Reputation Maxed Out

[RedTulipMom]

i love you all and i hope you all take this with the intent it is meant...

We all are different..we are all at different places in our spiritual walk. We all have different dislikes and likes. We all have different hobbies...we all like different music and movies. We are not made like anyone else. God created us all as individuals with different tastes.

Some people come to CF to pray for others. Some people come to CF to debate. Some people come to CF to fellowship. Some people come to CF to relax and have fun and play games. Some come for a little of everything. There is nothing WRONG with any of it.

Many people on CF have had a load of FUN in the blessing exchange handing out blessings and playing blessing games and creating silly CF dollies. Some have had a load of FUN in the Rep forum exchanging reps and gaining stars. Not EVERYONE wants to play in the rep forum...thats ok. But for those that do...why can't they have FUN?

The great thing about CF is the diversity..theres something for everyone. I don't understand why someone who is here to pray thinks that the rep forum needs to be closed down or someone who is here to debate thinks the dollies should be turned off..etc. I have seen it time and time again on CF. Why can't we all just realize that everyone isnt here for the same reason. Why can't we accept each others differences and be happy that everyone here has SOMETHING they enjoy doing. Why do people constantly try and close down other peoples FUN spots? i don't get it. If you dont want to play in the BE or the Rep forum..DONT! I am not trying to be mean here either..i am sick of all the bickering and nonsense here!

If the managements wants to change the name of reputation to STARS or FUN POINTS or Game points..so be it i guess. But please could we just all get along and be nice and allow others to have fun?

i have a suggestion...when the NEW CF first opened ..for the first 24 hours it had something called "THANK YOUS". There was no limit to thank yous...if you liked a post you could click on the thank you and it showed up under the persons post...that might be a good substitute for reputation...maybe think of turning it back on??? then change the reputations points to a name like Star points or whatever...

or just leave it all be!

as far as a CEILING on reps...thats up to management..i could see both good and bad in the rep ceiling idea. The positive of a ceiling would be..once people reach the ceiling..instead of getting more reps..those people could spend their time going around repping others..which would be nice. Even in a video game eventually you win the game and get to the end! But then again..there is no ceiling on post counts or blessings..so why on reps? i dont know..just throwing stuff out there to think about. Again..the management will decide i guess.

Love to all my brothers and sisters..

 

[Tychicus2]

Well Said RTM I'll find a post and REP you... LOL

Ty

 

[SunMessenger]

RTM

No one is insinuating that the rep forum should close. Some people may have problems with numbers addictions and they should stay away. No doubt about it. I also agree that BE was the place to be at one point before all this controversy. The cause of controversy I believe is lack of leadership. Not in numbers of supervisors that is for sure there are too many. True leadership needs to take hold. We need few numbers with more commonsense and fortitude to do what is right and not give a flying rep point about who likes it. This needs to be done tempered with compassion and yet guided by good old fashion commonsense. I only see this peeking through the large blue alphabet. We need one or two with accountability and with the time to proceed. It was my suggestion instead of the 7/7/7 mess and it remains the same today.

Ty

You are a wonderful Christian and everyone loves you. I know you pray everyday and I feel your worship in your expressions and caring. These are numbers we are discussing not peoples souls .We are talking about people who do not have control of their numbers addictions as you do. I contend only and most importantly that they are misrepresented as reputation points when they are no longer that. They are just a numbers race. When I pray each day here I see members who have been here much longer than all of us combined praying and helping each other daily much longer than any of us have even been here. I look at their reputation points and see few. Why? Is their reputation less than yours or mine? Not at all. Should they feel less than you or I? No we know that. What has happened is the one indicator of what is symbolized to represent character and reputation has gone wild in the form of a numbers game. It is my contention that was not the intent of that rating. A recreational fun point rating has cohabitated with it and inturn produced numbers that are insane. Your reputation would never be in question in my book and you of all people know that. We have let this numbers aspect of the forum run wild and every once in awhile it needs to be calmed to keep things in line and that is really all this is about. Members have been frustrated here enough with people banned and so on . If this is under construction now as a new forum perhaps we should start with a solid foundation building larger from there and make this truly one of the forums that sits high on the hill.

