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I want to know he's real
Then lets say right now at this very moment you would truly find evidence that GOD is real, what would that be, what would that look like, whats the "proof" that you are EXACTLY looking for that would totally without a single doubt cause you to say: There is a God and HE IS REAL
 
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Then lets say right now at this very moment you would truly find evidence that GOD is real, what would that be, what would that look like, whats the "proof" that you are EXACTLY looking for that would totally without a single doubt cause you to say: There is a God and HE IS REAL
Well, to see the exact things from Christians that Jesus said they could do with faith.

Well, to finally have my healing.

Well, to be in communion with the creator and have it tell me he's Jesus

Well, to see my past prayers to him answered.

Stuff like that.
 
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It's an issue of the heart. The Bible is not just a book, pages and ink. It's the inspired Word of God. 2nd Timothy 3:16. God chooses to use the Bible as a way to reach out to you, to speak to you directly. If your heart is closed, it will be complete foolishness to you. 1 Corinthians 1:18. If you resist the pull of the Spirit on your heart (inner-most) continuously you will be in danger of rejecting your own personal relationship with God for good. You should know the whole talk of Heaven and Hell and your soul's reality is a serious issue, You get to choose, one or the other. Good or evil. Simplicity that even children can engage.
 
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Well, to see the exact things from Christians that Jesus said they could do with faith.

Well, to finally have my healing.

Well, to be in communion with the creator and have it tell me he's Jesus

Well, to see my past prayers to him answered.

Stuff like that.

That's not likely to happen, because without faith it's impossible to please Him. Faith isn't proof.
 
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I know. ..Ooo you know what. I'm bored of reading the Bible.
That's a little hard to fathom because you're still hanging out around here. Why are you here?
 
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If I never get the evidence that Jesus is God, and because of this I can never be sure. If I end up not believing in him in this life, but it ends up that Jesus is real. Will he judge me based on this factor?

It depends on how you conducted the investigation. If you have no preconceived biases and still came up with nothing, Jesus might ignore that.

It's not the big issue really. It's what you do.

It's about helping the weak and good in this world and exposing evil (including evil people) in this world.

If you do the things above, It doesn't matter even if you're Atheist. Jesus will accept you as family and you will be saved. Because such deeds are a sign of indwelling of God. Even if you don't believe in God doesn't negate the fact. Just ask yourself why some people do it despite going against human nature? It's not them anymore, it's what's inside.
 
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thats just it, believing is up to you and only you are limiting yourself, not God or anyone else, you simply believe and on the yes or no part the answer is yes ;)


You can't really force yourself to believe something you really don't.
 
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That's just it, I don't want to believe and believe more. I want to know he's real. So far not one Christian has made a convincing argument or offered me any evidence that their God is real.
Hello Underpar.

Zechariah 9:9
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout in triumph, O daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your king is coming to you; He is just and endowed with salvation,
Humble, and mounted on a donkey, even on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

This text was written about 500 BC.

Do you believe that this humble king ever visited Israel?
 
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Hello Underpar.

Zechariah 9:9
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout in triumph, O daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your king is coming to you; He is just and endowed with salvation,
Humble, and mounted on a donkey, even on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

This text was written about 500 BC.

Do you believe that this humble king ever visited Israel?
According to the gospels lots of things happened, but according to what other sources did Jesus ride in on(One, or two donkeys?)
 
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It depends on how you conducted the investigation. If you have no preconceived biases and still came up with nothing, Jesus might ignore that.

It's not the big issue really. It's what you do.

It's about helping the weak and good in this world and exposing evil (including evil people) in this world.

If you do the things above, It doesn't matter even if you're Atheist. Jesus will accept you as family and you will be saved. Because such deeds are a sign of indwelling of God. Even if you don't believe in God doesn't negate the fact. Just ask yourself why some people do it despite going against human nature? It's not them anymore, it's what's inside.
Hmm you think a lot of Christians like that idea. That by works one can enter heaven, well that's what it will come down to.
 
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Do you believe the flood happened in the days of Noah?
We have the rainbow in the sky as a token of God's covenant not to destroy the world again by water.
We have signs today such as one of Noah's grandsons has the name - that is actually Egypt. Check the name of Cush too.
Bible history is written in extreme detail - as begat -begat - begat...
We have the world with many languages.
Jesus Christ had to come within the time slot of Daniel 9 and die before the time of the city and the sanctuary destroyed by the under Titus.
John the Baptist was recorded in history many times outside of the Bible as a source.
Nature still goes along as God has set it up -rain falls from the sky- seed from plants - day and night -
Rainbow exist wherever there's a prism.
 
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