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Because Jesus spoke that parable to them, as He did most or all the parables in the NT/NCWHY would any N.T. account have any relevance to their understandings? I have to meet them on their own ground when I witness GODS LOVE to them. And most of them already have that much figured out for themselves...no different than WE DO for ourselves.
Because Jesus spoke that parable to them, as He did most or all the pabables in the NT/NC
I won't debate this with you on this thread squint.So says YOU...I believe ALL OF GODS WORDS are for ALL PEOPLE just like Jesus said.
I try not to DIVIDE Jesus from His Own Words of the Old Testament as there is no sane use doing such a thing.
Greetings. How do others view that story Jesus told to the Jews in Luke 16 concerning the rich-man and lazarus. A parable or true story? This is one of the largest studies I have of the NT/NC.
I myself humbly view it as a "Covenantle" parable, but would like to here views from other fellow Christians of it. Thanks.......
Matthew 3:9 "And no ye should be thinking to say in yourselves 'a Father we are having, the Abraham'. For I am saying unto ye, that is able the God out of the Stones, these, to raise-up offsprings/children to the Abraham. [Luke 3:8/16:24]
Luke 16:24 And he sounding said: "Father Abraham! be thou merciful to-me! and send Lazarus!, that he should be dipping the tip of the finger of him of water, and should be cooling down the tongue of me,--that I am being pained in the Flame,this."
i haven't narrowed it down to truth or just a parable yet, but i do believe it's based on truth.
I believe there's a deeper purposein Jesus' use of parables that we are aware of....not sure what that is yet
Yes it was a true story an honestly it wasn't even parable-ish. Parables usually stated with The kingdom of Heaven is like, and the such like. This was a straight forward true story Christ was giving.It is unclear. The tone of the story is parable-ish. However, it would be the only one like it that uses actual names. Interpreters throughout history who believe it to be a true story point this out.
I view that "rich-man" as a type of an apostate High Priest, as that is who Jesus addressed in this rather interesting passage:I agree! I found the relation between this passage in Matt 22 and Zeph 1 fairly interesting
Matthew 22:11 And entering yet the King to gaze of the ones the reclining, he saw there a Man/anqrwpon <444> not in-slipped/endedumenon <1746> cothing/enduma <1742> of wedding-feast [Zeph 1:8/Luke 16:24]
Zeph 1:7 Hush! in presence of my Lord YHWH, that near Day of YHWH. That YHWH prepares a sacrifice, He sanctifies ones being called of Him.
8 And becomes in Day of sacrifice of YHWH and I visit/06485 paqad on the chiefs and on sons of the King and on all of ones being clothed/03847 labash clothing/04403 malbuwsh foreign. [Matt 22:11/Luke 16:24]
The covenantal understanding of this parable put forth by J. P. Eby is probably one of the POOREST dissections of that scripture set that I have EVER read. It's so full of holes I cannot count them all.
And it is USED to heap JUDGMENT upon the people of Israel, and in that way it is ANTI-Semitic at it's CORE. I am quite surprise you would practice that quite frankly. But once these types of ANTI-RACE views dig into the heart they are hard to DITCH.
I'd ask you what in the world yer thinkin' but whatever...
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I am used to it, as even some members of my own family have implied the same thing ever since I started reading the Bible [they believe in some future "rapture" and contribute to Zionists organization, including something called "Temple Mount Faithfull]. The Bible tends to do that I suppose..... But let's get back to the topic.....God blessI think you are out of line calling LittleLamb anti-Semitic
I think you are out of line calling LittleLamb anti-Semitic
I think you are out of line calling LittleLamb anti-Semitic
That would depend on which "sect" of the JudeansI would never call LLOJ as Gods Child an anti-semite.
That working does however often ENTER the flesh of certain people and it is a SEPARTE working than the person it enters. They often have no idea they are a 'carrier.' But when they start condemning JEWS on any basis...that working is revealed to be IN THEM by their own MOUTH.
That would depend on which "sect" of the Judeans
Squint. Please stick to the topic of this thread and quit derailing it.....thanksJewish people are Jewish people no matter their 'sect.'
All of them are taught by Gods Words of the O.T. to be GODS CHILDREN...
Any 'spirit' that seeks to condemn Gods children...well...there is a day in waiting for same called WRATH...
Great observation Thekla and thanks so much for pointing that out!Just to be a bit off the present topic, but kinda on-topic too,
I am fascinated that the rich man and Lazaros both "see" Abraham. But for the rich man, the experience is like burning, and for Lazaros it is comfort.
(And again, this recalls for me the reactions to the proto-martyr Stephen in Acts.)
I would never call LLOJ as Gods Child an anti-semite.
That working does however often ENTER the flesh of certain people and it is a SEPARTE working than the person it enters. They often have no idea they are a 'carrier.' But when they start condemning JEWS on any basis...that working is revealed to be IN THEM by their own MOUTH.
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