Response from nirotu

[Ram]

Man. Why don't you go back and look at history, there has always been people who thought and claimed that Christ and Christianity could be brought down and how they were proved wrong time and again?

And you what happened to them?

They were proved that they were wrong by finsihing them off - take the case of Arianism, the case of crusades, take the case of sceintists in the medival periods who spoke against the science in Christianity, and anyone who talked against it were condemned and burnt as witches. Yeah, you are right - they were brought down.

But this time around, there is no such powerful church in existance that can destroy anyone who comes in its path. And you will see what happens after a while.

For your info, people have always tried to bring down Hinduism - the muslims, the christians by all forcible techniques, and nothing was achieved.

People in the recent times are trying their best to bring down Islam, but you it is not so easy even to bring down this doctrine.

Again you are making me laugh out loud here? How on earth can you go to the extent of assuming that I am frustrated for anything in here? Man, I think that you are still caught up in your number game. Where did you get the idea that was my point in here? Don't you realize that all those who tried destroying Christ and the truth of the gospel ended up finding later that "it is indeed hard for them to kick against the thorns? And isn't that what I am telling you here? Man. Let me tell you again. If you really want, try with all your might to stand against Christ and the truth of the Gospel. You will find for yourself all the "proof" that you seem to be demanding in here. But man, let me just tell you that it is indeed hard and painful to venture into anything like that.

Yes, they realised they kicked not against thorns- but against battle guns and stakes.

What? Would you try to go and look at the religious history of South Korea?

Do do even know what is going on in South Korea now?

Isn't that the problem with you guys in here? Aren't you guys blindly depending on your so called "powerful religions" while the Christians at the other end are strongly depending on the Awesome and Almighty God Himself? If you are assuming that you are fighting against evangelizing Christians, you are miserably wrong. Won't you try to understand that your so called struggle against Christians following the commands of Christ Himself is your nothing less than the fight against Christ Himself, the Almighty and Awesome God?

Blind beleif at best.

What arguments? Your so called arguments which are nothing better than dead snakes. Do you think that I will waste my time jumping over dead snakes?. Man. Your so called arguments were destroyed by your own incoherent, speculative and self contradictory claims long time back.

Dead snakes? But you dont even have that...dead snakes are better to empty vapourware. You did not even touch any of my arguments and chose to go against dead snakes instead.

Infact you could not even sratch the surface of the Hindu allegation that Christianity is an imported religon based on Hinduism and other religions.

Try these again or you can run/hide again but we know what you will do)

Shiva Purana has the story of Adam and Eve and this is an insignifcant part of Hindu literature. So this story that is the starting point of the bible is copied.

Lord Krishna lived in a place called Matura, while Jesus lived in a place called Maturea.

Just scratcing the surface here.

Infact Hindus can prove that the Old Testament is a copy from the Hindu puranas easily.

 

[arunma]

Just an observation (after reading your posts here), you seem to not only have religious but also some personal hatred towards the hindus. On top of that your facts and knowledge about Hinduism is often wrong.

"Personal hatred?" Now you're just speaking absurdities. I like to think that I have a mutual respect with Indianx and Proud Hindu. As for the rest of them, their posts are usually foolish and idiotic, but surely you'll have to come up with a better argument as to why I hate them.

 

[coolbodhi]

"Personal hatred?" Now you're just speaking absurdities.

Calm down please, it was just an observation thought out loud.

I like to think that I have a mutual respect with Indianx and Proud Hindu. As for the rest of them, their posts are usually foolish and idiotic,

When you say rest of them, do you mean rest of the Indians or rest of the Hindus? If you are speaking about rest of hindus then I would have to disagree with you.

Do you think that other posters here have a tendency to make foolish and idiotic posts (as you put it) or Do you just find the rest of the hindus making such posts?

but surely you'll have to come up with a better argument as to why I hate them.

So you are implying that as a christian you do hate the hindus.

 

[Ram]

When you say rest of them, do you mean rest of the Indians or rest of the Hindus? If you are speaking about rest of hindus then I would have to disagree with you.

Do you think that other posters here have a tendency to make foolish and idiotic posts (as you put it) or Do you just find the rest of the hindus making such posts?

Dont you understand this, come on coolbodhi.

Whoever makes either non confrontational or pleasing statements on basis of religion are respected.

Those come up with harder questions or confrontational arguments and he cannot refute , he dislikes and are called idiotic or foolish. If some Hindu were to express an interest in calling Hinduism as false - then he would suddenly shoot from being an idiot to a genius, overnight.

 

[arunma]

Calm down please, it was just an observation thought out loud.

It was quite a bit more than that. If you were thinking out loud, you most likely wouldn't have written it down.

When you say rest of them, do you mean rest of the Indians or rest of the Hindus? If you are speaking about rest of hindus then I would have to disagree with you.

Selwyn and I are the only non-Hindu Indians on this forum; do you wish to accuse us of idiocy?

Do you think that other posters here have a tendency to make foolish and idiotic posts (as you put it) or Do you just find the rest of the hindus making such posts?

