Revelation in order?

yeshuaslavejeff · Jan 11, 2019

Bipolargirl said:
do you think the book of revelation is written in order?
The book of revelation is confusing to me.

Yes. It is Breathed by Yahweh, in order, meant to be read in order, as He Says and Reveals to all His children everywhere, in Jesus.

The only way to understand it is to read it in order,
praying, prayerfully acknowledging Yahweh as Creator, Judge, Righteous, Holy and Sovereign over you life. Asking HIM, not men, to grant you His Understanding, simply.

Listen to this forum, to men, anywhere, instead of Yahweh(God),
instead of trusting Jesus,
leads to the confusion, always (or worse - deception, instead of confusion).

yeshuaslavejeff · Jan 11, 2019

Bipolargirl said:
I suppose it is fear that I might be deceived or tricked into taking the mark.
Sometimes I worry we are already marked (but that’s anxiety).
Thank you for your reply.

Be terrified is written to believers, lest anyone become deceived by sin and doesn't make it. So along with SALVATION in JESUS including DAILY overflowing JOY, PEACE and RIGHTEOUSNESS that is always free with SALVATION, together with SALVATION,
there is Godly fear, with GOOD REASON (Yahweh Says, and the penalty for staying sinful, staying deceived, is death) .

Since most of the world, and the worldly church(es) DO receive the mark, there is great grief and sorrow , as written in Scripture, for the billions who cannot be saved, those who remain deceived ('Christians' and unbelievers both) , who receive to stop serving demons (written in the Apocalypse = Revelation).

Whoever abides in Jesus has Jesus' Shalom. Immeasurable, unshaken when all around is shaken, not affected by circumstances, people , or demons.

Dr. D Bunker · Jan 11, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff · Jan 11, 2019

Holding up the MIRROR (God's Word), right back to you - that's not true.

yeshuaslavejeff · Jan 11, 2019

Dr. D Bunker said:
There's not one reason to presume any Church would accept it.

Examples below are merely the top ones found in 0.037 seconds. There are thousands more possible to find.

16:55
Mark of Beast 666
Update-Pastors
accepting it, say its
OK
Daniel Wiebrands
YouTube - Dec 6, 2013

5:01
PASTOR SAYS
IT'S OK TO TAKE
THE MARK OF
THE BEAST
AND ...
CHAARAWTAZA BAN YASHARAHLA
YouTube - Aug 29, 2017

5:01
John MacArthur
OUTRAGE: Take
the Mark of Beast,
still be saved ...
Steve Galeener
YouTube - Oct 14, 2014

14:42
John Macarthur is
WRONG on Mark
of the Beast. DO
NOT TAKE IT...
Barry Scarbrough
YouTube - Nov 28, 2016
Web results
JOHN MACARTHUR: OK TO TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

https://watch.pairsite.com/macarthur-1-mark-of-beast.html
John MacArthur teaches that those who take the Mark of the Beast ... followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, ... then; yea, MacArthur's propaganda ministers defend him and his false teaching, and ...

SamanthaAnastasia · Jan 11, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Examples below are merely the top ones found in 0.037 seconds. There are thousands more possible to find.

16:55
Mark of Beast 666
Update-Pastors
accepting it, say its
OK
Daniel Wiebrands
YouTube - Dec 6, 2013

5:01
PASTOR SAYS
IT'S OK TO TAKE
THE MARK OF
THE BEAST
AND ...
CHAARAWTAZA BAN YASHARAHLA
YouTube - Aug 29, 2017

5:01
John MacArthur
OUTRAGE: Take
the Mark of Beast,
still be saved ...
Steve Galeener
YouTube - Oct 14, 2014

14:42
John Macarthur is
WRONG on Mark
of the Beast. DO
NOT TAKE IT...
Barry Scarbrough
YouTube - Nov 28, 2016
Web results
JOHN MACARTHUR: OK TO TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

JOHN MACARTHUR: OK TO TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST
John MacArthur teaches that those who take the Mark of the Beast ... followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, ... then; yea, MacArthur's propaganda ministers defend him and his false teaching, and ...

Well, I don’t care what pastors or priests say...if I am able to recognize the mark(if it appears in my life time) I’m not going to take it.

yeshuaslavejeff · Jan 11, 2019

Bipolargirl said:
Well, I don’t care what pastors or priests say...if I am able to recognize the mark(if it appears in my life time) I’m not going to take it.

HALLELUYAH ! There is NO REPENTANCE to anyone who receives the mark,
so
you are on good solid ground in JESUS CHRIST --- NEVER EVEN THINK ABOUT TAKING IT, nor allowing it for anyone , even on penalty of death .

