Repent... or not.

[ChristianCenturion]

One’s intestinal fortitude has it’s limits.

This trend of people assuming the role of teacher and preaching a false doctrine brings out the passionate side from a Christian.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to be ignorant of wickedness.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to pick and choose what scripture we honor.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to say some things God can’t help overcome.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to prioritize being popular with the world at the cost of disobedience to the Lord.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to say Jesus wants lukewarm believers.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to hide the lamp under the basket.



I don’t recall the passage which says "Jesus then preached Repent... or not, whatever you want to do is fine because God loves everything."

Now in the defense of some, there are errors in oppressing non-believers, going beyond the boundaries set by scripture and acting out of faith.

BTW - if some are taking this personally, relax - not everything is about you.

That being said: Replies, objections, agreements?

 

[HouseApe]

People understand the context of scripture differently, and therefore come to different conclusions about the value and meaning of different passages.

Indeed, millions come to millions of different conclusions. Only one, or none, can be correct.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

People understand the context of scripture differently, and therefore come to different conclusions about the value and meaning of different passages.

Indeed, millions come to millions of different conclusions. Only one, or none, can be correct.

And thus your 'understanding' or limit of has lead you to your belief in Atheism.
Repenting is a Judeo/Christian concept, it would be improper of me to expect non-believers to fully understand.

 

[Blackmarch]

One’s intestinal fortitude has it’s limits.

This trend of people assuming the role of teacher and preaching a false doctrine brings out the passionate side from a Christian.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to be ignorant of wickedness.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to pick and choose what scripture we honor.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to say some things God can’t help overcome.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to prioritize being popular with the world at the cost of disobedience to the Lord.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to say Jesus wants lukewarm believers.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to hide the lamp under the basket.



I don’t recall the passage which says "Jesus then preached Repent... or not, whatever you want to do is fine because God loves everything."

Now in the defense of some, there are errors in oppressing non-believers, going beyond the boundaries set by scripture and acting out of faith.

BTW - if some are taking this personally, relax - not everything is about you.

That being said: Replies, objections, agreements?

Wish more of Christianity could understand that... and then DO it.

 

[Zaac]

One’s intestinal fortitude has it’s limits.

This trend of people assuming the role of teacher and preaching a false doctrine brings out the passionate side from a Christian.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to be ignorant of wickedness.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to pick and choose what scripture we honor.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to say some things God can’t help overcome.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to prioritize being popular with the world at the cost of disobedience to the Lord.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to say Jesus wants lukewarm believers.

I don’t recall it being Gospel to hide the lamp under the basket.



I don’t recall the passage which says "Jesus then preached Repent... or not, whatever you want to do is fine because God loves everything."

Now in the defense of some, there are errors in oppressing non-believers, going beyond the boundaries set by scripture and acting out of faith.

BTW - if some are taking this personally, relax - not everything is about you.

That being said: Replies, objections, agreements?

Alright now. Go on and preach!! Let's have church this morning.

 

[HouseApe]

And thus your 'understanding' or limit of has lead you to your belief in Atheism.
Repenting is a Judeo/Christian concept, it would be improper of me to expect non-believers to fully understand.

Nah, it really doesn't take a genius to get the whole concept.

 

[Blackmarch]

Nah, it really doesn't take a genius to get the whole concept.

Nope it doesn't, but it makes a great man that can do it.
... Easier said than done and that whole shpiel...

Anyways, onwards!

 

[ScottishJohn]

I think it is important to remember that Jesus called us to repent, but left us to choose whether or not to obey: I do believe God loves everyone. This does not change the fact that those who disobey will be judged when Christ comes again.

Also I think it is very easy to accuse people of preaching false doctrine when they post something that disagrees with what we believe. If after prayer and further study of scripture one still believes what is being preached to be wrong, then, if possible, say so, enter into a discussion with that person. However it is always possible that Christ is using someone to challenge a wrong belief that we hold, and we must remain open to this. Again it comes down to prayer and studying scripture with an open heart.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

I think it is important to remember that Jesus called us to repent, but left us to choose whether or not to obey: I do believe God loves everyone. This does not change the fact that those who disobey will be judged when Christ comes again.

Also I think it is very easy to accuse people of preaching false doctrine when they post something that disagrees with what we believe. If after prayer and further study of scripture one still believes what is being preached to be wrong, then, if possible, say so, enter into a discussion with that person. However it is always possible that Christ is using someone to challenge a wrong belief that we hold, and we must remain open to this. Again it comes down to prayer and studying scripture with an open heart.

