Republican Party becoming the party of blue collar workers

[The Barbarian]

Black, Latino Seniors in Virginia Get COVID-19 Vaccine Priority as White 85-Year-Olds Wait - Judicial Watch

Well, let's take a look at that belief...

Of the numbers that are shown on VDH's website, White people account for about 72% of COVID-19 vaccinations, Black people account for 12%, and Latinos account for about 5%.
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This is despite the fact that Blacks and Latinos combined make up nearly 48% of the state's COVID-19 hospitalizations and 31% of deaths.

Lawrence said several factors are causing the disparity when it comes to vaccinations.

"The first group that went was 1A, our healthcare workers. And so a majority of them are actually white individuals," Lawrence explained. "And two, we can't forget about vaccine hesitancy."

Lawrence said government mistrust and a lack of access to resources in minority communities also widen the gap.
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That's why the health district recruits community leaders, like Pastor Ralph Hodge, from Second Baptist Church on Richmond's Southside, to help get vaccines to black families in underserved neighborhoods.

"When you look at Southside, we don't have a lot of pharmacies, we don't have a lot of small clinics," Hodge said. "So people getting to doctors' offices or pharmacies for that matter is hard."
https://www.wtvr.com/news/coronavir...race-ethnicity-data-for-covid-19-vaccinations

This is what we would expect of "Judicial Watch." Being what they are, they seem to be mostly outraged that the state of Virginia is taking steps to see that minorities are getting vaccinated at the same rates as whites.

 

[The Barbarian]

With Trump no longer in power will they go after Paul now?

I'm really disappointed with Paul. His dad was a genuine libertarian, and he would never have compromised himself with the terrorists who attacked the Capitol.

 

[Erik Nelson]

democrats are the party of groups that are becoming more numerous

Apparently just in time for the 2020 election

When did we have a mass amnesty for illegal aliens?

I need a history lesson? "Visionaries" like Eugene Debs and the AFL-CIO Labor Unions got immigration from Europe virtually banned over a hundred years ago...and mean-the-entire-century-long-while both parties (including Labor Union-backed Dems) have consistently supported mass immigration via Mexico

Immigration from North and South America was not restricted

no limits were set on immigration from Latin America

Samuel Gompers...the founder of the American Federation of Labor (AFL), supported the act because he opposed the cheap labor that immigration represented...Both the AFL and the Ku Klux Klan supported the act...Mexican immigrants were allowed to continue immigrating based on their perceived willingness to provide cheap labor​

National Origins Formula - Wikipedia
Emergency Quota Act - Wikipedia
Immigration Act of 1924 - Wikipedia

 

[Erik Nelson]

Well, let's take a look at that belief...

Of the numbers that are shown on VDH's website, White people account for about 72% of COVID-19 vaccinations, Black people account for 12%, and Latinos account for about 5%.
...
This is despite the fact that Blacks and Latinos combined make up nearly 48% of the state's COVID-19 hospitalizations and 31% of deaths.

Lawrence said several factors are causing the disparity when it comes to vaccinations.

"The first group that went was 1A, our healthcare workers. And so a majority of them are actually white individuals," Lawrence explained. "And two, we can't forget about vaccine hesitancy."

Lawrence said government mistrust and a lack of access to resources in minority communities also widen the gap.
...
That's why the health district recruits community leaders, like Pastor Ralph Hodge, from Second Baptist Church on Richmond's Southside, to help get vaccines to black families in underserved neighborhoods.

"When you look at Southside, we don't have a lot of pharmacies, we don't have a lot of small clinics," Hodge said. "So people getting to doctors' offices or pharmacies for that matter is hard."
https://www.wtvr.com/news/coronavir...race-ethnicity-data-for-covid-19-vaccinations

This is what we would expect of "Judicial Watch." Being what they are, they seem to be mostly outraged that the state of Virginia is taking steps to see that minorities are getting vaccinated at the same rates as whites.

Your source claims the US has "zero" cases of recovery from COVID

Only country on planet earth to have "zero" recoveries

 

[The Barbarian]

democrats are the party of groups that are becoming more numerous

Apparently just in time for the 2020 election

At the end, Trump administration got better at stopping people illegally crossing the border. In fact, the last year, he approached Obama's record. How does stopping more illegal aliens increase votes for anyone?