God bless...

Sun

 

[Ariel]

RTM, I never said that we need to do away with reputation. I am saying that it is not what it purports to be. Getting reputation points is nothing more than an online game. It has nothing to do with actual reputation or character. It is only a game score and should be removed from our data sheet on the right hand corner of our posts.

Also does it make sense that if the rep cap is removed eventually people will be able to give someone nine billion stars with one rep? Look at that proposed number for the cap. That's what that means.

It's ludicrous.

 

[Tychicus2]

I understand where your coming from Sun and I have no problem re-naming them... I don't think Reps have anything to do with people getting banned though... I don't see a long term future for CF if the current leadership remains in charge... ? That's about all I can say about that...

Ariel... you do understand if the Rep cap is raised it's going to take a long time for anyone to get to that new proposed ceiling... it's not going to happen in a week or two... I don't pretend to have all the answers... It would not have happened like it did if I were making the decisions up to now...

Ty

 

[Ariel]

Going back to something said earlier about reducing the number of reps per day to ten or twenty.

I am opposed to this. We need to keep the number at 40 as long as the reps are still tied to an individual 24 hour schedule.

The only way to be able to rep someone anytime you want is to only use half your reps per day. In other words, if you never use more than 20 reps a day, you can use 20 whenever you want. This strategy may require some discipline, but it reduces the anathema of the 24 hour schedule.

 

[Nadiine]

I'm a seriously addicted repaholic and I LOVE THE REP CAP!!
Set it at a good number (3-10 bill.), keep it at 40 reps and let that be it. =)

For people who aren't using sox & repping themselves silly, this is MORE than plenty!! People who are using sox will reach any goal you set alot quicker than anyone else. Realistically without sox, repping takes a whole lot longer.

Or, if you don't Cap the reps you could lower the reps down to 30? (10 & 20 are just way too few).

*Radicallytransformedmom's post is excellent -

I agree, there are pro's and con's to capping or not capping. I think capping has more pro's. I don't know about anyone else, but a GOAL is nice to have - neverending makes it a compulsive thing after awhile and I do believe everyone eventually feels that compulsion! (I know I felt it until I saw reps were capped and I was happy when it seemed like there was an end to it all). I want mass reps too, but - gosh...

As somebody else noted, even vid. games have an end - I think this alleviates all possible anxiety and compulsiveness and sets a high mark for reppers.
I'm happy to hit a goal and feel good about it & then go bless others with the reps. It's also nice to feel like you accomplished a goal too.

One last comment - if they want, let them leave the reputations as they are, but ADD the game Stars as a separate thingy for gameplay.
They can keep that as a game & have it never ending.
For people who are repping for good posts (and getting reps for good posts) it should stay the same name to be fair. The Pandora's box was already open, you can't unopen it now - some will have high rep scores from a game; so be it.

Reputation should be capped imho. (there are still lots of members who haven't hung out in the rep forum & who should be able to recieve regular reps for good posts) - game stars can continue forever if they want to play it like a BE game.

 

[Nadiine]

from deShay:

Also, please change the name from "reputation." This is a GAME. "Game score" would be a more fitting name. These scores have nothing to do with reputation or character.

I have played this game for some time now. I've learned a lot, mostly about myself. But I've also seen the harm trying to achieve high "rep" scores does.

I wanted to add a note, it's not really fair to people who have nothing to do w/ the Rep. Forum to remove the name Reputation when they were getting reps for the original intended purpose of a good post.
They weren't playing a stars game when they got theirs.

I still give out reps for good posts and encouragement/blessing to people outside the forum & I want them to know that's what it was for.

