Reverse Predjudice

[Biarien]

First off, just to say where I'm coming from, I'm white, with some Native American ancestry, though not enough that anyone would notice.

So...I don't know that I've been discriminated against in a very typical way, in that I've been called a racial slur or anything, but I've certainly noticed that there are times I feel 'left out of the crowd' or whatever when I'm hanging out with people of another race. I'm not sure it's really discrimination, but rather just the fact that some people are more used to hanging out with their 'kind' of people, so it just comes from habit. It makes me a bit uncomfortable sometimes, like I'm being excluded because I'm white, but it's no big deal really.

Here's some lyrics that I thought were fairly pertinent:

A black man or a white man
or an Asian or a Mexican
or a African or a South African
or a Serbian or a Libyian
You're all one race, the human race
Just a different smile for a different face.
Rx Bandits - "In All Rwanda's Glory"

 

[Living4Him03]

Thanks for the responses everyone! Ya'll have really given me some insight!

 

[cutekid 4 Jesus]

Living4Him03,
I was NOT upset with you, but the title itself upsets me and I guess reading it triggered my "emphasized" response. As I said before, to me it's equal to/worse than being called a n*gg*er.




It's okay, THANKS for clarifying !!!!!

God bless,
Onwardclimb

well to be fair to living4him a lot of black americans describe themselves as african american and are proud of their undoubted african heritage.sweetie i dont know what history books you have been reading but all of the slaves were as black as black.now thats been diluted in various ways beginning with the systematic rape of black slaves...but this isnt a slavery debate anyway i guess. Im sorry you equate 'african' with something negative.

 

[cutekid 4 Jesus]

Yeah, I've experienced a bit of that racism before. I wouldn't even call it "reversed," because, as we all should know by now unless we're truly ignorant, everyone can be a racist no matter their race. Not just white folks like me *laugh*. ..
I don't know if I like having the label of "white" simply because I am so much more than that (we ALL are). My heritage (Lebanese, Italian, Canadian) just doesn't come out through my features that well (except for the pastey Canuck skin I was blessed with). I wish there were more words to describe who we are, what we value, and what's truly important instead of slapping labels on by default because our lexicon doesn't have better ones.

sure everyone can be racist..i think the reason why its been labelled as reversed prejudice is because FACT racism has traditionally been white against black and up til the civil rights movements blacks were more interested in aspiring to be white than hating them for their injustices but things have obviously changed as you see the dislike on all sides now. I guess racism breeds racism eh?

 

[Onwardclimb]

well to be fair to living4him a lot of black americans describe themselves as african american

...and a lot of blacks also describe themselves as n*gg*r, so what's your point?

and are proud of their undoubted african heritage.

I have NO problem with my "african heritage", BUT I, like other blacks, am ALSO made of other races and they all are NOT summed up in the word "african". I did NOT just just come over to America from Africa as the label implies.

sweetie i dont know what history books you have been reading but all of the slaves were as black as black.

That is without a doubt the most RIDICULOUS FOOLISH thing I've ever heard of. NO, NOT every slave was black if you've ever read the story of Exodus you'd know there were Hebrew/Jewish slaves, if you'd ever researched the entire history of slavery you'd know that there were also Mexican and Indian slaves as well as Roman and Greek.

now thats been diluted in various ways beginning with the systematic rape of black slaves...but this isnt a slavery debate anyway i guess. Im sorry you equate 'african' with something negative.

That is the most PREJUDICE thing I've ever read!!!!! NOT all of my ancestors were "raped" , some of their "unions" were "unions" of love, and they were NOT all with white masters. In addition to white and african ancestery I also have VERY HEAVY american indian, chinese, and mexican blood lines and most of those were introduced AFTER slavery times.

For the record I do NOT equate "african" as being something negative", but I do resent the title, as it does NOT describe me or the majority of my relatives, or people who decended from slaves.

Onwardclimb

 

[Onwardclimb]

up til the civil rights movements blacks were more interested in aspiring to be white....

Your sources for this HATEFUL, UNFOUNDED, PREJUDICED remark is what???????

Never mind I've had enough of both you and your prejudiced posts, thus you are being put on my ignore list, so I won't have to read anymore of your garbage!!!!!!!!

 

[fishstix]

I really don't understand why we can't all just be people. I mean, we don't go around defining people based on other physical characteristics, so why should we define ourselves by our skin color? We really are all just different shades of brown - the exact same pigment produces every shade of human skin that there is, from the lightest to the darkest and everything in between.

 

[Onwardclimb]

WELL SAID FISHSTIX!!!!! AMEN TO YOUR POST!!!!!!

 

[cutekid 4 Jesus]

I really don't understand why we can't all just be people. I mean, we don't go around defining people based on other physical characteristics, so why should we define ourselves by our skin color? We really are all just different shades of brown - the exact same pigment produces every shade of human skin that there is, from the lightest to the darkest and everything in between.

Yeh thats true but i guess its okay to accept what category or categories that you fall into just dont let it define you. They are different things.

Onward Climb-you are being riddicolous-I wasnt talking about slaves from ALL time i was talking about the slaves that African/Black Americans are descended from. Also i never said all slaves were raped I just said it happened and was pretty systematic-as in a commonly occuring problem.Even if i did say they were all raped why is that prejudice it would be more inaccurate or ignorant. Ive not accused the slaves of anything,they had nothing to be ashamed of and 'just for the record' i wasnt saying that anyway.

