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Respect and Tradition

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As a new convert to the church of god (baptised easter sunday 2012). When entering church should I bow, out of respect, then when recieving the holy communion should I first make the sign of the cross before recieving the sacrements?

I know I should as my church members but I dont want too feel like a complete fool.

many thanks

Dave. :)
 

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As a new convert to the church of god (baptised easter sunday 2012). When entering church should I bow, out of respect, then when recieving the holy communion should I first make the sign of the cross before recieving the sacrements?

I know I should as my church members but I dont want too feel like a complete fool.

many thanks

Dave. :)

Congratulations on being baptized! I'm not familiar with the tradition of bowing when entering the church, however making the sign of the cross when receiving communion is pretty common. Those are both good things to do, which I would do if that were the tradition of the parish where I attended. I hope I'm understanding your question.
 
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I agree. Bowing upon entering might be considered a bit much, although if you come close to the altar and the sanctuary light (lamp) is used and burning, indicating a reserved sacrament, face the altar and bow when passing in front of the altar. As for the communion, you can hardly go wrong no matter what you do--no sign of cross, sign only after receiving and prior to returning to your pew, or sign just before the priest comes in front of you with the bread and also before leaving (as above). You will surely see different people doing these things in their own way.
 
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i was confirmed in a liberal tec church , i was formerly a catholic, out of habit i kneel and cross myself before sitting

in the tec church i went to people received communion kneeling around the altar. which you cant do in a roman catholic church unless your goal is to have the mass last a minimum of 2 and a half hours

you basically want to do what everyone else does ,

the important thing is not to make a spectacle of yourself

go in peace to love and serve the Lord
and not spectacle
 
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In Anglo-Catholic parishes, you'll find people genuflecting as well as bowing.

With regard to Communion, here in NZ I've seen people make the Sign of the Cross after receiving Communion. However, there would be no harm in making the Sign of the Cross before Communion as well, if you wanted to.
 
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Thank you all for the kind words and helpfull replies.
Yes I do see people bow or curtsie (ladies)

I believe that what you are describing there is a half-hearted genuflection, probably as a result of some arthritis, bad knees, etc. It's also what accounts for the notorious "Anglican crouch" which is a kneeling in one's pew that puts the knees on the kneeler while keeping one's derriere on the pew. ;)
 
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As a new convert to the church of god (baptised easter sunday 2012). When entering church should I bow, out of respect, then when recieving the holy communion should I first make the sign of the cross before recieving the sacrements?

Once in a while I will bow before entering a church. It isn't necessary, but it does show respect.

Making the sign of the cross before receiving the Body and Blood is something I do, but again, it isn't necessary. I also say, before receiving each Species, "My Lord and my God." Again, my personal pious practice; it doesn't have to be done. Insofar as you receive Holy Communion properly and reverently, that is all that is ever asked.

Thank you all for the kind words and helpfull replies.
Yes I do see people bow or curtsie (ladies) when crossing or entering the altar. We kneel for communion. Some do and some dont make the sign of the cross.

I will do the same..

Dave :)

Sounds like a genuflection. Just drop to your right knee without any lunging. If you want to really be traditional, you can cross yourself as well.

Genuflecting on the left knee happens before a bishop, in case you were wondering why not the left knee ;)
 
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Genuflection is not necessary when entering the church building. However when you pass the altar genuflecting or bowing is expected. Since the pews are situated in front of the altar, people usually genuflect before taking their seats and when they leave the pew or get back in the pew.
 
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Genuflection is not necessary when entering the church building. However when you pass the altar genuflecting or bowing is expected. Since the pews are situated in front of the altar, people usually genuflect before taking their seats and when they leave the pew or get back in the pew.

If we're being technical...

not during the liturgy and not at other times unless there's a presence lamp lit.
 
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As a new convert to the church of God (baptised Easter Sunday 2012). When entering church should I bow, out of respect, then when recieving the holy communion should I first make the sign of the cross before recieving the sacraments?
Mazel tov on your baptism!

Bowing on entering the church is a custom I've never encountered. In some places they put vessels of water near the door, and some will dip their fingers and cross themselves on the forehead with the fingers so moistened.

A custom I learned as a child was to genuflect before entering one's pew.

Another custom I learned as a child is to cross oneself when the Gospel is announced during the celebration of the Eucharist.

Another custom is to cross oneself on beginning to sing or recite the Magnificat and Nunc dimittis at Evensong.

Another custom is to cross oneself at the words "the resurrection of the body" or at the immediately following words "And the life everlasting" in the Apostles' Creed (but not at both! Pick just one.)

Another custom is to cross oneself at the words "I look for the resurrection of the dead" or at the words "ant the life of the world to come" in the Nicene Creed. But again, not at both.

Another custom is to bow or genuflect during the Nicene Creed at the words the narrate our Lord's earthly life, "Who for us" to "and was buried." Some will bow or genuflect only during the mention of the incarnation. They will rise from the bow or genuflection at the words "For our sake he was crucified," but I think remaining in the bow or genuflection until "on the third day he rose" is the better practice, if one is going to use this custom at all. (I do not.)

Another custom is to cross oneself at the words "the Son" when receiving a Trinitarian blessing, such as, for example, "The blessing of God almighty, the Father, the ✠Son, and the Holy Ghost, be upon you..." The little cross before the word "Son" (did it come through as a cross on your browser?) indicates that one crosses oneself there. Similarly one may cross oneself at the absolution or declaration of forgiveness after a confession of sin at Morning or Evening Prayer or at the Eucharist. Similarly at the Grace at Morning or Evening Prayer, one may cross oneself at our Lord's name: "The grace of our Lord ✠Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Ghost be with us all evermore."

When bowing toward the communion table, one is either acknowledging the Holy Rood if there is one, or the reserved sacrament, if there is one. Those who say that one only bows here if the reserved sacrament is present are mistaken. One may reverence the Holy Rood as well as the Holy Sacrament.

Another custom is, at a church-service that begins with a procession, to bow in acknowledgement of the processional cross.

Another custom is to cross oneself before receiving the cup at communion. If you want to cross yourself before receiving the bread, plan ahead so you will have your hands ready to receive it when the one who distributes it approaches (if you receive it in your hand) or so your arm will not be blocking access to your mouth (if you receive it on your tongue.) One may also cross oneself after receiving. My advice would be to cross oneself just once at the communion-rail, whether before receiving the bread, before receiving the cup or after receiving.

In the Western church it has been customary to cross oneself oneself (1) forehead (2) belly (3) left shoulder (4) right shoulder. In the Eastern church the right shoulder comes before the left shoulder. I do it sometimes the Eastern way, sometimes the Western way.

It is important to keep things in perspective and now allow minor practices like these to cause you worry. One must also not let them be occasions of spiritual pride: One who uses these customs should not think himself better than one who does not. One who refrains from using them should not pass judgement on those who use them.
 
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Wow. information overload... :)
yes it does look like cross in my browser.

I was talking to one of the church wardens last night jus tbefore said mass last night about this. She said that this will all be made clear during confirmation classes (which myself and maybe my wife will attend) The Bishop will be at church for confirmations at the end of September.

thank you all.

Dave.
 
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