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rib bones: who has more? adam or eve?

Who has more bones or ribs: Adam or Eve? Men or women?

  • Adam is missing a rib

  • men and women have the same number of ribs

  • men have more ribs than women do

  • women have more ribs than men do


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mattwebb22

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The Bible does say that God took a rib from Adam and created Eve. But, Did you know that the rib is the only bone in the body that can regenerate. Besides if I lost a bone, my children would not be without that bone.

If you lose your leg in a car crash, your children aren't born with one leg are they. The loss of a bone, does not affect your genetic make up! :clap:
 
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someone correct me if i'm wrong but the hebrew word for rib is tsela (sp?) which means side. moreover that is the only context (i think) in which it is translated as the english word "rib". interestingly enough the sumerian word for rib also means "life" or "make live". just something to think about...
 
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mbams said:
I have come across info that states that the word translated as "rib" really doesn't mean that, and that it really means that Eve was made out of a part of Adam. The only reason why we think it means rib is because of Jewish mythology. Any thoughts?
Literalism takes more explaining then symbolism. When I need to read the bible with a manual next to me explaining how every passage means something different then what the words say why don't I just read the words and search for what God means with them?
 
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My option wasn't up there.

The answer is Chili's. Chili's has more ribs. Although the Home Town Buffet makes a lot too.

chilis_img_chickribs_lg.jpg


But seriously, I've heard the Hebrew word translated "rib" as "curve". So the question might be, who has more curves, a man or a woman?
 
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Whether the word is "rib" or "side" is immaterial. God took part of Adam's body, used it in creating Eve, and healed Adam leaving him as perfectly formed as before - hence he pronounced His creation "good" at the end of the week.
You can get everything you need from a simple, literal reading of God's word - you don't have to do further study in manuals. Translators have done that as team checking each other's work, and with prayer, so we ordinary folk don't have to. It's interesting to do a little extra study sometimes though!
Blessings, Susana
 
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The Lord is my banner said:
Whether the word is "rib" or "side" is immaterial. God took part of Adam's body, used it in creating Eve, and healed Adam leaving him as perfectly formed as before - hence he pronounced His creation "good" at the end of the week.
You can get everything you need from a simple, literal reading of God's word - you don't have to do further study in manuals. Translators have done that as team checking each other's work, and with prayer, so we ordinary folk don't have to. It's interesting to do a little extra study sometimes though!
Blessings, Susana
Or I can just get everything I need from reading the word, and seeking what God is trying to tell us.
 
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The Lord is my banner said:
Whether the word is "rib" or "side" is immaterial.
It is not immaterial this thread. I grew up hearing that men had less ribs than women, and that this was a proof to the Bible's validity. I think it is important to try to understand what the Bible really says, not what we have taken from it and made into tradition and mythology.

The Lord is my banner said:
You can get everything you need from a simple, literal reading of God's word - you don't have to do further study in manuals.
I disagree. If we take a literal meaning from an English Bible, we may miss some of the intentions of a passage in the original language. An exact translation is very difficult, and I would sometimes often impossible to do. I believe that the Holy Spirit helps us understand God's Word, and enlightens us to His truths despite the language difference. But I still think that men have translated the Bible in ways that perhaps break up the original intent of the passages, and I want to know what it really said! Not just what some man (or men) tell me it says. And there is such depth in learning about what the original words and passages mean!

The Lord is my banner said:
Translators have done that as team checking each other's work, and with prayer, so we ordinary folk don't have to.

My husband and I have different versions of the Bible, and sometimes when we are reading together, our Bibles say very different things, and his Bible sometimes misses entire verses that are present in my Bible. These two sets of translators (for his Bible and mine) have come to different conclusions about the validity and meaning of certain parts of the Bible.

I think it is important to know the linguistic, cultural and historical background for ourselves, so that we know what context to put the passages we are studying in. I love the Word, and want to know as much as I can about it! I even want to know the details, such as how Eve came from Adam. :)
 
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The Lord is my banner said:
Whether the word is "rib" or "side" is immaterial. God took part of Adam's body, used it in creating Eve, and healed Adam leaving him as perfectly formed as before - hence he pronounced His creation "good" at the end of the week.
Genesis 2 is not day six of Genesis 1. For one thing, birds in Genesis 2 are created after Adam but in Genesis 1 they are created on day 5. Check it out.

In Genesis 1:26-27 God creates men and women (both plural in Hebrew) together and doesn't use any body parts.

You can get everything you need from a simple, literal reading of God's word - you don't have to do further study in manuals. Translators have done that as team checking each other's work, and with prayer, so we ordinary folk don't have to.
A translation is immediately an interpretation. So right there you don't have a "literal".

However, as I noted above, if you do take a simple, literal reading of Genesis 1-3, you realize that you have 2 separate and independent creation stories. And they contradict. A huge neon sign that you shouldn't be reading them literally! :)
 
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mbams said:
I think it is important to try to understand what the Bible really says, not what we have taken from it and made into tradition and mythology. ... But I still think that men have translated the Bible in ways that perhaps break up the original intent of the passages, and I want to know what it really said! Not just what some man (or men) tell me it says. And there is such depth in learning about what the original words and passages mean! ... I think it is important to know the linguistic, cultural and historical background for ourselves, so that we know what context to put the passages we are studying in.
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Genesis 2 is not day six of Genesis 1. For one thing, birds in Genesis 2 are created after Adam but in Genesis 1 they are created on day 5. Check it out.
Lucaspa, I just checked that, and the birds were already there and waiting to be named by Adam in chapter 2.
In Genesis 1:26-27 God creates men and women (both plural in Hebrew) together and doesn't use any body parts.
Chapter 1 is the general overview of creation, and in a general sense God has created every one of us, so plural men and women is fine - just that they weren't all immediate. Chapter 2 homes in on details more specific to mankind and our relationship with God, each other,the earth and creatures, focusing particularly on the first human pair.
All seems simple and literal to me. Perhaps I am simple!:)
Blessings, Susana
 
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mbams said:
It is not immaterial this thread. I grew up hearing that men had less ribs than women, and that this was a proof to the Bible's validity. I think it is important to try to understand what the Bible really says, not what we have taken from it and made into tradition and mythology.


I disagree. If we take a literal meaning from an English Bible, we may miss some of the intentions of a passage in the original language. An exact translation is very difficult, and I would sometimes often impossible to do. I believe that the Holy Spirit helps us understand God's Word, and enlightens us to His truths despite the language difference. But I still think that men have translated the Bible in ways that perhaps break up the original intent of the passages, and I want to know what it really said! Not just what some man (or men) tell me it says. And there is such depth in learning about what the original words and passages mean!



My husband and I have different versions of the Bible, and sometimes when we are reading together, our Bibles say very different things, and his Bible sometimes misses entire verses that are present in my Bible. These two sets of translators (for his Bible and mine) have come to different conclusions about the validity and meaning of certain parts of the Bible.

I think it is important to know the linguistic, cultural and historical background for ourselves, so that we know what context to put the passages we are studying in. I love the Word, and want to know as much as I can about it! I even want to know the details, such as how Eve came from Adam. :)
Mbams, I agree with everything you say in your reply to me up there! I didn't intend to say none of this matters, just that God's word and as you say, His Spirit, are sufficient for us to get waht we most need from scripture. Where something like rib/side is concerned, there doesn't seem to be any harm to the meaning either way. I absolutely agree we can get a lot more from further study, discussion and books to help.
Blessings, Susana
 
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