Barbarian asks:
When did we have a mass amnesty for illegal aliens?

I need a history lesson?

Apparently, you do. First you confused limits on immigration with an amnesty:

"Visionaries" like Eugene Debs and the AFL-CIO Labor Unions got immigration from Europe virtually banned over a hundred years ago...and mean-the-entire-century-long-while both parties (including Labor Union-backed Dems) have consistently supported mass immigration via Mexico

And then you confused unrestricted immigration with amnesty for illegal immigrants:

Immigration from North and South America was not restricted
no limits

were set on immigration from Latin America

That's not what "amnesty" means. Yes, when America grew to be a great and prosperous nation, we had few, if any limits on immigration, particularly from Latin America. But it wasn't an "amnesty."

Look it up.

 

[The Barbarian]

Your source claims the US has "zero" cases of recovery from COVID

Johns Hopkins University compiled the information from national governments. From the link:
Table updates hourly. Figures are as reported by governments and health authorities and may include probable positive cases and deaths.

Source: Esri; Johns Hopkins Graphic Phil Holm & Nicky Forster

Only country on planet earth to have "zero" recoveries

No, that's wrong, too. Belgium, Sweden, and Serbia also failed to report those numbers to the source. The Trump administration messed up, but so did several other nations. Go back and look.

 

[The Barbarian]

But back to the point. You source claiming blacks were getting vaccines in Virginia to the exclusion of whites turns out to have it exactly wrong. A higher percentage of whites are getting the vaccine than the percentage of blacks getting the vaccine.

But it's "Judicial Watch" making the false claim, so that's not entirely surprising. What has them in a lather is not that more blacks than whites are getting vaccinated. They're upset because the state is trying to get blacks vaccinated at the same rates they are vaccinating whites.

For reasons we all understand.

 

[hedrick]

Won't be long before millennials and Z's dominate the elections:
The GOP’s Demographic Doom

Maybe. But don't underestimate the ability of Republican legislatures to jigger voting. I think it could be quite a while before this happens.

 

[The Barbarian]

Maybe. But don't underestimate the ability of Republican legislatures to jigger voting. I think it could be quite a while before this happens.

It's harder to Gerrymander age than it is to Gerrymander race. So I'm thinking they have to try other things, like disenfranchising college students, or adding additional "ballot security documents requirements."

All those have an effect, but they are merely rear-guard actions, which delays but doesn't change reform.

 

[Erik Nelson]

For reasons we all understand.

Evidently not

JW is spotlighting the shift, away from needy elderly who happen to be white, in phase two of their rolling vaccination program.

The stats you allege, uncritically accepted, must derive from phase one -- when "healthcare professionals" and nursing home patients were prioritized. Assuming you're right, most "healthcare pro's" and nursing home elderly happened to be white.

Is that their fault?

Phase two includes the remaining "age 65+" category -- except now elderly, the most affected by COVID, who just so happen to be white are being denied vaccines they need more than anyone else... in favor of minorities and even convicted criminals and illegal aliens

Gov. Cuomo is in charge of VA too

 

[Erik Nelson]

That's not what "amnesty" means.

That's not even relevant

Fact remains, immigration via Mexico from Latin America has been preferentially promoted, in the explicit verbatim name of "cheap labor", for a hundred years...

by everyone from Dems to Repubs to the AFL to the KKK

They all appear by day as "pro Labor" by closing America's front door to European immigration...

and then leave the back door wide open to Latino immigration

Amnesty, preferential immigration quotas (or lack thereof), six of this, half a dozen of that, all amounts to "door wide open" for Latinos to supply "cheap labor" even while the door is shut to Europe and other regions of the world

That's why today the best estimates are 20-30M undocumented workers from Latin America:

Tucker Carlson Exposes the REAL Reason for Dems Awful Immigration Policy​

Profound social impact, by one way or another, their (and their legal relatives') votes overwhelmingly support the Dems

Is the southern border and employment of cheap illegal labor a case where "more regulation" would help the Working Class and Society? Or should the southern border stay "Laissez-Faire" and leave it up to the Capitalist Bourgeoisie to hire cheap labor and depress wages as they see fit for their personal private profits?

