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Rich-man and Lazarus True story or Parable

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We will all see it happen from the Walls of the City of God.. and the world will hear the conversation and see the people involved in the conversation... and ti will happen exactly as described.
What conversation?
 
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There are those who insist that this is not a parable but it is a true story because it contains a name, Lazarus. Doesn't this put you in the unfortunate circumstance of also needing to say "Jack and the Beanstalk" is a true story because it also contains a name? Where do you buy your magic beans?
Correction: It contains 3 Biblical names, not just Lazarus. Moses and Abraham were quite literal. It is literal and VERY detailed and consistent with the NT doctrine of eternal punishment in the eternal fire.
 
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Correction: It contains 3 Biblical names, not just Lazarus. Moses and Abraham were quite literal. It is literal and VERY detailed and consistent with the NT doctrine of eternal punishment in the eternal fire.
Good catch! Indeed, Abraham and Moses are mentioned in it.

Who is the "they" Jesus is talking about concerning the 5 brothers in verse 28,29? :idea: :preach:

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary
Jesus vs the Pharisees

Luke 16:27 "Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house,
28 'for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.'
29 "Abraham said to him, 'They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.'
30 "And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.'
31 "But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.' "

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"for I am having 5 brothers...." Luke 16:28
 
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Good catch! Indeed, Abraham and Moses are mentioned in it.

Who is the "they" Jesus is talking about concerning the 5 brothers in verse 28,29? :idea: :preach:

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary
Jesus vs the Pharisees

Luke 16:27 "Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house,
28 'for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.'
29 "Abraham said to him, 'They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.'
30 "And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.'
31 "But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.' "

http://www.christianforums.com/t7458936-21/#post54510139
"for I am having 5 brothers...." Luke 16:28
Judah and his brothers didn't have Moses and the prophets because they came later...
 
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Judah and his brothers didn't have Moses and the prophets because they came later...
Why would that matter concerning this parable?

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absolutely... story must be valid. Can't have a farmer planting spring seeds in fall or chickens under ground hoping for turnips ..
I would never make a good farmer or vineyard keeper :D

NKJV) Matthew 21:33 " Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner who planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a winepress in it and built a tower. And he leased it to vinedressers and went into a far country.

John Mellencamp - Rain On The Scarecrow - YouTube
 
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Yeshua never started out in the telling of this story with the words.. here is another parable.
Perhaps that is what is so confusing to the unbeliving Jews of today.
I like how this favorite commentator of mine explains it :) :angel:

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At the beginning of Jesus' discourse in chapter fifteen of Luke the statement is made that "He spoke this parable unto them, saying," (Lk. 15:3). The Greek is very definite in making the word for parable clearly a singular noun. It is "the parable this.."
This statement is followed by five separate stories, the first of which is the story of the lost sheep, and the last is the story of the rich man and Lazarus. You see, the teaching in chapter sixteen is but the continuation of the discourse in chapter fifteen, without interruption.
Now, which of the five stories He gave them in this sermon was called a parable? The only one of the five which is prefaced by the claim, "And He spoke this parable unto them," was the story about the lost sheep. Was the lost sheep the only one that could be called a parable? And yet, any preacher or believer that I know will answer that the story of the lost coin, as well as the prodigal son, were also parables. Then why was the singular used - "this parable"?

It should be clear to any thinking mind that all these stories were ONE PARABLE, like the facets of a diamond, as they turn each scintillates with new brilliance. Each was illustrating a view point of one great truth, and together they compose a whole. And this parabolic discourse of Jesus is continued into chapter sixteen of Luke, including the story of the rich man and Lazarus. The truth is that all five stories are each a fractional part of the complete parable, and when we read, "He spoke this parable unto them," this embraces the entire collection of symbol-pictures which in their completeness constituted the parable which He spoke. It is a careless assumption and an unfounded assertion to argue that the story of the rich man and Lazarus is not a parable!
 
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Parable.. singular... Parables...plural
The Bible is a single Book with multiple Books with stories in them. So not sure what yer point is.

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Your interpretation may not be valid.. the first one is a parable.. the second could be something else and the last one could easily be a true event yet to happen.
Thank you vis.
Any other interpretations/views from others here?

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