SamanthaAnastasia · Jan 11, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff said:
HALLELUYAH ! There is NO REPENTANCE to anyone who receives the mark,
so
you are on good solid ground in JESUS CHRIST --- NEVER EVEN THINK ABOUT TAKING IT, nor allowing it for anyone , even on penalty of death .

What do you think about children? Will the children or mentally disabled be forced to take it against their will?

yeshuaslavejeff · Jan 11, 2019

Bipolargirl said:
What do you think about children? Will the children or mentally disabled be forced to take it against their will?

We cannot rightly discuss this on this forum. (way way too much against God's Word, since this forum is open to the whole wide world, religiously, politically, socially, etc ) .

However, TRUST and RELY on the FATHER IN HEAVEN ALWAYS. Trust that His Judgment IS PERFECT and totally unspotted, unblemished RIGHTEOUSNESS (which everyone eventually agrees with - with no argument at all - after resurrection; the Ekklesia agree already! )

Dr. D Bunker · Jan 11, 2019

SamanthaAnastasia · Jan 11, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff said:
We cannot rightly discuss this on this forum. (way way too much against God's Word, since this forum is open to the whole wide world, religiously, politically, socially, etc ) .

However, TRUST and RELY on the FATHER IN HEAVEN ALWAYS. Trust that His Judgment IS PERFECT and totally unspotted, unblemished RIGHTEOUSNESS (which everyone eventually agrees with - with no argument at all - after resurrection; the Ekklesia agree already! )

But don’t other things have to happen before the mark is enforced?

Dr. D Bunker · Jan 11, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff · Jan 11, 2019

Bipolargirl said:
But don’t other things have to happen before the mark is enforced?

No. There's been ENDLESS ARGUING ever since "many anti-Christs" infiltrated the Ekklesia's assemblies of believers in the first century.
Remember the Apostles and disciples of Jesus, TAUGHT by JESUS,

all thought Jesus would return in their lifetime. Yahweh and JESUS TAUGHT THEM.

Yahweh and JESUS NEVER said otherwise, never corrected them rather agreed, as they were taught by Yahweh and by JESUS.

In other words, there is nothing needed to happen before JESUS RETURNS - we EKKLESIA are ALL LOOKING FOR HIS QUICK RETURN,
just as all EKKLESIA have been eagerly watching for JESUS' RETURN for almost 2000 years.
SIMPLE !

Then men messed up, and came up with many doctrines, dogmas and false teachings , passing them off as if "did God really say" ? and so on....

In other words STICK WITH WHAT YOU READ IN SCRIPTURE , and UNlearn all of man's faulty devices - don't study man's way or many of man's ways -

rather RELY ON AND TRUST our FATHER in HEAVEN, and read HIS WORD .

Trust Him and DO as HE SAYS. Peace, Joy and Righteousness DAILY FULL is the result!

SamanthaAnastasia · Jan 11, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff said:
No. There's been ENDLESS ARGUING ever since "many anti-Christs" infiltrated the Ekklesia's assemblies of believers in the first century.
Remember the Apostles and disciples of Jesus, TAUGHT by JESUS,

all thought Jesus would return in their lifetime. Yahweh and JESUS TAUGHT THEM.

Yahweh and JESUS NEVER said otherwise, never corrected them rather agreed, as they were taught by Yahweh and by JESUS.

In other words, there is nothing needed to happen before JESUS RETURNS - we EKKLESIA are ALL LOOKING FOR HIS QUICK RETURN,
just as all EKKLESIA have been eagerly watching for JESUS' RETURN for almost 2000 years.
SIMPLE !

Then men messed up, and came up with many doctrines, dogmas and false teachings , passing them off as if "did God really say" ? and so on....

In other words STICK WITH WHAT YOU READ IN SCRIPTURE , and UNlearn all of man's faulty devices - don't study man's way or many of man's ways -

rather RELY ON AND TRUST our FATHER in HEAVEN, and read HIS WORD .

Trust Him and DO as HE SAYS. Peace, Joy and Righteousness DAILY FULL is the result!

So you’re saying that the mark will not happen? I’m sorry, I’m confused...

LittleLambofJesus · Jan 11, 2019

Bipolargirl said:
do you think the book of revelation is written in order?
The book of revelation is confusing to me.

It's pretty confusing for the Jews too, so don't feel too bad.....

I have a plethora of threads concerning Revelation and the OT.
Just click on the" little devil" avatar and look for my threads........

Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament

THE SYMBOLISM IN BOOK OF REVELATION

One man studied and found 348 allusions (not illusions, Light) in Revelation from the Old Testament. You see the similarity in wording and the context mirrored in Revelation and the particular Old Testament story, and immediately can recognize the reference source!
That's IF you know the bible well enough to even notice that.

95 of the 348 plain references used in Revelation as taken from the Old Testament are repeated in Revelation.
That makes about 250 Old Testament passages are cited. How many chapters are in Revelation? 22. That makes about TEN OLD TESTAMENT REFERENCES FOR EVERY CHAPTER!

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yeshuaslavejeff · Jan 11, 2019

Bipolargirl said:
So you’re saying that the mark will not happen? I’m sorry, I’m confused...

yeshuaslavejeff said:
No. There's been ENDLESS ARGUING ever since "many anti-Christs" infiltrated the Ekklesia's assemblies of believers in the first century.

The forum participants come from all faiths and from all over the world. Thus, confusion.

Just like the world for the past 2000 years; confusion.

Believe ONLY what the BIBLE SAYS.

Concerning the "mark", Believe ONLY what the BIBLE says. Simple and not confusing.

(Really Really SIMPLE, YES ! ) ......

Listen to what men say every day ? CONFUSING.

Believe the BIBLE? SIMPLE and not confusing.

IF what a messenger says , IS TRUE AND IN LINE WITH SCRIPTURE, no problem - SIMPLE !
IF what a messenger says , is false and not in line with SCRIPTURE, BIG PROBLEM - Do not accept it .

SamanthaAnastasia · Jan 11, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff said:
The forum participants come from all faiths and from all over the world. Thus, confusion.

Just like the world for the past 2000 years; confusion.

Believe ONLY what the BIBLE SAYS.

Concerning the "mark", Believe ONLY what the BIBLE says. Simple and not confusing.

(Really Really SIMPLE, YES ! ) ......

Listen to what men say every day ? CONFUSING.

Believe the BIBLE? SIMPLE and not confusing.

IF what a messenger says , IS TRUE AND IN LINE WITH SCRIPTURE, no problem - SIMPLE !
IF what a messenger says , is false and not in line with SCRIPTURE, BIG PROBLEM - Do not accept it .

So...what do you think the mark is?

yeshuaslavejeff · Jan 11, 2019

Bipolargirl said:
So...what do you think the mark is?

yeshuaslavejeff said:
There's been ENDLESS ARGUING ever since "many anti-Christs" infiltrated the Ekklesia's assemblies of believers in the first century.

The endless arguing is from Christians of different groups , and from whoever wherever every day, without resolving. They do not know what the mark is, the overall population accepts the mark, remember? They will not be able to buy or sell anything without it.
THey don't care - THEY TRUST their politicians, their bankers, their group leaders, their advisors, their investments, their job and their bank account, to provide for their needs - food and clothes and wants: houses , cars, tvs, planes, pools, rentals, etc etc etc...

DO NOT TRUST MEN. Do not trust governments (even for now when they might be used like Egypt was used by Yahweh) before the 'mrak' is final and damning ...

TRUST and Listen to and Obey the Father in Heaven and Jesus - HE IS OUR SHEPHERD!
!

Rely on Jesus and our Father to take care of all of our needs .....

'Thinking they have found the mark' many have fallen into depression or pride, outside of Jesus.

Whatever the mark is, just like the devil himself, DO NOT BE AFRAID! For the LORD, even our GOD, is our STRENGTH AND OUR JOY ! AND HE HAS BECOME OUR SALVATION ! (from all the world's power and from the devil and from sin and from death).

Trust. Keep Trusting the Father. Be afraid for nothing, while in His Care. Jesus is our Shepherd, and is Perfectly Capable, Faithful and Strong to save us according to His Word.

LittleLambofJesus · Jan 11, 2019

Bipolargirl said:
So...what do you think the mark is?

Howdy. Welcome to CF btw.........

I find it convenient to do google searches for topics on CF instead of the search function.

You may be shocked, or not, to find out how many threads there on the "mark"

For example, just key in "what is mark in revelation christianforums". Hope this helps

what is the mark revelation christianforums site:www.christianforums.com - Google Search

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SamanthaAnastasia · Jan 11, 2019

LittleLambofJesus said:
Howdy. Welcome to CF btw.........

I find it convenient to do google searches for topics on CF instead of the search function.

You may be shocked, or not, to find out how many threads there on the "mark"

For example, just key in "what is mark in revelation christianforums". Hope this helps

what is the mark revelation christianforums site:www.christianforums.com - Google Search

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I was just asking that user what his thoughts were. But thank you

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