Or if said immigration is so socially valuable, why not just legalize it? Then, they wouldn't have to fear deportation... and they could demand higher wages... err, wait... then oranges would cost more at the grocery store... anyone supporting that??

 

[The Barbarian]

That's not what "amnesty" means.

That's not even relevant

Words mean things. Different words mean different things. They should be used as others use them.

Fact remains, immigration via Mexico from Latin America has been preferentially promoted, in the explicit verbatim name of "cheap labor", for a hundred years...

And Chinese and Irish and Jewish, and Italian, and so on. Businessmen have loved it, and racists and know-nothings have hated it, and eventually the immigrants and their children became Americans and took part in building America. They were attracted to what Ronald Reagan called a "shining city on a hill." Reagan thought that America was such a great thing that we'd turn people into Americans. He was right about that.

They all appear by day as "pro Labor" by closing America's front door to European immigration...

Don't see that. Even Trump was O.K. with European immigration. Perhaps because his own family were recent immigrants.

and then leave the back door wide open to Latino immigration

Yep. For the first hundred years, we didn't even have illegal aliens, because they were all welcome here. For lots of reasons, we need to have control of who comes here, but so far, every wave has raised all boats.

 

[grasping the after wind]

When did we have a mass amnesty for illegal aliens?

1986

A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR

 

[The Barbarian]

But it's "Judicial Watch" making the false claim, so that's not entirely surprising. What has them in a lather is not that more blacks than whites are getting vaccinated. They're upset because the state is trying to get blacks vaccinated at the same rates they are vaccinating whites.

For reasons we all understand.

Evidently not

They have a history. This isn't the first time they've gone down that path.

JW is spotlighting the shift, away from needy elderly who happen to be white, in phase two of their rolling vaccination program.

Like most white nationalists, they assume that if black people are treated equally with white people, that's a loss for white people. Their thinking is warped by their prejudices. A plan to bring the percentage of black people vaccinated up to the percentage of white people vaccinated, is not a plot against white people.

The data you uncritically dismiss are nevertheless the facts. There are lots of reasons why black people in the same risk groups as whites are not being vaccinated as often as whites are. It's not to place blame or to harm whites. It just needs attention. Do you suppose that if blacks were being vaccinated at higher rates than whites, that Judicial Watch would be good with it? We all know better, don't we?

 

[The Barbarian]

1986

A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR

So it was. Forgot that Reagan pulled it off. He certainly was in favor of open immigration, although he never got that implemented. From your source:

Peter Robinson, a former Reagan speechwriter, agrees. "It was in Ronald Reagan's bones -- it was part of his understanding of America -- that the country was fundamentally open to those who wanted to join us here."


Reagan said as much himself in a televised debate with Democratic presidential nominee Walter Mondale in 1984.


"I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally," he said.

He saw America as the "shining city on a hill" that would take in wretched immigrants and make Americans of them. Because we where that kind of a society. That never played with the faction of the right that now controls the republican party. They rather wish that part of Reaganism would just be forgotten.

Thanks for reminding us.

 

[Erik Nelson]

Like most white nationalists

demonization, ad hominem, emotional appeal

, they assume that if black people are treated equally with white people, that's a loss for white people.

asked & answered

not what's happening

elderly whites are being denied access in favor of minorities

in the elderly age 65+ risk group, whites are not being vaccinated at the same rate as blacks & Latinos

if that wasn't the case, if there were no white elderly being turned away, there'd be no issue -- the whole point, seemingly, is to play the race card to polarize & divide American society further, and to divide requires actual differences to enflame into divisions

A plan to bring the percentage of black people vaccinated up to the percentage of white people vaccinated, is not a plot against white people.

not what's happening

whatever happened in "phase one" is utterly irrelevant -- "health care professionals" on the "front lines" right now, at this critical moment, whomsoever they happened to be, received priority... so that they could help with "phase two" and the rest of society

If they happened to be disproportionately white, that's not relevant, they're the "frontline health care professionals" helping everyone else

not a conspiracy against colored people

 

[The Barbarian]

elderly whites are being denied access in favor of minorities

No, that's not what the article says. In fact, it says that minorities are being vaccinated at lower rates than whites. And the state is trying to address that injustice, which is what has white nationalists in a tizzy.

