Republican Party on the Decline?

[Albion]

Romney said he would bomb Iran which, it turns out, did not have nukes and has turned into a stabilizing force in the middle east.

It was not said that Iran had nukes at the point, but that they were working on it. Nothing has changed that. How anyone could consider Iran to be a "stabilizing force in the middle east," though, I don't know.

Obama has created more jobs than any president in history

We usually don't count part time jobs like that. Meanwhile, the percent of the population that's working is less now than at any time since the 1970s.

Contrary to all the endless lies from the far right news media, his administration has been a great success and would have been better if Republicans had not engaged in obstructionism.

Wow. You memorized every word!

Of course Harry Reid has been the obstructionist. And there's no denying that since every piece of legislation goes to the Senate to die without a hearing.

OTOH you probably WILL deny it.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I've never heard that before. What scripture do they use to support this?

His interactions with Saul's son are somewhat... Suggestive

 

[PsychoSarah]

I take it you don't believe in voting for the lesser of two evils then? Even though you may not have liked everything about Romney in the last election, wouldn't he have been better than Obama?

I think they both aren't especially great, but I do consider Obama the lesser of two evils. Although I have to laugh at what would happen if he was impeached like so many people were screaming for

 

[TLK Valentine]

I think they both aren't especially great, but I do consider Obama the lesser of two evils. Although I have to laugh at what would happen if he was impeached like so many people were screaming for

I'm sure President Biden would be an uplifting inspiration to our country...

 

[HonestTruth]

another reason why Republicans are not in jeopardy of losing power - ballot fixing:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUoUPFNCqK0

 

[HonestTruth]

It was not said that Iran had nukes at the point, but that they were working on it. Nothing has changed that. How anyone could consider Iran to be a "stabilizing force in the middle east," though, I don't know.


We usually don't count part time jobs like that. Meanwhile, the percent of the population that's working is less now than at any time since the 1970s.



Wow. You memorized every word!

Of course Harry Reid has been the obstructionist. And there's no denying that since every piece of legislation goes to the Senate to die without a hearing.

OTOH you probably WILL deny it.

How anyone could consider Iran to be a "stabilizing force in the middle east," though, I don't know.



Even the Fox network believes it:


US, Iran, longtime enemies, working toward nuclear deal, even talking about stabilizing Iraq | Fox News


As does right wing hero Bush:


Bush calls on Iran, Syria to help stabilize Iraq



Even Breitbart believes it - Google it if you wish to see more.





As for obstructionists, everyone knows it's Republicans who are the chief ones. They hate President Obama and openly declared that they want his administration to fail.

 

[Albion]

How anyone could consider Iran to be a "stabilizing force in the middle east," though, I don't know.



Even the Fox network believes it:


US, Iran, longtime enemies, working toward nuclear deal, even talking about stabilizing Iraq | Fox News

Yeh, I seem to remember hearing that, but it still seems a very dubious idea.

As does right wing hero Bush:

When did Bush become a "right wing hero?"

As for obstructionists, everyone knows it's Republicans who are the chief ones. They hate President Obama and openly declared that they want his administration to fail.

It must be comforting to think of the world in such simplistic terms.

I'd recommend not watching MSNBC so much.

 

[Aldebaran]

His interactions with Saul's son are somewhat... Suggestive

Suggestive if misinterpreted. When sexual relations occurred in the bible, the phrases used are ones like "He laid with her" or "He had relations with her".

But we have to remember that the word "love" in English language has a loose meaning. In Hebrew, it is more specific. Eros is the word for sexual love, agape is the word for the love God has for us, Phileo (I hope that's spelled right) is the word for brotherly love. The word for the love between David and Jonathan is 'âhab, which is nonspecific and can mean the love of anything, including your favorite meal. If David and Jonathan were gay lovers, the word used there would have been eros.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Suggestive if misinterpreted. When sexual relations occurred in the bible, the phrases used are ones like "He laid with her" or "He had relations with her".

Or "he knew her."

 

[Aldebaran]

Or "he knew her."

Right. That also shows the level of intimacy Jesus has with us when He says in Revelation, "Depart from Me, I never knew you". He's referring to the unity between Jesus and His followers as being an intimate relationship, although not an "eros" type of relationship.

 

[GarfieldJL]

How anyone could consider Iran to be a "stabilizing force in the middle east," though, I don't know.



