Rick Warren represents us?

[Izdaari Eristikon]

I'm not an outgoing social person anyways - I tend to be shy IRL and guarded until I do meet people and bring them in my circle so to speak.

That describes me too. The way I often put it is "I'm friendly, but not outgoing." I won't go up and talk to random people, at not least 'til I reach a certain comfort level with them, but if they come talk to me, I'm very friendly.

 

[Nadiine]

That describes me too. The way I often put it is "I'm friendly, but not outgoing." I won't go up and talk to random people, at not least 'til I reach a certain comfort level with them, but if they come talk to me, I'm very friendly.

Yes that's exactly how I am. that's why when people attack me here as if I go out onto the street corners with a pulpit & Bible & start beating my fists on the podium & screaming how they're going to hell with that "turn or burn" sermon, it's such an utter JOKE to me. rofl

I don't go out confronting ANYONE irl. I'm very quiet - but if people confront ME first - or if I meet someone & feel comfortable with them, I"m extremely open & yappy! lol
At that point I'm not guarded at all, in fact I'm too open most of the time once i feel comfortable. Just hand me the nearest lampshade. lol

 

[Zecryphon]

*slap

I used to live right down the street from the Crystal Cathedral before I got married and even tho I hadn't come back to the Lord at that time & did want want to go to a church becuz I was feeling spiritually lonely, I went to a local Baptist church one Sunday morning instead.

I think I was the youngest person in the entire church that morning lol

(any olde jokes after that opening and you're going to PAY dearly)

What? Me make an olde joke? How little you must think of me. I'm innocent I tell ya!!

Near the end, he said that his father did become a Christian and that, and I quote, "I saved my father that weekend."
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yikes. This is exactly why Calvanists believe as they do.
It's all too easy for us to give ourselves the glory for our accomplishments and eloquent words.
We're so prone to pride by nature

Yeppers.

 

[MrJim]

Ye Olde Thread Resurrection

Rick's in the news again since Obama selected him to deliver the "Invocation" prayer at the inauguration...dude's like a bad penny...

Then there's this news article..

Gay leaders furious with Obama

 

[Cris413]

Ye Olde Thread Resurrection

Rick's in the news again since Obama selected him to deliver the "Invocation" prayer at the inauguration...dude's like a bad penny...

Then there's this news article..

Gay leaders furious with Obama

Bishop Gene Robinson must be quite disappointed he wasn't asked...especially after the glowing review and support he gave Obama...

...I wonder if Rev Write expected to be asked...

Joel must also be a little disappointed...after all he is the most popular pastor on the planet these days...

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Ye Olde Thread Resurrection

Rick's in the news again since Obama selected him to deliver the "Invocation" prayer at the inauguration...dude's like a bad penny...

Then there's this news article..

Gay leaders furious with Obama

I will admit, I had to chuckle when I read all the responses from the gay community. The only way they'd have been happy is if Obama had chosen a pastor who is openly pro-homosexual, and then Obama would've completely alienated the rest of the Christian population.

 

[higgs2]

Bishop Gene Robinson must be quite disappointed he wasn't asked...especially after the glowing review and support he gave Obama...

...I wonder if Rev Write expected to be asked...

Joel must also be a little disappointed...after all he is the most popular pastor on the planet these days...

Bishop Robinson is not like that. If he supported Obama, it was because he truly felt that way, not in order to be appointed to say a public prayer. He can pray any time he wants, and reportedly does.

 

[Cris413]

Bishop Robinson is not like that. If he supported Obama, it was because he truly felt that way, not in order to be appointed to say a public prayer. He can pray any time he wants, and reportedly does.

It was meant to be a bit tongue in cheek higgs...and I have no doubt Bishop Robinson is truly sincere in his support of Obama...

...that is pretty evident in the OP of this thread:

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7310692

and I'm sure he does pray quite often.

The gay community would have been head over heals if Obama had asked him...and as Obama reportedly sought his counsel on a few occasions...I think it's possible he may have been a bit disappointed he wasn't asked to give the inaugural prayer...but I too highly doubt his praise of Obama was fishing to be asked.

Hope that clears things up a bit....

 

[Atlantians]

I will admit, I had to chuckle when I read all the responses from the gay community. The only way they'd have been happy is if Obama had chosen a pastor who is openly pro-homosexual, and then Obama would've completely alienated the rest of the Christian population.