A plan to bring the percentage of black people vaccinated up to the percentage of white people vaccinated, is not a plot against white people.

not what's happening

You're wrong. That's exactly what the plan is. Which is why Judicial Watch is furious. If blacks are being vaccinated at the same rate as whites, they see that as wrong. And in Virginia, it's a serious problem:

In Virginia, for instance, Black people represent 19% of residents (and account for 21% of the state’s COVID-19 cases and 24% of its deaths), but Black Virginians have received only 12% of vaccines administered in the state so far.
White Americans Are Getting COVID-19 Vaccines at Higher Rates Than Minorities

And the state of Virginia is trying to fix it:
State health leaders are reassessing their vaccine roll-out plan in an effort to speed up the process. This comes as Virginia no longer sits near the bottom as compared to other state’s vaccination rates.
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“For every new 105,000 or 110,000 doses that are coming into the state, those will all get used up every week and then we’ll just have the corresponding second doses behind that,” Dr. Avula said.

So far mass vaccine clinics have been the primary method for inoculating people outside the healthcare setting. But Dr. Avula said while that works in more urban centers, our more rural areas are different. Not everyone can gather at a single location and local health districts are working on alternatives.

“So what is the plan? It’s to get vaccine distributed equitably to every area and have the local health districts work with their partners to really drive that strategy,” Dr. Avula said.
VDH adjusting strategy to get more people vaccinated sooner

It's not just in Virginia:
Revealed: study exposes racial disparity as whites vaccinated at higher rates than Black Americans
Associated Press analysis of 17 US states and two cities finds Black people inoculated at disproportionately low levels
Revealed: study exposes racial disparity as whites vaccinated at higher rates than Black Americans

in the elderly age 65+ risk group, whites are not being vaccinated at the same rate as blacks & Latinos

Presently, they are being vaccinated at a much higher rate than blacks. Likely so for Hispanics, as well.

if that wasn't the case, if there were no white elderly being turned away,

Show us that elderly whites are being turned away so blacks or Hispanics can be vaccinated. As you learned, the opposite is true; whites are being vaccinated at much higher rates than blacks.

The whole plan for Judicial Watch, seemingly, is to play the race card to polarize & divide American society further, and to divide requires actual differences to enflame into divisions.

 

[Nine of Spades]

In the last decade, the percentage of blue-collar voters who call themselves Republicans has grown by 12 points. At the same time, the number in that group identifying as Democrats has declined by 8 points. Among white-collar voters, the numbers have remained stable, with Democrats seeing a tiny increase and Republicans seeing a tiny drop.

Labor voters are trending from Democratic to Republican

https://democraticunderground.com/10142699899

50 years ago—even 30 years ago—the Democratic Party was the working man’s party. The Dems have now shifted away from their working class base and now constitute the party of wokeness, political correctness, and cancel culture.

 

[The Barbarian]

This is the most puzzling thing about the republican party. They abandoned the suburbs, the cites, the college-educated, the young, and ethnic minorities at a time when all of these groups are growing. And they embraced the older, high-school-or-less, white, rural voters at a time when these are declining.

For a long time now, the GOP had been the party most men followed. Trump still won men, but by a much reduced margin. This, plus his loss of support by white voters, completely erased any gains he made among working-class voters.

Yes, some of it was because of his record as president. A competent republican would almost certainly have done better. But it's not a good sign for the future GOP.

 

[iluvatar5150]

50 years ago—even 30 years ago—the Democratic Party was the working man’s party. The Dems have now shifted away from their working class base and now constitute the party of wokeness, political correctness, and cancel culture.

Yeah, that’s what they say, conveniently forgetting that it was largely the christian conservative right that, for decades, drove the culture war, with its assorted boycotts and censorship.

Given that Dems are still the party pushing for higher wages, greater worker protections, more infrastructure improvements, greater freedom to unionize, and improved access to healthcare and education, it would seem that they’re the party of both wokeness and workers.