I don't think it's fair to change this on them when they didn't play any Rep. games. ALOT have not played. Alot did play, but didn't play for long and haven't been around.

I think Reputation should be kept in tact - keep it capped for now, make a new "GS" (game stars) thingy up & let people play the stars game.
(that mite not even be possible to do tho).

I just think changing it to game stars isn't accurate when I'm repping somebody for a great post & they don't play rep games at all. I don't think it's fair to them.

 

[SunMessenger]

There is no better system to send a brief note to someone regarding a post or anything else for that matter than the rep system. I am not against it but I do think it needs an overhaul. It has gotten cofused or mixed with something else that I really don't understand. The original intent was indeed to show satisfaction or dissatisfaction with a post or poster. That should remain and then those true reputation numbers would really begin to mean something again...

Sun

 

[RedTulipMom]

Nadine makes a good point that many people on CF don't play the rep games so changing the name of reputation would affect THOSE people. Besides the rep games people often use reputation to leave comments for good posts. So for some its a dual purpose, for others its just for leaving comments. I really don't think LeeD is involved enough here to even care one way or another about reps or rep games. The fact is the BE and Rep forum have brought in alot of posts and posters here at CF. A month ago there was a list posted that showed that the BE was the number 1 highest posts at CF (over all time here) and the OBOB (Catholic Forum) had the 2nd highest posts. So whether people realize it or not...the game players and the Catholics make up the majority of CF.
Since the May software changes when we lost the majority of our functions, we lost 80% of the posting in the BE as well as the majoriy of our posters there...thats why the overall statistics have dropped so much and that is why they are working hard to bring back the FUN stuff

ok..im rambling now..sorry..huggs to all

 

[Tychicus2]

If it were not for the fellowship with the people in BE... CF would cease to be CF... The only thing *Christian* about CF now are the Christians here on the forum I would that it were otherwise and continue to pray...

God Bless,
Ty

 

[Ariel]

I've been thinking about what everyone has said and talking to some in private. It wouldn't matter if you changed things around, and made a "thank you" note counter. People would still get on with their socks and thank themselves silly. Regardless of what you call it, people would want to be known as kind, benevolent, wonderful highly thanked or reputed people.

Imagine this: Judgment day, and we flash our "reputation" scores as proof positive that we are good, kind, wonderful, highly thanked or reputed people.

So I'm going back to what I have said all along. "Reputation" isn't reputation. No matter what you call it it will have a false value.

 

[Tychicus2]

Praying Here,
Ty

 

[Nadiine]

I've been thinking about what everyone has said and talking to some in private. It wouldn't matter if you changed things around, and made a "thank you" note counter. People would still get on with their socks and thank themselves silly. Regardless of what you call it, people would want to be known as kind, benevolent, wonderful highly thanked or reputed people.

Imagine this: Judgment day, and we flash our "reputation" scores as proof positive that we are good, kind, wonderful, highly thanked or reputed people.

So I'm going back to what I have said all along. "Reputation" isn't reputation. No matter what you call it it will have a false value.

Yep
It's just a thing offered on a forum - it can be used as incentive, blessing, encouragement or fun.
I don't think anyone should take it too seriously.

 

[MariaRegina]

I like the "thank you" feature that I have seen on other sites.
Can everyone read the thank you's or is it private?

I think that reputations should be changed to game points. It would make more sense.
And the Thank you's can be for more meaningful posts.

 

[Tychicus2]

Has a decision been made about raising the Rep Cap or not?

Can we know the answer at some point please?

Thanks,
Ty

 

[SirAdrian]

I think it's still under staff discussion (a limit, but not necessarily this limit).

I have bumped up the reputation limit from 2147483647 to 9223372036854775807.

 

[Tychicus2]

Thanks Sir Adrian...

 

[pgp_protector]

Thanks.
Posted a thread for it in the Repaholics section.

 

[Tychicus2]

Rep cap is still in place???

Ty