I think that many of the Hindus make foolish posts. These include cut-and-pastes, statements motivated by false information regarding the Christian religion, and such statements as "Jesus is laughing on you" (which isn't even grammatically correct).

So you are implying that as a christian you do hate the hindus.

No, I am not. That was the point of the quoted text. But if you're willing to make the appropriate distinction, I certainly will admit to hating the Hindu religion. It is right to hate sin, which is why I hate Hinduism.

 

[arunma]

Those come up with harder questions or confrontational arguments and he cannot refute , he dislikes and are called idiotic or foolish. If some Hindu were to express an interest in calling Hinduism as false - then he would suddenly shoot from being an idiot to a genius, overnight.

Why do you not give this speech whenever Rahul responds to an anti-Christian post with the following smiley: ? He usually praises the intellect of anti-Christian posters as well.

 

[rahul_sharma]

Why do you not give this speech whenever Rahul responds to an anti-Christian post with the following smiley: ? He usually praises the intellect of anti-Christian posters as well.

Rahul?

I never praised any anti-Christian posters, I only praise posts to which i really agree.

I have praised many Christian posters here, don't you know that?

 

[coolbodhi]

It was quite a bit more than that. If you were thinking out loud, you most likely wouldn't have written it down.

Again, please calm down. I didn't realize that you don't take criticism very well. Most people don't mind you.

Selwyn and I are the only non-Hindu Indians on this forum; do you wish to accuse us of idiocy?

Do you want me to be the judge of other poster's posts to determine if the posts meet your criteria of being foolish and idiotic?

Surprisingly, that didn't make any sense since it was you that remarked about other poster's posts and judged them as foolish and idiotic. But then I read the rest of your post and realized that you have outlined the criteria for judging other's posts.

I think that many of the Hindus make foolish posts. These include cut-and-pastes, statements motivated by false information regarding the Christian religion, and such statements as "Jesus is laughing on you" (which isn't even grammatically correct).

If I understand you correctly, you mean that one can apply the following criteria to determine if a post is foolish and/or idiotic:

1. if a post is cut-and-paste
2. statements motivated by false information regarding the <insert your favourite religion here>

Using this criterion, yes, I find your posts idiotic and foolish because most of your post regarding Hinduism and Buddhism meet the #2 requirement.

No, I am not. That was the point of the quoted text. But if you're willing to make the appropriate distinction, I certainly will admit to hating the Hindu religion. It is right to hate sin, which is why I hate Hinduism.

You are just exercising your basic birth right to hate whatever that makes you feel better and secure. I am all for a thing that makes a man feel better and secure about himself.

 

[Saraswati-Devi]

Why do you not give this speech whenever Rahul responds to an anti-Christian post with the following smiley: ? He usually praises the intellect of anti-Christian posters as well.

Who's the "Anti-Christian posters"?

 

[Saraswati-Devi]

Rahul?

I never praised any anti-Christian posters, I only praise posts to which i really agree.

I have praised many Christian posters here, don't you know that?

MAN, there's allot of people calling you out!... LOL...

 

[coolbodhi]

Dont you understand this, come on coolbodhi.

Whoever makes either non confrontational or pleasing statements on basis of religion are respected.

Those come up with harder questions or confrontational arguments and he cannot refute , he dislikes and are called idiotic or foolish. If some Hindu were to express an interest in calling Hinduism as false - then he would suddenly shoot from being an idiot to a genius, overnight.

No, I do not understand that.



Anyhow arunma has outlined criteria for all of us posters here and we can now judge a post to determine if it is foolish and/or idiotic.

He is applying this criterion to judge posts by the hindus and I think it is a good criterion to apply to all posts and arunma would agree with me on this(otherwise it would be hypocritical).

 

[satay]

Who's the "Anti-Christian posters"?

Namaste Devi,

I bet he must have been thinking of me when he said that...'That Satay, that anti-christian with a christian catholic wife, Oh I hate him...I hate them all...I hate hinduism...sin...I tell ya...'



satay

 

[Saraswati-Devi]

Namaste Devi,

I bet he must have been thinking of me when he said that...'That Satay, that anti-christian with a christian catholic wife, Oh I hate him...I hate them all...I hate hinduism...sin...I tell ya...'



satay

There's allot of "hate" there!

 

[Saraswati-Devi]

Namaste Devi,

I bet he must have been thinking of me when he said that...'That Satay, that anti-christian with a christian catholic wife, Oh I hate him...I hate them all...I hate hinduism...sin...I tell ya...'



satay

I hope I'm not rapped up in the "hate blanket", since my boyfriend's a Christian too...

 

[rahul_sharma]

MAN, there's allot of people calling you out!... LOL...

Rahul Rahul everywhere in there posts, i wonder why?

Thank God most are praising me except some which include two Close minded , fundamentalist, foolish, idiotic and blind Hindu haters.

 

[satay]

Rahul Rahul everywhere in there posts, i wonder why?

Thank God most are praising me except some which include two Close minded , fundamentalist, foolish, idiotic and blind Hindu haters.

Well, I had to do this...

