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Richard Dawkins vs Conall and Donall

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God is not hypothetical.

Didn't Conall & Donall dispose of the line of argument in your post? One can't prove the non-existence of something simply because one claims it is mean and nasty.

Yes, Conall and Donall tackled that strawman very effectively.
 
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It's pretty cool that after 123 replies this thread had 1234 views ...

I notice weird stuff like that.

Yep, we've evolved a keen sense of seeking patterns. It's kept our species alive for hundreds of thousands of years. It's also why we have religions.
 
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Conall & Donall are so cute, I wish they did more clips about militant-atheism :)
 
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It's not just ridiculing ideas, it's ridiculing people, because people are intimately connected with ideas as deeply held as religious ones are. When Dawkins talks about religion, it's no different than when a Klansmen gets up and starts a racist diatribe about how Black people supposedly "are". He doesn't care how black people see themselves, only how he sees them through his own narrow, bigoted lense.
 
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It's not just ridiculing ideas, it's ridiculing people, because people are intimately connected with ideas as deeply held as religious ones are. When Dawkins talks about religion, it's no different than when a Klansmen gets up and starts a racist diatribe about how Black people supposedly "are". He doesn't care how black people see themselves, only how he sees them through his own narrow, bigoted lense.

Oh come now.

Dawkins insults your religion and possibly your religious thoughts. But that's not who you are as a person.
 
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Then we would be able to have found some evidence to that. You'd think after witnessing the most important event in human history that people would be in a furious uproar. There would thousands of papers and reports on it. There would be diaries and journals and statues and celebrations.

Did you study Latin for four years? You know anything about the time period? There was no mass communication and a great many people couldn't even read. Very few journals, very, very few academic works, and very few reports. Only a little bit of mail, most of which did not survive to the present day. So no, there wouldn't have to be any of those things.

The evidence we do have is very good. The New Testament canon is one of the best documented collection of books in the world, not only in terms of primary texts but in terms of secondary source quotations. People like Dawkins just dismiss it because it's tied to religion, something he personally doesn't like/doesn't understand.
 
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Oh come now.

Dawkins insults your religion and possibly your religious thoughts. But that's not who you are as a person.

From my religious understanding, it's tied in very much with my person. That's the whole point.

Take this quote from Colossians 3: "Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth. 3 For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.".

This theme is repeated throughout the New Testament, especially the pastoral epistles: I am no longer the person I was, that person has died. My life is intimately tied with Christ's. His narrative is part of who I am.
 
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