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[OldWiseGuy]

Yes its very hard to regain your faith in humanity when you have been taught by the bible that all people are evil. I wish I had an answer for you why we are all sh#tty, but I don't and I doubt anyone does either.

The bible teaches that mankind's standard of good, as good as that might be, is evil compared to God's standard. That is what conversion, by the power of the Holy Spirit, is all about; to (become) perfect as God is perfect.

God has allowed to us the 'knowledge of good and of evil' but leaves it up to us which to live by. Man chooses evil, all the while believing he has chosen good.

 

[chrisstavrous]

The bible teaches that mankind's standard of good, as good as that might be, is evil compared to God's standard. That is what conversion, by the power of the Holy Spirit, is all about; to (become) perfect as God is perfect.

God has allowed to us the 'knowledge of good and of evil' but leaves it up to us which to live by. Man chooses evil, all the while believing he has chosen good.

Dirty rags and such I know, but go back to the genesis story and read what god said about the tree of knowledge. (Knowing good killed them too)

 

[lesliedellow]

But, if you have no faith in the value of humanity as a source of goodness, then why should humanity be preserved? What is the point of continuing our existence if it mostly does harm?

You first for the bottle of cyanide.

How many resolutions have their been to abolish war? and how often have they had any effect? The truth is that we are by far and away the most violent species on the planet.

Not only that, but the rich nations could easily abolish world poverty if they wanted to. They don't because their populations would not appreciate having their own standard of living greatly reduced in order to alleviate suffering elsewhere. So they salve their consciences by giving away a pittance in aid.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Dirty rags and such I know, but go back to the genesis story and read what god said about the tree of knowledge. (Knowing good killed them too)

Not exactly, as James 4:17 reveals:

"Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin."

Of course it wasn't entirely their fault (Adam and Eve) as God set them up to fall in order to move his plan of redemption along.

 

[chrisstavrous]

Not exactly, as James 4:17 reveals:

"Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin."

Of course it wasn't entirely their fault (Adam and Eve) as God set them up to fall in order to move his plan of redemption along.

I'll stop playing the know it all atheist, because it's unbecoming of my true nature.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I'll stop playing the know it all atheist, because it's unbecoming of my true nature.

Okay???

 

[chrisstavrous]

Okay???

All those clues are exactly right. (whoops! I mean question marks)

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I'll stop playing the know it all atheist, because it's unbecoming of my true nature.

Why would a 'Seeker' play the 'atheist'?

 

[chrisstavrous]

Why would a 'Seeker' play the 'atheist'?

I'm not a seeker either dude, theres just no option for (Just a human being)

A better answer: Since I was a seeker/christian/agnostic/atheist at one point I can still play around with those mind sets, its just habitual behaviour and I really dont want the mind set of any of those things.