I agree.
I would also add that repenting is not a milestone for most, but a path.

 

[Phred]

it would be improper of me to expect non-believers to fully understand.

Of course. The standard retort. "You can't understand, it hasn't been revealed to you." What I don't understand is why all those to whom it's been "revealed" don't have the same revelation? One God, one truth, right? There are over 30,000 sects who call themselves Christian. Only one has it right? That's assuming you've already dismissed any faith that isn't Christian.

There's a huge hole in your conceit. But it would be improper of me to expect believers to fully understand.

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[ChristianCenturion]

Of course. The standard retort. "You can't understand, it hasn't been revealed to you." What I don't understand is why all those to whom it's been "revealed" don't have the same revelation? One God, one truth, right? There are over 30,000 sects who call themselves Christian. Only one has it right? That's assuming you've already dismissed any faith that isn't Christian.

There's a huge hole in your conceit. But it would be improper of me to expect believers to fully understand.

It doesn't help 'that' argument when some 'claim' that they adequately understand something and then ask questions (rhetorical or not) or make statements that contradict the truth.
Your objections only show that you do not understand the Body or the Church composition.

 

[Phred]

It doesn't help 'that' argument when some 'claim' that they adequately understand something and then ask questions (rhetorical or not) or make statements that contradict the truth.
Your objections only show that you do not understand the Body or the Church composition.

And yours show you can't consider a world without them. Doesn't make me wrong, or unable to understand. That's a false conceit on your part.

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[ChristianCenturion]

And yours show you can't consider a world without them. Doesn't make me wrong, or unable to understand. That's a false conceit on your part.

Fortunately, I don't have to defend against your assertions nor nursemaid my statement - The beauty and the power of the Truth.

 

[Phred]

Fortunately, I don't have to defend against your assertions nor nursemaid my statement - The beauty and the power of the Truth.

I told you that you couldn't understand.

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[ASLER86]

Of course. The standard retort. "You can't understand, it hasn't been revealed to you." What I don't understand is why all those to whom it's been "revealed" don't have the same revelation? One God, one truth, right? There are over 30,000 sects who call themselves Christian. Only one has it right? That's assuming you've already dismissed any faith that isn't Christian.

There's a huge hole in your conceit. But it would be improper of me to expect believers to fully understand.

Interesting observation but, if you look at the big picture...

What is more important, Christ or dogma?

Christians may disagree over dogma or the "proper" ways to do things, but isn't what unites us is our common belief in Christ?

 

[Westvleteren]

Interesting observation but, if you look at the big picture...

What is more important, Christ or dogma?

Christians may disagree over dogma or the "proper" ways to do things, but isn't what unites us is our common belief in Christ?

Which Christ?

 

[Thirst_For_Knowledge]

It doesn't help 'that' argument when some 'claim' that they adequately understand something and then ask questions (rhetorical or not) or make statements that contradict the truth.
Your objections only show that you do not understand the Body or the Church composition.

All too often, you simply say that if people don't see things the way you do, then they just must not understand that which you are commenting on.

I guess this is an easy way to go through life, but sheesh, can you really be that naive?

 

[ChristianCenturion]

All too often, you simply say that if people don't see things the way you do, then they just must not understand that which you are commenting on.

I guess this is an easy way to go through life, but sheesh, can you really be that naive?

I really could care less if people agree with me - any knowledge, wisdom, truth or anything good that I have or do comes from God and not me.

But if you want an explanation, search the Bible for "do not understand" and you will see that what I say is scripturally sound and the reasoning for the not understanding is given.

 

[Thirst_For_Knowledge]

I really could care less if people agree with me - any knowledge, wisdom, truth or anything good that I have or do comes from God and not me.

But if you want an explanation, search the Bible for "do not understand" and you will see that what I say is scripturally sound and the reasoning for the not understanding is given.

Mmhmm. And on the same note, I could say that you just do not understand reality. You put faith in fairy tales because you cannot understand the reality that you live in or the world around you.

Now wouldn't that be naive and condescending of me?

But of course, I'm sure you don't understand the difference. Err, the lack of difference.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

Mmhmm. And on the same note, I could say that you just do not understand reality. You put faith in fairy tales because you cannot understand the reality that you live in or the world around you.

Now wouldn't that be naive and condescending of me?

But of course, I'm sure you don't understand the difference. Err, the lack of difference.

Sooo... which is more ridiculous? You arguing against something that allegedly doesn't exist or you arguing to someone that can't grasp reality?
I can't reason your statement with logic.