Truer words have not been spoken on this issue.

 

[Fantine]

We live in a diverse, pluralistic society. Religious leaders who have been successful authors and preachers appealing to a wide ecumenical audience have advised and represented man presidents--Norman Vincent Peale, Billy Graham, etc.

Obama tried to pick someone that a wide majority of Americans knew and respected, even if they were not evangelical. I think Warren was about as good a choice as any.

 

[MrJim]

We live in a diverse, pluralistic society. Religious leaders who have been successful authors and preachers appealing to a wide ecumenical audience have advised and represented man presidents--Norman Vincent Peale, Billy Graham, etc.

Obama tried to pick someone that a wide majority of Americans knew and respected, even if they were not evangelical. I think Warren was about as good a choice as any.

And like Peale and Graham he's a compromising pliable sort of fellow that likes to have an audience and wide customer base...

 

[Izdaari Eristikon]

We live in a diverse, pluralistic society. Religious leaders who have been successful authors and preachers appealing to a wide ecumenical audience have advised and represented man presidents--Norman Vincent Peale, Billy Graham, etc.

Obama tried to pick someone that a wide majority of Americans knew and respected, even if they were not evangelical. I think Warren was about as good a choice as any.

All things considered, probably so. I really can't think of anybody better. Joel Osteen comes close, but might have been even more controversial. Conservatives are even more suspicious of him than of Warren. And I suspect his Prosperity Gospel message rubs Obama the wrong way. OTOH, Obama already knew and (I suppose) liked Warren from their debate encounter.

 

[BobRyan]

I think the idea is to get the Evangelical "blessing" on the Obama government so that they would stop calling thing thing an obama-nation etc.

The question is - will Pastor Warren really place the evangelical seal of approval on the Obama administration? If so - where does that leave actual evangelicals?

in Christ,

Bob

 

[Secundulus]

Maybe Christian leaders shouldn't be publicly participating in the inauguration at all.

We should pray for Obama - yes. But being a party to installing one who holds such antithetical values to Christianity is wrong.

It is like an early Christian Bishop blessing the coronation of the Emperor Julian "The Apostate".

 

[ReformedChapin]

Maybe Christian leaders shouldn't be publicly participating in the inauguration at all.

We should pray for Obama - yes. But being a party to installing one who holds such antithetical values to Christianity is wrong.

It is like an early Christian Bishop blessing the coronation of the Emperor Julian "The Apostate".

I agree.

I don't see any reason to have genuine Christians be at secular events and practically bless leaders who clearly stand against Christian principles. I wish Obama did choose Olsteen or some Liberal Theologian, not that Waren is much better but he is still part of SBC.

 

[Nadiine]

I'm happy about it - it riles up his own base.

He hasn't even hit office & they're furious at him.

I think he's doing it for appeasement & apperances only.
When he hits office we'll see the far left policies start
flying.

(prays I'm wrong)

 

[GreenMunchkin]

The thing is, truly amazing pastors like David Wilkerson and Andrew Wommack wouldn't have anything to do with publicly endorsing a politician - democrat or republican. This serves Obama well in terms of appeasing the "Christian right" and it serves Warren well as he's a publicity-seeker.

I actually feel sorry for Obama, though, in that his own side has been so angry over this. He's in an impossible position. He really does need lots and lots of prayer now, I think.

 

[AnneSally]

People like Charles Stanley

I love him.

 

[AnneSally]

Which Anglican bishop? One of them, N.T. Wright, the Bishop of Durham, is a top theologian, pretty conservative and a particular favorite of mine. OTOH, Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, seems to go off on weird tangents sometimes.

You can say that again, the Archbishop of Canterbury gets on my wick.



But I watched a documentary the other day on the state of Anglicanism in modern Britain and I was impressed with some things that the Bishop of London said. I think he hit the nail on the head about the reality of the situation, especially that the Church has to be the Church in responding and not some marketing campaign.

I thought he was pretty cool, I hope he isn't gay.

 

[AnneSally]

Rowan Williams doesn't do Christianity any favours, either. Apparently he's a member of some bizarre druidic society. Pfft.

Ah, well that explains why I don't like him.....