Reports Protocol Revision Semi-Private

[DarylFawcett]

What about the person who reported the post?

Will that person also have access along with the reported person?

 

[synger]

Probably not. What is the point? If there's a violation, the reported post will be deleted or edited. If there isn't, it'll remain.

 

[3girls2dogs]

Doesn't matter. Folk who've become that desperate can't really be punished--there's nothing you can do that will hurt them further.

Desperate? It seems that this has taken a step toward the surreal. Why should one become desperate over being reported? I'm sorry, but I simply don't understand all the melodrama associated with this issue. When the reports were fully open, I got harrassed and sent nasty PMs all the time. It certainly didn't send me into a state of desperation.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

YAY to semi-private reports and YAY to the harassment rule.

Don't want to get banned? DON'T HARASS THE STAFF. It's a fairly easy rule.

Will the reporter still be anonymous to the reported one viewing the thread?

As for anyone who C&Ps a report somewhere else, that ought to result in an automatic ban. For how long, I don't know...

 

[Lindon Tinuviel]

Desperate? It seems that this has taken a step toward the surreal. Why should one become desperate over being reported? I'm sorry, but I simply don't understand all the melodrama associated with this issue. When the reports were fully open, I got harrassed and sent nasty PMs all the time. It certainly didn't send me into a state of desperation.

Possibly, you did. But did the people who were harassing you have the power to edit your posts? Delete them? Give you an FSB? Ban you outright?

Could you see what was posted about you, and could you see who posted it?

But... perhaps "desperate" is too strong a term. Substitute "frustrated", if that helps.

 

[Lindon Tinuviel]

YAY to semi-private reports and YAY to the harassment rule.

Don't want to get banned? DON'T HARASS THE STAFF. It's a fairly easy rule.

Will the reporter still be anonymous to the reported one viewing the thread?

As for anyone who C&Ps a report somewhere else, that ought to result in an automatic ban. For how long, I don't know...

Define "harass", please.

I've seen an awful lot of people screeching for automatic bans, especially when it comes to challenging Staff. While that may be those people's opinion, and they are certainly entitled to it, it speaks volumes <staff edit>.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Define "harass", please.

I've seen an awful lot of people screeching for automatic bans, especially when it comes to challenging Staff. While that may be your opinion, and you are certainly entitled to it, it speaks volumes about your character (not to mention your reasons for volunteering.)

Who are you to make assumptions as to why I volunteered to be on staff? I'm sorry you have such a poor opinion of staff, but you needn't press that opinion onto everyone who has an M after their name. Your statement above is a poorly veiled insult and I kindly ask that you edit it, as it is uncalled for.

 

[Lindon Tinuviel]

It wasn't a veiled anything, and I won't be retracting it. You said what you said, and I drew what I think are reasonable conclusions based on that.

FWIW, I don't have a poor opinion of Staff. I have a poor opinion of poor Staff.

 

[pdudgeon]

The reported member will be allowed to read and respond in the report thread. However, the report thread will remain private, and should not be divulged to other than the RT, in accordance with the site wide rules.

how can this part be enforced? there would need to be a means to disallow copy and paste from report threads, as well as making every poster in the thread (including staff) anonymous.

that's a lot of coding.

 

[RN4CHRIST]

I think this is an excellent compromise! Staff are people too and they shouldn't have to put up with harassment just because they have a letter beside their name! And it is wrong to paint all staff with a broad brush. They are volunteers, with real lives outside of this site. They are trying to do their best with what they have been given. They all are humans, and members in their own right. It would be good to remember that.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

It wasn't a veiled anything, and I won't be retracting it. You said what you said, and I drew what I think are reasonable conclusions based on that.

FWIW, I don't have a poor opinion of Staff. I have a poor opinion of poor Staff.

That's bull and you know it. Reasonable? Based on WHAT? You made an assumption about my character and about my reasons for becoming a mod. And given how you've posted in this thread, it's no stretch to see that your assumptions are negative. You don't know me, you don't have any clue as to why I volunteered to become staff but I will tell you this, even though I don't owe you the time of day: I did not volunteer to be on staff to abuse any powers like you suggest. I hope I never have to ban someone, and I've been to bat for several people who have been close to banning. I've stood up for both staff and members of this forum.

So you can take your baseless accusations elsewhere, LT. They don't belong here. If you have problems with poor mods, as you put it, take it up with those mods privately.

 

[RedTulipMom]

Thank you LeeD for listening to our concerns and being willing to give us an opportunity to see our own reports and comment in them!

 

[Lindon Tinuviel]

That's bull and you know it. Reasonable? Based on WHAT? You made an assumption about my character and about my reasons for becoming a mod. And given how you've posted in this thread, it's no stretch to see that your assumptions are negative. You don't know me, you don't have any clue as to why I volunteered to become staff but I will tell you this, even though I don't owe you the time of day: I did not volunteer to be on staff to abuse any powers like you suggest. I hope I never have to ban someone, and I've been to bat for several people who have been close to banning. I've stood up for both staff and members of this forum.

So you can take your baseless accusations elsewhere, LT. They don't belong here. If you have problems with poor mods, as you put it, take it up with those mods privately.

I will take it up with them publicly. Here, in fact. My "baseless accusations" will likewise remain.


I will grant, however, that I was not speaking specifically to you in my earlier post, but all the screeching AutobanAutobanAutoban people.

 

[Tonks]

how can this part be enforced? there would need to be a means to disallow copy and paste from report threads, as well as making every poster in the thread (including staff) anonymous.

that's a lot of coding.

If folks are found to be copying / pasting report threads to the main forums they should lose access to the report thread. No need to ruin it for everybody.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

I will take it up with them publicly. Here, in fact. My "baseless accusations" will likewise remain.


I will grant, however, that I was not speaking specifically to you in my earlier post, but all the screeching AutobanAutobanAutoban people.

and I call bull again. You specifically said that while I could have that opinion, it spoke volumes about MY character and MY reasons for volunteering.

And if you want to publicly flaunt breaking the rules, that's great with me. Lee has asked that people take up their issues privately, he's written it into the site rules. You wanna break them, great, but be prepared for the consequences if you choose to take that route.

 

[Lindon Tinuviel]

I think the C&P Report should be split off into an separate discussion thread. Either there was a misunderstanding, something in the system wasn't working for the good, or somebody was trolling.

No matter which case applies, it will quickly become apparent.

 

[Lindon Tinuviel]

and I call bull again. You specifically said that while I could have that opinion, it spoke volumes about MY character and MY reasons for volunteering. Don't backpedal now, LT.

I misspoke, and have already edited my earlier post to reflect. "You" is such a generic word.

 

[RadMan]

Define "harass", please.

I've seen an awful lot of people screeching for automatic bans, especially when it comes to challenging Staff. While that may be those people's opinion, and they are certainly entitled to it, it speaks volumes about their characters (not to mention their reasons for volunteering.)

I agree. Harassment needs a definition. Right now in some forums there is too much latitude. A mod could get a hair up their *blink* just because they don't like someone. Then because they belong to the "officers" even the supermods support their decision. Good 'ol Boy philosophy.

 

[Hentenza]

Let me remind everyone of the following rule:

Issues with staff decisions should be taken to the staff member, then the reconciliation team, period. Don't post them, don't PM them to others, don't take them to Lee.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

I misspoke, and have already edited my earlier post to reflect. "You" is such a generic word.

Yeah, except when you've quoted a specific post.

You're not fooling anyone LT.


Back on topic, I do agree that a definition of harassment needs to be put in place, so that there is no doubt and no wiggle room.