be restored.

In otherwords this is God's version of tough love.

Hoseah 8:7 says "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind..."
 
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