This argument is getting old,off topic and some people are gettin waaay too stressed out. Tip:sort your race issues out.

 

[Onwardclimb]

...kid...,

Just reiterating:

I've had enough of both you and your

prejudiced posts

, thus you are on my ignore list, and I am spared from reading anymore of your garbage!!!!!!!!

I'll pray for you, and try my best to forgive you, and maybe one day I'll be able to stomach the stuff you say . Till then, Have a great life and may God bless you.

Onwardclimb

 

[Onwardclimb]

Living4Him03,

I'm SORRY for the role I played in taking your thread off topic. PLEASE accept my apology and know that it won't happen (from me) again.

God bless,
Onwardclimb

 

[Living4Him03]

I think, on one hand, Onwardclimb has a point...she doesn't deny her African heritage and is certainly not ashamed of it, but resents being called "African American" when that is not a term that accurately or fully describes who she is.

I don't think ANY of the terms we use today fully or accurately describle most of us. Even skin colors are silly, IMO. I've always thought white was the color of a wedding dress, not of skin. But anyway, it's okay Onwardclimb, I think the topic going now is interesting and has given me some insight.

I wish we could just eliminate the use of certain terms to describe our races...but, then again, if we did that we may forget about the cultures too! Maybe not, though. I don't think that will happen for a long time or maybe never, because groups from one race are always going to not like another race or cultures in that race or whatever. I wish people like that could know the value of friendships with people from all sorts of cultures! It's so awesome...I have friends from all over the world (we have a big international student population here) and it's really cool.

God Bless ya'll!

 

[cutekid 4 Jesus]

Onward climb-man you are so dramatic 'one day il stomach your posts blah blah..' get in the real world you are goin to face a lot more negative comments than what I made and you cant just put people you disagree with on your 'ignore' list.
anyway as i said SOME people are raising their blood pressure over this it aint worth it WHATEVER your view is and yeh Im sorry Living for taking this thread waaay off topic. If there are any more over excited responses to my posts ill probably just not bother replying anyway im back at university i dont have time for this.

 

[JPPT1974]

Onwardclimb and Live4Him03, everybody and everything gets out of hand but I have heard much, much, more worse that what you two are calling a "shouting match" and didn't mean to jump out of line. Live4Him03, I know you are not a racist at all but there are many, many, out there that are and hopefully for the better, change their hearts and lives.

 

[fishstix]

I wish we could just eliminate the use of certain terms to describe our races...but, then again, if we did that we may forget about the cultures too! Maybe not, though.

I don't think that forgetting about skin color would mean forgetting about culture because they are not the same thing. Not everyone with the same shade of skin has the same culture. And not everyone within the same culture has the same shade of skin.

 

[Chadwickboy]

I really don't understand why we can't all just be people. I mean, we don't go around defining people based on other physical characteristics, so why should we define ourselves by our skin color?

Sorry I haven't been here in awhile lol. Anyways, I just want to point out that that isn't entirely true. It's appalling what some handicapped people - from those visibly handicapped(like being in a wheelchair) to those less noticeable(like being deaf) - have to put up with.

 

[JPPT1974]

Never put much thought into handicapped people because they too come to think of it are also put down and denied due to their handicap.

 

[nicodemus]

I would like to add that there's no such thing as "reverse prejudice." Prejudice is prejudice no matter what color the person it is coming out of or the color of the person it is directed against.

 

[LynneClomina]

i hope i say all this ok so that i dont get flamed....

where i live there is a lot of first nations (aboriginal/native) up here and it is quite polarized a lot of the time. i've had some first nations kids come into the store and obviously planning to shoplift and when we requested that they stick together in a group (and not spread out all over the store) or leave, they yelled things like "you whites just hate us" etc, and it was really hard to hear becuase for me, its so far from the truth. it's the "blame" game - (this is not a blanked statement) - it seems that we get blamed for their cultural "ills" and they get blamed for the crime rate, and its all wrong wrong wrong. neither is true.

but the thing is, nobody really steps into the gap. by statements like those from the kids in the store are made, some of us "whites" tend to back off and avoid, and even get fearful. and vice versa. the whole screwed up thing just self perpetuates and it really sucks.

its hard though, when many many experiences with racist comments towards me over the years to just be comfortable, y'know? but i must say, with working in the bible bookstore, i've met many many many a non-prejudist first nations person, and they are very often the nicest most laid back people. its been healing for me, that's for sure!

 

[Cordy]

I think what can happen in all sorts of areas (race, gender, disability etc.) is that people can sometimes go beyond their rights of simple respect to seeing everything from the view of own group.

For example, I have a close friend that has a disability. She is a great girl, but she doesn’t try in school. She goes out and does fun stuff all the time when I and others are studying. She is planning on going into a post-graduate program, and I told her to do so, she should try to improve marks. She simply replied that she doesn’t need to be she has her disability, and that they have to let her in because of it. And sadly enough, so far this mentality has carried her pretty far. If she doesn’t get something she wants, she blames it on the disability and threatens legal action. She sees everything from that perspective.

I think that in our extreme PCness, we somtimes actually accentuate the differences rather than look at people for who they are. I know too many who define who they are, how they are treated only by their group or minority statues. I think this is the seed to prejudice in itself.