 

[Saraswati-Devi]

Rahul Rahul everywhere in there posts, i wonder why?

Thank God most are praising me except some which include two Close minded , fundamentalist, foolish, idiotic and blind Hindu haters.

Aint that dah true...
You'z cool with me, man!

 

[selwyn]

And you what happened to them?

They were proved that they were wrong by finsihing them off - take the case of Arianism, the case of crusades, take the case of sceintists in the medival periods who spoke against the science in Christianity, and anyone who talked against it were condemned and burnt as witches. Yeah, you are right - they were brought down.

But this time around, there is no such powerful church in existance that can destroy anyone who comes in its path. And you will see what happens after a while.

For your info, people have always tried to bring down Hinduism - the muslims, the christians by all forcible techniques, and nothing was achieved.

People in the recent times are trying their best to bring down Islam, but you it is not so easy even to bring down this doctrine.

Yes, they realised they kicked not against thorns- but against battle guns and stakes.

Do do even know what is going on in South Korea now?

Are you trying now desperately hard to demonstrate your hatred for Christianity in here? On the other hand, don't you realize that your so called hinduism has ended up devolving because of claims such as yours to the extent that there is a strong violent hinduic group growing rapidly in India against people of all other faiths? Have you already forgotten the babri masjid episode and the very recent communal riots in gujarat? Man. Let me tell you this. If you really want to stand against Christ and Christianity give your best try using any non-sensical violent method or hypocritical false propoganda you want to adopt. But remember again, It is indeed hard for you to kick against the thorns. History has many examples of people who attempted like your attempts and threats in here. Atleast, I as a Christian am confident on Who our God is and What He can do. On the other hand, remember that you yourself have admitted in here that indeed you are oscillating among various opinions about your so called various belief systems according to your whims and fancies and moods while often contradicting your own claims. With this state of mind, do you really think that you can even stand straight to begin any struggle against Christ?

Blind beleif at best.

What? I thought you are under blind belief as you had already accepted out here that you are just speculating with issues? And don't you remember that you proved yourself by one of your own posts to be belonging to the blind belief category. Go and read your own post in the thread "True or False". On top of that time and again you have proved yourself to be self-contradictory in here too.

Dead snakes? But you dont even have that...dead snakes are better to empty vapourware. You did not even touch any of my arguments and chose to go against dead snakes instead.

What kind of logic is this man -dead snakes better!!!!? And man, aren't you someone who still desperately try here to answer my questions only to end up proving yourself to be self-contradictory? Or are you claiming now that you were answering to vaporware so long and still ended up proving yourself to be self contradictory? And what argument of yours do you want me to question now, come on? Already haven't you gone to the extent of sheepishly admitting that you don't even remember what you write here washing away your hands of the hypocritical statements you have made, trying to portray yourself as the so called spiritually mature person out here? Just go back and read all your non-sensical posts to remind yourself of your speculations and self-contradictions.

Infact you could not even sratch the surface of the Hindu allegation that Christianity is an imported religon based on Hinduism and other religions.

Since it is nothing but a false unfounded hindu allegation, do you really think that I will waste my time on such lies out here by you guys? Can't you come up with anything better? Don't you realize that the whole world records the historical events based on the birth and death of Christ? Are you so foolish to think that me as a Christian would even waste time on your false lies like these now that all your speculations and assumptions and self contradictions have been exposed out here?

Try these again or you can run/hide again but we know what you will do)

Shiva Purana has the story of Adam and Eve and this is an insignifcant part of Hindu literature. So this story that is the starting point of the bible is copied.

Lord Krishna lived in a place called Matura, while Jesus lived in a place called Maturea.

Just scratcing the surface here.

Keep on scratching to come up with more lies if needed and try all the more harder!!!!

Do you think that if you repeat the lie thousand times in here that it will become atleast "partially true"? Man, a lie is a lie, Period. And don't you know that there are many other religions out there in the world claiming so many different things about Jesus? Can't you even understand the simple logic as to why people want to associate Jesus with their community one way or the other and not your so called Krishna? And doesn' t that clearly expose the fallacy of hinduism to the core? And if you don't know geography about places or archealogy, why don't you google it out and spend some time on finding out the different places on the earth to begin with rather than speculating all non-sense and partial truths as truth? And after admitting here openly that you guys infact can afford partial truths in hinduism along with speculations, how on earth do you even come up here expecting us to believe your non-sensical claims as anything even close to truth? Is it too difficult for me or anyone in here (after such and admission by you) to guess that you guys could have deliberately mixed up lies in your claims here just to win your so called debates? Ma

Infact Hindus can prove that the Old Testament is a copy from the Hindu puranas easily.

What? What again? Someone who has admitted so many times up here that he is just speculating on issues is claiming here that he can prove something out here. Oh man.Tell me again what non-sense you have proved here except running from your own non-sensical assertions and accepting that infact you are just speculating about things out here? And do you really think that you would be able to prove anything in here through your self-contradictory hypocritical claims? High hopes indeed!!!!!

 

[Bevlina]

OK, this has gone far enough. Thread closed for Staff Review.