Even the Fox network believes it:


US, Iran, longtime enemies, working toward nuclear deal, even talking about stabilizing Iraq | Fox News

That's what some people at Fox News think, other people at Fox News have made it clear they believe the idea is completely insane (and they'd be right).

Btw, the fact that the Obama Administration wants to let Iran have nukes, doesn't change the fact it is a bad idea.

As does right wing hero Bush:


Bush calls on Iran, Syria to help stabilize Iraq



Even Breitbart believes it - Google it if you wish to see more.

Doesn't mean we have to let Iran have nukes to get them to help, the Iranians know perfectly well that they're probably one of ISIS's next targets, because they are Shiite, not Sunni.

As for obstructionists, everyone knows it's Republicans who are the chief ones. They hate President Obama and openly declared that they want his administration to fail.

That's cause they believe that Obama's real goal is to wreck this country, and that Obama considers Conservatives to be more of an enemy than Islamic Terrorists.

 

[Vylo]

None of whom could appeal to their own base.

Ron Paul certainly appealed to much of the GOP base, and for every far right vote they would have lost they would have gained 2 moderate/liberal votes.

 

[GarfieldJL]

Ron Paul certainly appealed to much of the GOP base, and for every far right vote they would have lost they would have gained 2 moderate/liberal votes.

Considering Ron Paul would be perfectly happy to let ISIS continue to expand, cause as far as he's concerned it would be none of our business, I think a lot of Conservatives would vote for Hillary Clinton over Ron Paul, that's how bad his foreign policy is.

If we were dealing with peacetime, then I think he could in theory make a decent President, but right now, having an isolationist as President would be completely insane.

 

[TLK Valentine]

If we were dealing with peacetime, then I think he could in theory make a decent President, but right now, having an isolationist as President would be completely insane.

Well, there's the rub -- when was the last time you would consider us in "peacetime"?

 

[GarfieldJL]

Well, there's the rub -- when was the last time you would consider us in "peacetime"?

Pre 9/11/2001, was pretty peaceful.

The problem with Ron Paul's foreign policy is that this isn't the same world it was 200+ years ago (even with the war of 1812), the fact of the matter is that whole wars could be fought, beginning to end, by the time we heard about the war starting.

The Atlantic Ocean isn't the barrier it once was, heck even in World War II, the continental United States was essentially safe from Nazi airpower. We were literally outside the range of Germany's bombers, many of them would have ran out of gas getting here.

Once Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and Germany then foolishly declared war on the US, it was the beginning of the end for the Axis Powers. We had the natural resources, manufacturing capability, technology, and manpower to completely obliterate them.

We could easily build aircraft that could make it across the Atlantic Ocean to the UK. Germany couldn't boast the same about building military aircraft that could cross the Atlantic.

Today, it is very easy to travel to the US, just hop on any large passenger aircraft. We're looking at distances being travelled in hours, that it used to take days or even weeks to traverse. We can't afford to ignore things anymore, because the Atlantic is no longer the barrier it once was.

 

[TLK Valentine]

That's cause they believe that Obama's real goal is to wreck this country, and that Obama considers Conservatives to be more of an enemy than Islamic Terrorists.

How much more proof do we need that they're out of touch with reality?

 

[GarfieldJL]

How much more proof do we need that they're out of touch with reality?

That is one possibility, however there is also the possibility that they aren't the one's out of touch with reality.

WATCH This War-Fighting Expert Angrily Expose Obama's 'Phony' Air Campaign Against ISIS

U.S. air campaign against Islamic State isn?t achieving its aims - The Washington Post

Seriously, could you tell me with a straight face tell me that Obama's Air Campaign is working if the objective were to degrade and destroy ISIS?

 

[Vylo]

So how many drone strikes has Obama used against conservatives? Then you might have a point.

 

[GarfieldJL]

So how many drone strikes has Obama used against conservatives? Then you might have a point.

How many do you think he could get away with currently? I think even his leftwing media worshippers would balk.

He would end up being impeached and removed from office, cause Harry Reid wouldn't be able to keep many Democrat Senators from supporting Republicans to have Obama removed from office).

 

[Savior2006]

How many do you think he could get away with currently?

Do you honestly think Obama would drone people like you if he could "get away with it?"

Because that speculative crap is oftentimes just that.